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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Mar 15, 2010 21:36:53 GMT 12
Same with 2ks 8 Sprintcars entered 5 turn up.
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Post by jmac on Mar 16, 2010 8:27:08 GMT 12
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Post by Crank on Mar 16, 2010 9:32:48 GMT 12
i was a spectator at the meeting, and counted 12 sprinters in 1st qualifying and 11 in 2nd qualifying, there certainly was not 29 as some1 earlier announced. the roller was out after the first race and stayed out on the infield during the remainder of the night, coming onto roll the track in between races to roll the rutts...
Just when i thought things at BP couldn't get any worse, up steps the commentator, announcing how much track prep is happening- "they will be into it tomorrow (Sunday) morning and will work from dusk to dawn every day until next Saturday" i couldn't believe what i was hearing....wheres this guy getting his info from..or is it a case of who's he trying to fool...
sprint car action was good, its a shame it wasn't all in for 3 heats then a final or points tally as the last all in final was a excellent spectacle, great battle with current and former national champs making up the podium.
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Mar 16, 2010 11:29:34 GMT 12
Where commentators are concerend im sure they are payed to do a job and promote something, regardless of fact or fiction they have to shine a positive light on what ever it is, in this case the baypark speedway facility as a whole.
I for 1 have voted with my wallet and now attend other tracks after events as prestigeous as this promising and not delivering (in my eyes as a spectator only).
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Post by jimmyj on Mar 16, 2010 17:48:21 GMT 12
maybe you lot are all missing the obvious thing her ,/the BAYPARK TRACK IS CONSISTANTLY CRAP thats right CRAP these guys spend thousands of dollars and go to meeting down there and come home quite often with repair bills sometimes many thousands . (WHY BOTHER) just for all the terrace racers waiting for a big accident to happen, A note to PERCY if you look at NZ MIDGET CHAMPS you will see it is not the format at fault because the main attrition rate was not caused by accidents (apart from alach WHICH I PREDICTED)it was either flat tires or mechanical failure . BEST WAY TO RUN CHAMPS rather than 1 race deal,..//  |
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Post by Axe-Twist on Mar 16, 2010 18:00:17 GMT 12
with the place like it is you would think they would have the perfect track.. pits are one of a kind just aweosme. food and stuff mint as, officals are quick to get to crashs, and helpfull.seating well everyone knows thats tops. if they got the track right it would be the best speedway place in newzealand.
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Post by strx7 on Mar 16, 2010 20:01:28 GMT 12
of the 15 meetings run at baypark this year, the track has been rough at alot of them, crap at a couple, and great at a handful. How many other tracks in NZ run Terracotta clay like baypark?  |
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Post by strx7 on Mar 16, 2010 20:03:36 GMT 12
maybe you lot are all missing the obvious thing her ,/the BAYPARK TRACK IS CONSISTANTLY CRAP thats right CRAP The only thing that is starting to become consistantly crap is your attitude. I'm sure I'm not the only one gettign sick of the sh1t you keep dribbling out. Have you ever Raced at baypark? (or anywhere else for that matter?) Have you had anything to do with track prep before? ? |
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Post by jimmyj on Mar 16, 2010 20:17:49 GMT 12
Yes to 1st question ,no to track prep,only baypark use terracotta now,
So if i dribble sh1t as you say why does shane Mc Intyre contract to huntly ,if baypark could be good as much it is rough it would be the best track in NZ,.
Known fact you will not get terracota clay to be good over a season,S
So STRX7 you may not like what you read but get over it that is why you do not get the crowds or the racin that we get in auckland,
Smell the roses get over yourselves down there,.
Shane McIntyres own words ,The track more often than not is to rough.
Before rubbishing me look around
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Post by phoenixdaz on Mar 16, 2010 21:34:13 GMT 12
Strx7, bit rough to single out one person saying the track has been consistently rough when there are two threads full of people agreeing...
You may well have been to every event this season and know different, all I know is that the one event that I watched held at Stratford the track looked primo.
From the vids of Baypark I have seen this year it does look very rough. I don't know what needs to be done to fix the track to keep it smooth all night, but someone needs to do something.
I agree with watcher (well kind of, the Springs is my favourite track), if Baypark got the track good for 80% of the season rather than the reverse it would be one of the best tracks in NZ.
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Post by Steve the Maori on Mar 16, 2010 22:11:10 GMT 12
Yes to 1st question ,no to track prep,only baypark use terracotta now, So if i dribble sh1t as you say why does shane Mc Intyre contract to huntly ,if baypark could be good as much it is rough it would be the best track in NZ,. Known fact you will not get terracota clay to be good over a season,S So STRX7 you may not like what you read but get over it that is why you do not get the crowds or the racin that we get in auckland, Smell the roses get over yourselves down there,. Shane McIntyres own words ,The track more often than not is to rough. Before rubbishing me look around Hey just in respect to the Why does Shane McIntyre contract to Huntly, Shane spoke to the promotion of Baypark Speedway prior to the season starting discussing the Super Saloon Series. As Willie couldn't or possibly wouldn't allow Shane to get exemptions to race at other tracks the best decision for him was to contract at a track that would allow him to do so. This may have been the wake up call for promotion as Brent Emerson and other drivers were told they would be given permission to race. Maybe a bit late for Shane to change back after signing with Huntly. As for your known fact about Terracotta, One of the problems with Bayparks Terracotta surface is that the Terracotta has over time leeched out a number of trace elements. This has changed the pH in the clay and now requires the use of a number of different additives in the attempt to bring it back to how it was 8 seasons ago. Another big reason for the failure of Bayparks track of course can go down to preparation, or lack of. Something else to consider is the proximity to the estuary and the effect to the water table. On turns 2 and 3 the track is constantly over sprayed by the infield sprinklers which also plays into the bumps in the track. Since the track opened we have seen some extremely fast and exciting racing in all classes, but have also seen a number of changes such as no longer using the Saloons for wheel packing, big difference between 650kg each of 15-20 Sprint cars and 1200kg's of 25-30 Saloons. The previous person in charge of track preparation who sadly passed away Ross Decke was paid $1500 per meeting to prepare the track, Ross was told what classes were running and prepared the track accordingly. Ross had control of what he did and produced a very good track each week. The person preparing the track now is paid wages and what he does to the track is completely controlled by the current Promoter. The tracks not the best and the promoter should possibly be held accountable for it but as I've written, there are a number of other factors that play into it. Sometimes we have to take what we're given, that or stand up and demand a change what ever that change would be. Just in response to what you say about why Auckland gets the crowds and racing, every track can claim to have great racing The Springs and Baypark included. Auckland has 1/4 of the entire population of New Zealand and you get good crowds. You should, look at the stats. I'll tell you what you don't have in Auckland other then the NZ/Nth Isl Sprintcar champ. The Major of Tauranga and the City Council has clearly stated in the city plan that Baypark is the HOME of speedway in Tauranga, the council has a few issues but DON'T want Speedway at BaypARK to go. I have an email from Stuart Crosby expressing this. The resource consent allows Baypark to run up to 20 meetings per year. Your council wants to shut you down.Every Auckland driver/crew/supporter is most welcome to join us at Baypark should any issues arise with your City Council. I hope it doesn't and signed the online petition in support. Rather then get into a fight over what great things we have/don't have at Baypark, The Springs or where ever, why don't you focus your efforts on trying to save your own backyard, I'll tell you now I'll support you as would every other person on this board even STRX7. Cheers Steve |
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Post by SuperHarry on Mar 16, 2010 23:44:32 GMT 12
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Post by strx7 on Mar 17, 2010 6:18:12 GMT 12
population of Tauranga? 118,000, people at baypark for this meeting? 2200.
Population of auckland 1,300,000. Crowd numbers at the springs for this meeting to have had the same percentage based on population is 24,000.
can the springs even hold 24,000 spectators?
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Post by steeldog on Mar 17, 2010 8:02:13 GMT 12
wow steve! why don't you tell us what you really think (know). ;D
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Post by Steve the Maori on Mar 17, 2010 8:15:11 GMT 12
wow steve! why don't you tell us what you really think (know). ;D lol I'll PM u later! |
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Post by nomad on Mar 17, 2010 10:27:10 GMT 12
can the springs even hold 24,000 spectators? Western Springs can hold in excess of 24000 when running in speedway mode. During the glory days of the late 70s and early 80s,that figure was matched or surpassed more than once when the Yanks were in town. The Boxing Day show this season would have been close to giving 15000 a decent nudge....while thats obviously a guestimate,its made with 35 years of attendence at the Springs as a foundation. Trying to compare the merits of Western Springs over Baypark or vice versa,is an exercise in stupidity promoted by morons. As evidenced by his numerous contributions,JJ is a promoter without peer. |
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Post by jimmyj on Mar 17, 2010 16:44:02 GMT 12
Steve,Thanks for that info very interesting reading, We found in auckland when the track was consistantly bad we were not getting anywhere the crowds that we are getting now because the racing is so much better. I fully realise about the number games sure ompopulation etc,we have been having excess of25ooo people regularly, All i was trying to say Bay Park i think if the track was not as bad as it is you would get far more people attending (better for everyone) What i object to is people such as strx7 saying to be about talking crap and in his words sh1t because you know and most people in speedway Know Bay park has major track issues ,What i said about Shane was what he told us also huntly was holding nz champs. Thanks , |
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Post by jimmyj on Mar 17, 2010 16:49:53 GMT 12
A little note for HYDROTON we all know Brent and the rest who run the super series were going maybe defect,along wiyh track issues ,
After Shane went it would not be in Willy,s interest for the rest to go so all got reprieve
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