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Post by penman on Feb 9, 2011 14:52:22 GMT 12
Yes, Higgy is one - a total of 8 on my list at the moment. Just can't remember them all off-hand, so will go through my list at home tonight and list them all at once. The list has come from an "official" source, so is accurate. I await with bated breath |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 15:44:16 GMT 12
can you pls give us the details of the protest that was made by a team about a race that they wern't in that marty said happened, I have asked him to do so but he hasn't.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2011 15:48:06 GMT 12
can you pls give us the details of the protest that was made by a team about a race that they wern't in that marty said happened, I have asked him to do so but he hasn't. Don't think I can help you with that one Jammer. If Marty wants to give a little info I can check it out - must say I'm interested to hear about it myself, especially since it's happened before as well.... |
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Post by busterbell on Feb 9, 2011 16:04:58 GMT 12
the main issue really is that teams and drivers got pinged apart from the Panthers incidents To say the rules are controversial nearly every year( from Busterbell) and the Panthers get away with it.... that is not right at all, agree mostly with everything you have said marty, but dont understand your above sentences which somewhat contradict one another. please explain. radical buster ;D  |
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Post by The Godfather on Feb 9, 2011 17:48:19 GMT 12
the main issue really is that teams and drivers got pinged apart from the Panthers incidents To say the rules are controversial nearly every year( from Busterbell) and the Panthers get away with it.... that is not right at all, agree mostly with everything you have said marty, but dont understand your above sentences which somewhat contradict one another. please explain. radical buster ;D Allow me Buster Busters main issue really is that teams and drivers got pinged apart from the Panthers incidents, however..... To say the rules are controversial nearly every year( from Busterbell) and the Panthers get away with it.... that is not right at all. Just needed a few punctuation marks and some journalistic licence ;D |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 9, 2011 18:32:45 GMT 12
It was 1 or 2 in the morning, and I did not have my glasses on.
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Post by penman on Feb 9, 2011 18:37:07 GMT 12
It was 1 or 2 in the morning, and I did not have my glasses on. Sounds like a referee's excuse! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2011 18:38:05 GMT 12
2011 relegations and exclusions;
In some cases I don't know what position the car was relegated or DQ'd from. Where I do know, I have said. Where I know, I have also stated the reason for the stated action.
The refs took into account the conditions, especially on the first night, and took note of the direction wheels were turned and where a driver was genuinely trying to stop and/or get back onto the racing surface, or not, as the case maybe.
After many races, drivers and/or managers were warned for situations such as where a car crossed the pole line but no advantage was gained. Virtually every team was spoken to at some stage of the weekend, and people were called up after 11 of the 18 races.
FRIDAY NIGHT
Race 2; Team GB vs Christchurch
1/ 04gb Craig Finnikin relegated from 1st to 3rd for crossing the pole line entering turn 1, when passing, during the race
Race 4; Hawkes Bay vs Mustangs
2/ 33b Gary Foley DQ'd for reversing against the traffic flow
Race 5; Kihikihi vs Nelson
3/ 25k Keven Roberts removed from track under red light from pole line incident, exiting back onto track and walling traffic
SATURDAY NIGHT
2nd Minor Semi; Waikato vs Team GB
4/ 94h Kerry Remant was relegated from 4th to 5th
1st Major Semi; Nelson vs Stratford
5/ 83n Brett Nicholls relegated from 1st to 5th for passing over the pole line entering turn 1 on the first lap - the driver admitted the indiscretion to SNZ officials which should, in my opinion, end speculation by angered fans that saw it differently and as some sort of conspiracy.
6/ Also in the same race 43s Steve Guilford was excluded from the results (there was some confusion as to whether it was 43s or 45s Chris Flett that was excluded, but as Flett DNF'd I'm assuming it was Guilford)
Race for 5th & 6th; Team GB vs Wanganui
7/ 01gb Frankie Wainman Jnr DQ'd for putting a V car up the wall under a red light
Race for 3rd & 4th; Nelson vs Rotorua
8/ 81n Brendan Higgins DQ'd for attacking 99r Kyle Fraser in the wrong direction
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Post by sandy898 on Feb 9, 2011 18:45:12 GMT 12
i doubt it was the 45car as that was the car my brother drove and smashed his leg in trying to get higgy.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 18:47:55 GMT 12
It was 1 or 2 in the morning, and I did not have my glasses on. SOOooo what Marty means is something like "Sorry Ramjam, when I wrote [rubbish it is you that seems to know nothing Jam it was extremely late at night and I didn't have my glasses on. It would seem you were right and you do know a few things, Very sorry Ramjam" Then I would write thats ok Marty, apology accepted. |
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Post by busterbell on Feb 9, 2011 19:12:50 GMT 12
is # 8 the reason 3rd and 4th was in doubt during the presentations??
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Post by penman on Feb 9, 2011 19:17:58 GMT 12
2011 relegations and exclusions;In some cases I don't know what position the car was relegated or DQ'd from. Where I do know, I have said. Where I know, I have also stated the reason for the stated action. The refs took into account the conditions, especially on the first night, and took note of the direction wheels were turned and where a driver was genuinely trying to stop and/or get back onto the racing surface, or not, as the case maybe. After many races, drivers and/or managers were warned for situations such as where a car crossed the pole line but no advantage was gained. Virtually every team was spoken to at some stage of the weekend, and people were called up after 11 of the 18 races. FRIDAY NIGHTRace 2; Team GB vs Christchurch1/ 04gb Craig Finnikin relegated from 1st to 3rd for crossing the pole line entering turn 1, when passing, during the race Race 4; Hawkes Bay vs Mustangs2/ 33b Gary Foley DQ'd for reversing against the traffic flow Race 5; Kihikihi vs Nelson3/ 25k Keven Roberts removed from track under red light from pole line incident, exiting back onto track and walling traffic SATURDAY NIGHT2nd Minor Semi; Waikato vs Team GB4/ 94h Kerry Remant was relegated from 4th to 5th 1st Major Semi; Nelson vs Stratford5/ 83n Brett Nicholls relegated from 1st to 5th for passing over the pole line entering turn 1 on the first lap - the driver admitted the indiscretion to SNZ officials which should, in my opinion, end speculation by angered fans that saw it differently and as some sort of conspiracy. 6/ Also in the same race 43s Steve Guilford was excluded from the results (there was some confusion as to whether it was 43s or 45s Chris Flett that was excluded, but as Flett DNF'd I'm assuming it was Guilford) Race for 5th & 6th; Team GB vs Wanganui7/ 01gb Frankie Wainman Jnr DQ'd for putting a V car up the wall under a red light Race for 3rd & 4th; Nelson vs Rotorua8/ 81n Brendan Higgins DQ'd for attacking 99r Kyle Fraser in the wrong direction Number 8 - Higgins excluded for the incident with Horse. Was this when Horse was pushed in the Scott Hewson/Dale Ewers tangle of cars? |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2011 19:20:44 GMT 12
is # 8 the reason 3rd and 4th was in doubt during the presentations?? There was another issue in the race which ultimately came to nothing @ penman, the #8 incident was in T2 and did not involve Horse (was with Kyle Fraser, as above) |
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Post by penman on Feb 9, 2011 19:30:13 GMT 12
is # 8 the reason 3rd and 4th was in doubt during the presentations?? There was another issue in the race which came to nothing @ penman, the #8 incident was in T2 and did not involve Horse Roger that - my error |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 9, 2011 19:35:44 GMT 12
It was 1 or 2 in the morning, and I did not have my glasses on. SOOooo what Marty means is something like "Sorry Ramjam, when I wrote [rubbish it is you that seems to know nothing Jam it was extremely late at night and I didn't have my glasses on. It would seem you were right and you do know a few things, Very sorry Ramjam" Then I would write thats ok Marty, apology accepted. I hate Shrinks lol there are some things you are not aware of here is not the place I may pm you |
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Post by porry41 on Feb 9, 2011 19:52:01 GMT 12
where did you disapear to marty .there one minite then disapeared was going to have a chat to ya ..   ;D |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 9, 2011 20:16:31 GMT 12
So it's okay to raise an issue, make an allegation, but not to explain or back it up? No wonder Rammers gets on his high horse sometimes haha
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Post by King James on Feb 9, 2011 20:28:52 GMT 12
Thanks for posting all that up Barry. All that is good to know for spectators. It should be posted with all race results.
One reason I sometimes stay queit on this forum is cos there is too much pregnant doging and slagging about great drivers and meetings. Justice ends up taking care of itself.
Anyway good to know and great meeting.
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Post by kessa on Feb 9, 2011 22:57:23 GMT 12
Thanks heaps Barry its great to know the reasoning behind these things. Oh and next time you are called up to make the biggest announcement of the night SHOUT IT, because when you came on and the crowd heard "drama" they just got louder and you got drowned out ;D.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 10, 2011 7:28:40 GMT 12
Thanks heaps Barry its great to know the reasoning behind these things. Oh and next time you are called up to make the biggest announcement of the night SHOUT IT, because when you came on and the crowd heard "drama" they just got louder and you got drowned out ;D. IT'S RUDE TO SHOUT!!! Yes, it did get a bit noisey out there. I wasn't supposed to be on the mic with Russell at all, but once THAT news came through it was easier to jump on and do it myself than try and explain it all to Rusty - AND I hoped Paul H would hear and alert the Speedbox viewers as well, as it'd take too long to type all that into a text and send it upstairs to him ;D |
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