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Post by Yard on Apr 1, 2014 15:49:18 GMT 12
cAN anyone confirm if the 24c car raced as 9c at the Battle of the stocks in the weekend? If so the lap times look impressive - pretty close to the pace,and some good results prior to the bad luck with the roll over. Be good to hear from any eye witnesses on how they thought this trial motor went in a feild of big guns.    photos from the woodford glen facebook page www.facebook.com/WoodfordGlenHopefully we can hear some feedback from the team on how they are finding the motor - looked real strong off turn 4 in the footage of racing I did see. Hopefully with the King of the Coast coming up we might see a couple of trial motors at this event selling the concept. Yes the 9c dose have the trial motor in it. |
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Post by lms on Apr 2, 2014 18:50:06 GMT 12
Hopefully we can hear some feedback from the team on how they are finding the motor - looked real strong off turn 4 in the footage of racing I did see. We are pretty happy with the performance of the car so far. Only trouble that we are having is with over heating but this is more due to the car/radiator/cooling system rather than the motor itself. We did decide to keep running the car for longer periods of time than you would normally do with this heating issue, as we were trying our best to finish races for our partner at the Battle of the Stocks. Hopefully the motor hasn't sustained serious damage but time will tell. Lucky it's a relatively cheap and easy process to get another if necessary. We will definitely be campaigning this car for a full season in the 2014/2015 season. One positive to take from the Battle of the Stocks, is that the motor can handle a pretty decent rollover and have no dramas being fired up again for the next race ie no broken mounting points, no movement of the distributor etc.
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Post by brendanlucas on May 17, 2014 20:33:43 GMT 12
Firstly, my own car. Not much to talk about regarding satisfying results on the track, however a ton of work has been done & very valuable information we now own that will put us in good shape to do the year ahead. It really wasn’t until Christmas just been that I was even able to get into the shed to look at my car due to very long work hours. I freed myself from that problem & have been juggling getting the car ready along with a couple of other projects that have needed my attention. The car always struggled for rear weight even when it had the Toyota, & putting the Chev in only made things worse. To overcome that issue, I wanted to really soften up the rear end, which required some mods. The other guys running the 602’s were finding there gearboxes were barely up to scratch with the high torque from the Chevy’s, so I opted to put in a powerglide auto, which are renown for being able to cope with lots of torque. The down side of the powerglide is its reputation for eating up its intestines on the start line, particularly when not using the torque convertor as we are. Lots of work has gone into this part of the car, in fact the gear selector/clutch I have made 4 times from scratch before getting to a stage I am happy with. I wanted to put the time into the powerglide to hopefully come up with a sound option for the 602 package. The steering in the car I was never particularly happy with, given the steering box had packed up not long after I took ownership & the fact it was actually touching my knee in my seated position, I then removed the steering box & replaced it with a heavy duty rack & pinion which has proved quite successful, very happy with that. I have also put a lot of time into the trailer, and the general asphetics. We started testing the car about 6 weeks back at Harrisville, didn’t have a good run with the back rotors in bad shape, they had buckled & tried to glue themselves onto the axle. An overhaul of the rear brakes was then needed, & completed. Next outing we got more then a few laps in & found an annoying engine miss-fire which had us chasing our tails, & not spending time dialing the cars handling in, although I though apart from it being lots firmer in the rear then I wanted, we could actually turn the car with the accelerator, but it was way too firm. We thought we had found the miss-fire, but it seems we hadn’t. I should also mention, the engine in my car, was the same engine Paul Demanser had used for the year he was involved in the trial. We did put the car on the same dyno the 511 car had been on, & found my engine to be about 20 horsepower down on the 511 car, which we considered ‘not unexpected’ concidering this engine had done quite a bit of work with Paul. Off to our first race meeting, the East Coast Champs over at Hawkes Bay. We needed to be gone from Palmy in order to make green sheeting, & it was ~ midday that we realized the miss=fire hadn’t gone away. We realized we had a faulty (brand new) fuel regulator that was returning almost all of the fuel to the tank without sufficient fuel to keep the engine happy in cornering. There were several other dramas going on at the same time, but we ultimately loaded up & off to the Bay, which we shouldn’t have. We went through greensheeting OK, but there were several fires to put under control before getting out. One thing I done in the shed when I was playing around with the suspension, was to soften the rear end. I did this by altering the fulcrum points on the leaf spring that acted as springing for both rear tyres, as well as an anti sway device. I hadn’t figured on the fact as the fulcrum points were altered to soften the spring, I was creating more of a geometric bind with an arguemeny going on between the panhard bar & the leaf spring fulcrum points that in the position I had it, the car basically handled about as good as my flat deck truck going down a steep gravell drive with nothing on the back – ugly. Greenflag dropped in the first superstock race, & the first time I had actually driven on the Meannee surface, & immediately I knew the car was taking me for a ride & not the other way around. I think I got about 6 laps of wobbling in when entering the pit turn I got out of shape & with the accidental assistance of one of the up & coming locals I nose dived into the wall, & with the car being left weighted, it fell over just like that. The unfortunate part of this, I got out of the car & wasn’t feeling that great. We ended up going home early due to the increasing pain & later that night when I went & checked things out, the doctors told me I had spinal compression with 2 fractured vertebrae. Anyway, that gave me a bit of time to think about what went wrong, & the car since has had quite a birthday including putting stops in to prevent the rear end from hitting the bottom of the seat. In spite of this we setback, the ducks are lined up fairly well for a good full year of racing this coming year with hopefully our second car also being ready, now we have time to get things going. I must also add, there are a number of people that I owe quite a debt of gratitude to for there help. Michael Gray for the Graphix & Cam Hurley for his fantastic Sign work I would particularly like to thank, but there have been a number of people that have been very helpful. Thankyou, BL  |
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Post by 95c on Dec 22, 2014 12:16:19 GMT 12
so when do snz give the nod or not to these engines, so keen to get one
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Post by SKDKNG on Apr 19, 2015 23:52:52 GMT 12
Thought I might post my part of the submission to SNZ that Brendan Lucas has just recently done to try make these engines a permanent thing.. Really rapt with how this motor goes, think it will be real good option for the class if it's approved. Specs... Untouched block with quick fuel 4 barrel mechanical secondary carb. 2" spacer and 3" K&N filter. Mallory Comp 9000 ignition (no vac advance used) a MSD 6al and a factory rx7 Bosch coil for spark.. Factory replacement BPR6EFS NGK spark plugs and MSD leads. 6000rpm rev limiter chip. Blocked off factory mechanical pump mount with a Carter electric fuel pump, pumping Gull 98 gas through a Holley reg. Penrite Racing 15w-50 full synthetic oil with external oil filter and Moroso accusump. Factory water pump, power steer, alt and viscous fan all mounted off the front. Factory style early model corvette flex plate with tilton triple plate clutch hanging off the rear. Small port mild steel 4-1 headers flowing through short 3" resonators. All up around 8k installed from memory after using second hand parts from a old Chev 248i motor. All ready had a Chev motor plate. We have run 23 meetings and 3 practice days. It is generally around .5 of sec off the fastest cars of each track. Replace spark plugs once a season, oil and filter at end of each season. Neither show signs of ill running. Never had it hot, ran it to 240 with a mud caked rad but wasn't for long.. Generally runs around the 210 mark. Uses about 18 litres of gas on the average 3 heat nite. We have not yet installed a cam button. Played with fuel types, exhaust types, jetting, plug gapping, vac advance and rev limits on the dyno and couldn't find any significant gains. A good flowing exhaust definitely makes a these engines breath easier. Issues.. We persisted with the stock distributer for as long as we could but 2x caps and 3x rotors were enough.. They worked fine when they did but couldn't take the knocks at all.. Tried to secure them by wiring, cable tying and even a plate on top of the cap itself but think it's more the rotor inside moving about.. Didn't really notice any power gain once changed over to current dizzy. The needle style roller input shaft bearings don't take the hits or hard life, after replacing 2 collapsed bearing machined a brass solid bearing and haven't had any clutch issues since. Ran with a broken rev chip and over revved the engine (saw about 8-9k on the incar camera on a spin across the wet infield) It pushed 2 of the pushrods clean out and into the rocker covers and one of the rockers off its pedestals.. Ran two heats with a strange miss!! Checked for damage to rockers and pushrods but luckily none, reinstalled and motor has run 10+ meetings since without a prob. Total spend on damage/ maintenance engine wise after 23 meetings over 2 seasons would be under 2k, we generally just check the water/ oil before the meeting and check the carb/ timing twice a season. Overview.. This engine has been vital in our teams very short racing career as it has been basically issue/ maintenance free and has allowed us as a very very low budget (around 15k a year total) to not only race but to race competitively in NZs premiere class.. We have been able to focus on setup and meet to meet repairs whilst the engine side of things just ticks along. We only get positive feedback on the trial engine, from the public and competitors from various other classes each meeting, and a lot are in awe of what we have been achieving lap wise with the engine price tag we have. We believe it is a very important tool for the class to introduce new blood and keep the top end teams on their toes.  |
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Post by The Observer on Apr 20, 2015 21:03:16 GMT 12
Awesome post, great to hear some really positive feedback.
What has been the feedback from other superstock competitors? I think this is a great idea as a cheap option to get running in superstocks, and as pointed out the engine is there abouts, but not a race winner with a full field of superstocks.
However I wonder if there is wide spread support from the other superstock competitors?I would hope so.
Not a big threat, but good to help fields grow.
I think the 350 motor is a great way for potential stockcar guys to step up for a few seasons, as they cover the costs of the quickchange, hoosiers, shocks etc.
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Post by brendanlucas on Jun 5, 2015 9:57:55 GMT 12
Some of those sharp eyed folk will have noticed the superstock trial has been granted a further four year extension. This is a reflection of the desire to build overall numbers particularly on those tracks that struggle for a decent field, and probably is seen as future proofing the class. www.speedway.co.nz/pdf/Directors%20Meetings/SNZ%20Update%20-%20May%202015.pdfThe four year extension will allow those fence sitters to go ahead with plans to get racing, & for those with expensive engine oop’s to continue with there racing rather then parking up. I am happy to organize engines on behalf of North Island competitors to make things easy & help keep costs down, & from what I can gather the Leech racing team are organising engines for South Island competitors. I will have an advert up soon with my contact details, but if anyone wishes to contact me prior then just pm me. Thankyou, BL  BTW, Justin Wigget is in the process of having 2 brand new cars being built and is selling his immaculate 'ex Hunter' car that has been built to take the chev, absolute bargain for someone wanting to go superstock racing with a hotrod. |
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Post by philbymac on Oct 27, 2015 19:13:13 GMT 12
Hi I am just wondering if anybody uses the ford coyote v8 in superstocks? Or if they can be made to be legal to run?
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Post by The Observer on Nov 20, 2015 20:48:38 GMT 12
hi team - dos anyone have ionf these engines in th country unused at present? Ini a fella all set to go who may out one in while waiting for the real motor in February  |
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Post by tank11 on Nov 22, 2015 7:44:40 GMT 12
hi team - dos anyone have ionf these engines in th country unused at present? Ini a fella all set to go who may out one in while waiting for the real motor in February Stop drinking before typing Mr O............... Get him to call Brendan. |
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Post by Devilracer on Feb 19, 2016 19:38:49 GMT 12
Whos bringing these engines in or where do we arrange to get one?
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Post by tank11 on Feb 19, 2016 19:53:49 GMT 12
Whos bringing these engines in or where do we arrange to get one? Brendan Lucas (nth Is)and Leach motor sport(Sth Is) |
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Post by The Observer on Feb 20, 2016 6:40:55 GMT 12
On page 1 and two of this thread here are a phew pictures showing part numbers for this Engine. You could order these engines directly from Chevrolet or take the part number into your favourite speech shop and they could probably order it for you. I hope it's not for a modified
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Post by muff 21w on Feb 21, 2016 19:30:37 GMT 12
We have a trial 350 engine forsale, Complete with all the components required that it doesnt come with that are needed to run. It has not been raced yet. Change in plans now and it needs to go. Give me a call
027 2325081 Cheers Nathan
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Post by stockcaraddict on May 3, 2017 15:08:38 GMT 12
Any further updates regarding this engine?
Seems to have gone a little quiet this season since the 9c of Hamilton coming out in a new car, 84a and Marx also both having limited runs during the season.
Hope to see some more coverage of these motors and get afew more out on track next season.
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Post by chewy69a on Jan 27, 2020 15:26:40 GMT 12
Hey guys,
What superstocks are still running these engines this season (specifically)
Any info appreciated.
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