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Jan 30, 2013 18:32:54 GMT 12
Post by Jays on Jan 30, 2013 18:32:54 GMT 12
Trying to work out a 13 team draw
1v2
3v4
5v6
7v8
9v10
11v12
13v1
2v3
4v5
6v7
8v9
10v11
12v13
Top 4 seeded teams = 1,4,7,11
Only problem here is a seeded team races first which wont happen.
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Jan 30, 2013 18:38:12 GMT 12
Post by kaspa69 on Jan 30, 2013 18:38:12 GMT 12
Trying to work out a 13 team draw 1v2 3v4 5v6 7v8 9v10 11v12 13v1 2v3 4v5 6v7 8v9 10v11 12v13 Top 4 seeded teams = 1,4,7,11 Only problem here is a seeded team races first which wont happen. mate that is a perfect draw and whats wrong with a seeded team up 1st i have no probs |
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Jan 30, 2013 18:41:40 GMT 12
Post by BarryB on Jan 30, 2013 18:41:40 GMT 12
Trying to work out a 13 team draw 1v2 3v4 5v6 7v8 9v10 11v12 13v1 2v3 4v5 6v7 8v9 10v11 12v13 Top 4 seeded teams = 1,4,7,11 Only problem here is a seeded team races first which wont happen. You've said your seeded teams are 1, 4, 7 and 11, and race 1 is 1 vs 2, so that's not two seeds. Or is that not what you meant? |
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Jan 30, 2013 18:49:48 GMT 12
Post by Jays on Jan 30, 2013 18:49:48 GMT 12
Wrong end of the stick there barry
I am presuming that one of the advantages of being a seeded team is that you do not race the first race of the night because the track is at its worse.
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Jan 30, 2013 19:00:25 GMT 12
Post by BarryB on Jan 30, 2013 19:00:25 GMT 12
Wrong end of the stick there barry I am presuming that one of the advantages of being a seeded team is that you do not race the first race of the night because the track is at its worse. Try inverting it and you'll be close  |
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Jan 30, 2013 21:02:37 GMT 12
Post by gwen01 on Jan 30, 2013 21:02:37 GMT 12
Anyone know when the draw is happening??
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Jan 31, 2013 9:24:14 GMT 12
Post by BarryB on Jan 31, 2013 9:24:14 GMT 12
That's not confirmed as yet........
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Jan 31, 2013 13:01:59 GMT 12
Post by busterbell on Jan 31, 2013 13:01:59 GMT 12
Wrong end of the stick there barry I am presuming that one of the advantages of being a seeded team is that you do not race the first race of the night because the track is at its worse. send the panthers out!!  ;D  |
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Jan 31, 2013 17:17:01 GMT 12
Post by stockynut on Jan 31, 2013 17:17:01 GMT 12
Wrong end of the stick there barry I am presuming that one of the advantages of being a seeded team is that you do not race the first race of the night because the track is at its worse. send the panthers out!! ;D 2 years ago it was still raining @ 4pm prior to start of 1st night so track was not at it greatest that night, So was same for both teams in each race, So what dose it matter if ya 1st race or last race still same for both teams !! |
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Jan 31, 2013 17:27:11 GMT 12
Post by kaspa69 on Jan 31, 2013 17:27:11 GMT 12
send the panthers out!! ;D 2 years ago it was still raining @ 4pm prior to start of 1st night so track was not at it greatest that night, So was same for both teams in each race, So what dose it matter if ya 1st race or last race still same for both teams !! [/quot yes i was very suprised and happy that the meeting went ahead |
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Feb 1, 2013 5:58:11 GMT 12
Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2013 5:58:11 GMT 12
Pretty much confirmed now, next Tuesday morning is when we will hear the draw evolve. More details later.
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Feb 1, 2013 8:08:38 GMT 12
Post by FrankTheTank on Feb 1, 2013 8:08:38 GMT 12
I will be personally slightly gutted if there are 13 teams. Whilst it is probably best for the sustainability of the event that there are 13 keen teams, I feel anything but the 12 team format is second best.
With the 12 team format you are only competing with the other teams in your group to advance to the semis. With the 13 team format (same with 11 teams in other years), you are competing with every other team to get into the semis. Points scoring becomes of even greater focus. I felt the difference in the quality of the races between the 2 nights at the recent Stockcar Team Champs was largely due to the format (acknowledging that there was no choice for the promoters with the number of available teams).
I do think this detracts from the action. However, I will be happy to be proven wrong with a spectacular first night this year!
It is definitely a hard job for the promoter to finalise the teams, so not trying to be negative about that, just saying it is not my ideal! What would be so wrong with limiting it to the first 12 confirmed teams in years where more than 12 are keen?
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Feb 1, 2013 8:27:31 GMT 12
Post by kaspa69 on Feb 1, 2013 8:27:31 GMT 12
the more teams the better m8 and we will get 13 teams races on night 1 and just maybe in a year or 3 we could have a 16 team comp
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Feb 1, 2013 8:46:30 GMT 12
Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2013 8:46:30 GMT 12
the more teams the better m8 and we will get 13 teams races on night 1 and just maybe in a year or 3 we could have a 16 team comp Just add Holland, Australia and the United States |
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Feb 1, 2013 8:51:42 GMT 12
Post by Skorp on Feb 1, 2013 8:51:42 GMT 12
the more teams the better m8 and we will get 13 teams races on night 1 and just maybe in a year or 3 we could have a 16 team comp I personally would love to see a 24 Team event with qualifying over two nights, or even an entire day of racing! Imagine a 1pm start! |
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Feb 1, 2013 8:53:04 GMT 12
Post by 4zfed on Feb 1, 2013 8:53:04 GMT 12
Trying to work out a 13 team draw 1v2 3v4 5v6 7v8 9v10 11v12 13v1 2v3 4v5 6v7 8v9 10v11 12v13 Top 4 seeded teams = 1,4,7,11 Only problem here is a seeded team races first which wont happen. Another problem with this draw is its a distinct advantage to be team 9 as in both of their races they dont meet a seeded team... |
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Feb 1, 2013 8:56:43 GMT 12
Post by kaspa69 on Feb 1, 2013 8:56:43 GMT 12
Trying to work out a 13 team draw 1v2 3v4 5v6 7v8 9v10 11v12 13v1 2v3 4v5 6v7 8v9 10v11 12v13 Top 4 seeded teams = 1,4,7,11 Only problem here is a seeded team races first which wont happen. Another problem with this draw is its a distinct advantage to be team 9 as in both of their races they dont meet a seeded team... make seeded teams 1 4 7 10 |
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Feb 1, 2013 8:57:25 GMT 12
Post by Skorp on Feb 1, 2013 8:57:25 GMT 12
the more teams the better m8 and we will get 13 teams races on night 1 and just maybe in a year or 3 we could have a 16 team comp Just add Holland, Australia and the United States Wasn't there a rumor a couple of years ago that the Dutch were looking at putting a team together? As for the US, just put Ricky Logan, Jonathon Allard, Craig Dollansky, Donny Shotz and Peter Murphy in some borrowed Supers (I'm sure Pete Rees and Scott Meirs have enough spares between them!) and let them loose. And I don't think those soft Aussies could handle the hard hitting of Teams racing! |
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Feb 1, 2013 9:03:02 GMT 12
Post by 4zfed on Feb 1, 2013 9:03:02 GMT 12
Another problem with this draw is its a distinct advantage to be team 9 as in both of their races they dont meet a seeded team... make seeded teams 1 4 7 10 Then team 12 meets no seeded team Kaspa |
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Feb 1, 2013 9:09:09 GMT 12
Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2013 9:09:09 GMT 12
Another problem with this draw is its a distinct advantage to be team 9 as in both of their races they dont meet a seeded team... make seeded teams 1 4 7 10 The seeded teams in a 13 team format will be 1, 4, 7 and 10. Team 12 will meet teams 11 & 13, all non-seed. When you have an uneven draw like that, you're always going to get a slight imbalance. It's impossible not to. With an 11 team draw you'll have 1 unseeded team meeting 2 seeded teams, all of the others meeting 1 seed and 1 non-seed. With an 13 team draw you'll have 1 unseeded team meeting 2 non-seeded teams, all of the others meeting 1 seed and 1 non-seed. It's only a perceived advantage however, as a couple of years back the Panthers were not a seeded team so any pre-conceived "distinct advantage" was gooooone. |
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