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Post by justafan on Feb 9, 2013 12:04:20 GMT 12
quite possibly roxcy but the key part of that rule is in the referee's opinion  |
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 9, 2013 12:08:00 GMT 12
quite possibly roxcy but the key part of that rule is in the referee's opinion and where are the referees from local or speedway nz??  |
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Post by busterbell on Feb 9, 2013 12:12:34 GMT 12
wall riding is a palmy specialty, the tanks being particularly proficient at it. seems odd that suddenly they decide to police it after all these years, and in saying that just pick one incident and not any other. perhaps they should have left this rule as it was, ignored.  |
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Post by Skorp on Feb 9, 2013 12:13:55 GMT 12
quite possibly roxcy but the key part of that rule is in the referee's opinion and where are the referees from local or speedway nz?? I believe the guy in charge of the whole thing is from Rotorua, which several other high ranking officials also brought in from other tracks |
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Post by penman on Feb 9, 2013 12:18:27 GMT 12
the problem wasnt so much the riding the wall itself as that the referee decided he was using the wall to his advantage. From the rulebook R12-3-5 Race in Progress (f) Any Competitor using a concrete wall or bank to an advantage, in the opinion of the Referee, may be penalised. namely he couldnt turn so was using the wall to change direction and passign cars. Fair enough so under that logic 3 cars from the gb v panthers race last year should have been pulled off. Inconsistent rulings are once again consistent. Last year, last year, last year.... Get a sore neck looking back all the time? |
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Post by busterbell on Feb 9, 2013 12:25:09 GMT 12
and where are the referees from local or speedway nz?? I believe the guy in charge of the whole thing is from Rotorua, which several other high ranking officials also brought in from other tracks totally irrelevant where the others come from, the final don't argue comes from the head ref! |
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Post by justafan on Feb 9, 2013 12:28:13 GMT 12
was announced last night that the head officials are all from tracks other than palmy
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Post by widjem on Feb 9, 2013 12:34:39 GMT 12
Technically by the rule book, rolling a car using the wall is to your advantage and you should be removed??
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Post by Shai-tan on Feb 9, 2013 12:41:31 GMT 12
Fair enough so under that logic 3 cars from the gb v panthers race last year should have been pulled off. Inconsistent rulings are once again consistent. Last year, last year, last year.... Get a sore neck looking back all the time? No get a sore wallet coming to support teams and having their chances destroyed by something they let slide previous years. Just want consistent rulings. You can't ignore incidents then punish others for the same thing. |
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Post by deanwatts88 on Feb 9, 2013 12:55:41 GMT 12
man it didnt take long for the same old same old the refs got it wrong... or why this year and not last year or why last year and not this year thread huh...
Question!!!!!!!!!! Do you think the team you are complaining about are actaully cheats? Do you think they need to cheat.. If so please say it out loud and in public where everyone can hear and SEE you...
particularly love for you to do it inside the Panthers camp.
Ohh also please make sure the refs are there to hear you calling them cheats too.
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Post by Shai-tan on Feb 9, 2013 13:00:29 GMT 12
man it didnt take long for the same old same old the refs got it wrong... or why this year and not last year or why last year and not this year thread huh... Question!!!!!!!!!! Do you think the team you are complaining about are actaully cheats? Do you think they need to cheat.. If so please say it out loud and in public where everyone can hear and SEE you... particularly love for you to do it inside the Panthers camp. Ohh also please make sure the refs are there to hear you calling them cheats too. Who said anything about cheating? You must have the wrong thread friend |
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Post by theothermikeyb on Feb 9, 2013 13:10:50 GMT 12
do you have an argument for the weather conditions Shai-tan?
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Post by busterbell on Feb 9, 2013 13:11:14 GMT 12
man it didnt take long for the same old same old the refs got it wrong... or why this year and not last year or why last year and not this year thread huh... Question!!!!!!!!!! Do you think the team you are complaining about are actaully cheats? Do you think they need to cheat.. If so please say it out loud and in public where everyone can hear and SEE you... particularly love for you to do it inside the Panthers camp. Ohh also please make sure the refs are there to hear you calling them cheats too. Who said anything about cheating? You must have the wrong thread friend to hasty shaitan......... one more night to go yet........ ;D |
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 9, 2013 13:12:00 GMT 12
man it didnt take long for the same old same old the refs got it wrong... or why this year and not last year or why last year and not this year thread huh... Question!!!!!!!!!! Do you think the team you are complaining about are actaully cheats? Do you think they need to cheat.. If so please say it out loud and in public where everyone can hear and SEE you... particularly love for you to do it inside the Panthers camp. Ohh also please make sure the refs are there to hear you calling them cheats too. Who said anything about cheating? You must have the wrong thread friend i agree shai-tan |
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Post by theothermikeyb on Feb 9, 2013 13:13:15 GMT 12
man it didnt take long for the same old same old the refs got it wrong... or why this year and not last year or why last year and not this year thread huh... Question!!!!!!!!!! Do you think the team you are complaining about are actaully cheats? Do you think they need to cheat.. If so please say it out loud and in public where everyone can hear and SEE you... particularly love for you to do it inside the Panthers camp. Ohh also please make sure the refs are there to hear you calling them cheats too. Who said anything about cheating? You must have the wrong thread friend Seems to most of us that you were insinuating favouratism. Maybe you need to reword your first post? |
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Post by deanwatts88 on Feb 9, 2013 13:16:43 GMT 12
Nope not the wrong thread.. although I did have to go back and read it again to make sure  When people say that drivers were using the wall to their advantage knowingly against the rules, then other drivers saw them doing this so did the same thing to gain adavantage then they are implying that all these drivers are cheating. Just without the Balls to say what they really want to say. Then all the talk about "where are the refs from" and how they let some things go and pick up on others again implying that it depends on the which team is implying that they are cheating also. Sorry I have used the word imply way too much in one post  |
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Post by alloyplatypus on Feb 9, 2013 13:33:36 GMT 12
Nope not the wrong thread.. although I did have to go back and read it again to make sure When people say that drivers were using the wall to their advantage knowingly against the rules, then other drivers saw them doing this so did the same thing to gain adavantage then they are implying that all these drivers are cheating. Just without the Balls to say what they really want to say. Then all the talk about "where are the refs from" and how they let some things go and pick up on others again implying that it depends on the which team is implying that they are cheating also. Sorry I have used the word imply way too much in one post The refs implied that one car was "cheating" last night and pulled him off. This whole thread is questioning that, when it was aloud last year (and others). I guess the thread is questioning the refs consistancy rather than the driver's intention's. |
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Post by justafan on Feb 9, 2013 13:54:26 GMT 12
are the refs the same as last year? Have they had further training in regards aspects of what happened last year? have they had word from higher up ie snz to enforce certain things? we dont know the answer to any of this.
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Post by sideshow69 on Feb 9, 2013 14:01:52 GMT 12
watched it at home last night and yes peter Rees did use the wall to his avarntich more than once too.he was not taken out to the wall he used it to his avarntich  sorry spelling |
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Post by gray40 on Feb 9, 2013 14:21:36 GMT 12
I think that you will find that the ref pulled him for Excessive use of the wall to his advantage. Where the line is drawn between excessive use and normal racing is the question that only the ref can answer. (Bugger that ... I'd never want the ref's job, you'd be dammed if you did .... or dammed if you didn't!)  |
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sorry spelling
