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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 21:40:09 GMT 12
Would like to know peoples views on the pricing of Superstocks , not talking mega dollar cars but cars that are at an entry level for new drivers wanting to get into the sport .
From a buyers and sellers prospective what would be a reasonable price .
For instance a car that reasonable run of the mill gear in it .
Cheers in advance
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 1:47:10 GMT 12
Your looking to value your car highrevs? what gear you got in it and i'll give ya my idea of what its worth, it may be right it may be wrong but my guess is as good as anybody's I spose...
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Post by Jeff See on Apr 18, 2014 10:58:52 GMT 12
Work it out on parts value for a start.
If your car is worth say 10k if you sold it as parts then that's your starting point i guess.
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Post by tank11 on Apr 18, 2014 14:23:08 GMT 12
Depends if it is on the track, been on the track or just in the garage.
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Post by cookster on Apr 18, 2014 16:39:51 GMT 12
If someone really wants it it is worth whatever you want. I am looking at the moment, really wanted to get a super but just cant afford one. A cheap but reasonable supers from what I see are around 30 to 35k. Has it a spares package, for me that is crucial when I look at cars. You may be looking for more or maybe less. I suggest get a figure in your head and go with it. How much was you looking for your car. Come on stick some pictures up of it......You may twist my arm  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 18:13:10 GMT 12
Don't think I can agree with you Tank on that one ... A lot has to do with what the car is and what has been put into it . I know of an ex 1NZ Gorge Superstock sitting in a shed for sale that hasn't been raced this season , are you saying that it wouldn't be worth much  ? Cookster , Im just trying to get a rough idea before I list mine on here . Hopefully Zitadel will come back with a figure for us. When you see std Stockcars listed for 25 grand minus motor , Im picking that a race ready Superstock must be worth a fair bit more .Will sit down and do an add up and see what it owes me. Jeff Sees idea of breaking it all down and valueing it as parts value seems a good idea. |
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Post by cookster on Apr 18, 2014 18:40:18 GMT 12
I think 25k minus engine for any standard is way over the odds but if that is what people want to pay then why not buy a super.
Like i say there is some descent supers on here for 30k with spares.If you think yours is worth that or more go for it. There was a super on tm a while back for 14k. That ended up in Auckland.
Got to say it is a buyers market at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 19:56:37 GMT 12
True , I will be getting a few opinions plus adding up what it owes me and then will settle on an asking price ,
Then list it on Macgors over the off season . I don't plan on losing any money on it .
If it sells it sells , if not no worrys . Im not desperate .
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Post by tank11 on Apr 18, 2014 20:14:21 GMT 12
Don't think I can agree with you Tank on that one ... A lot has to do with what the car is and what has been put into it . I know of an ex 1NZ Gorge Superstock sitting in a shed for sale that hasn't been raced this season , are you saying that it wouldn't be worth much ? Cookster , Im just trying to get a rough idea before I list mine on here . Hopefully Zitadel will come back with a figure for us. When you see std Stockcars listed for 25 grand minus motor , Im picking that a race ready Superstock must be worth a fair bit more .Will sit down and do an add up and see what it owes me. Jeff Sees idea of breaking it all down and valueing it as parts value seems a good idea. Then go to choice 2..............  Been on the track..............  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 21:25:12 GMT 12
I have grappled with it a while and would rather not offer a figure publicly... hows that for diplomacy... see your pm
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Post by stdstock on Apr 18, 2014 22:49:40 GMT 12
dosn"t this happin every year? ?? from the the same people |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 6:40:38 GMT 12
I don't think so , and being an open forum people have a right to ask ..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 20:34:32 GMT 12
I have done a few calculations , added up what the car owes and if I sold it for 30 grand I would be well out of pocket . Also broken it down as if I was to strip it and sell it all off in parts , would return well over 30 grand . Another way of looking at it is if you bought a bare secondhand chassis and built an entry level Superstock from scratch , could you do it for 30 grand . ??/ Maybe you could with budget cheap bits and skimping here and there , but what would you end up with. $30 grand + is the figure that keeps coming up , so possibly where we will go . Failing that the option to strip and sell as parts is something worth looking at... |
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Post by cookster on Apr 19, 2014 22:42:12 GMT 12
Or even better race it next season....
Have you thought about leasing it out. Not sure what the cost for a driver is to lease.
Just a thought
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Post by stdstock on Apr 19, 2014 23:17:24 GMT 12
highrevs I wasn't having ago at you. but you have been around along time. you do know how much your car is
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 7:54:05 GMT 12
stdstock , put it this way , I know what it owes me ,but I was asking opinions on what a fair entry level price would be to advertise it , We all know that we will never ever get back what we spent and if I did advertise it for what we spent then people would class us as dreamers. If I knew ,why would I be asking .
Cookster , leasing isn't really an option. All you end up with is a car worst than when you started .
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Post by Superstock22s on Apr 20, 2014 11:43:24 GMT 12
Put it this way, people will pay or offer what they think its worth.
Believe me you definitely don't get what you think its worth v's what people want to spend.
I sold my super stock this year 15 meetings old everything brand new at start, full Hartley spec engine had everything all the hotrods have and I only got $35k how's that.
$25k for 1nz stock car rolling is ludicrous when you could have bought my car with every thing in it that cost me well over $70 to build. is
And all just because the chassis was an unknown really?
Someone saw what running gear it had and now the running gear is being put into a new Barr chassis and it will double its value overnight.
Go figure its sux but that's the way the world is we aren't in to make money but the addiction is worse then any drug you can purchase at the local adult shop but that's another story.
Probably should have sold it in parts but hey had pay out others and cut my losses
That's my rant make of it as you will but people will pay what they think its worth end of story.
$35 k would be a good start to list it at, they seem to be a good buy around that.
Brent 22s
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Post by mcfly on Apr 20, 2014 17:56:11 GMT 12
$25k for 1nz stock car rolling is ludicrous when you could have bought my car with every thing in it that cost me well over $70 to build. I agree with this statement. You know something has gone seriously wrong with the interpretation of "the intent of the class" and rules when a rolling chassis is priced at that level. It should be in the superstock class, not the "budget" class. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 18:46:58 GMT 12
Thanks for that Superstock22s ,
Many seem to point you at that $25 grand figure , but its a bit of a hard one to workout comparing your Superstock to a stockcar listed at the same price .
I have a figure in mind [ car on trailer ] and will give it a shot in the off season .
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Post by 971stock on Apr 20, 2014 22:29:35 GMT 12
$25k for 1nz stock car rolling is ludicrous when you could have bought my car with every thing in it that cost me well over $70 to build. is Brent 22s Hey Brent, Fair enough call but Im starting to wonder if people know the cost's of the stockcars these days? Most top stockcars on this site ready to race are $30,000 to $40,000 there is Probably about 10 ish in that price bracket atm? So you've singled out my race car Brent which is $25,000 ONO! rolling, with abosolutly everything including a big range of spares.So you are saying these cars priced at $30-$40k are worth it? because they have engines? for 10k for another Engine mine could have a new Holden and be the same price as all the rest, so go figure? You Built your superstock chassis I assume? so you would of cut down a huge amount of $$ when building your car. Were a Keith Gill is somewhere between 14-18k.(New I know).. Anyways but 1nz being Ludicrous? I think not have a decent look at the market. MCFLY
I agree with this statement. You know something has gone seriously wrong with the interpretation of "the intent of the class" and rules when a rolling chassis is priced at that level. It should be in the superstock class, not the "budget" clasSame with you , just look at the market, but i agree with you on the interpretation of "the intent of the class" , But its gone out of hand years ago, even before i started racing, but to keep up with the likes of Rees you have to spend abit of coin here and there and everything the stockcars boys buy these days are bloody exspensive, espically for an apprentice! Cheers |
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