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Post by BarryB on Jan 29, 2015 15:43:32 GMT 12
The all-important 2015 draw will take place at Auckland's Waikaraka Park Family Speedway this Saturday night, the same night as the Auckland Allstars versus Team GB Superstock teams race (and the big Dirt Cup meeting for the Modifieds of course).
The Top 4 sides from last year will again be the four seeded teams for this year, heading up the 4 groups of three teams each. As per previous years, the other 8 teams are drawn randomly underneath those four in the standard 12 team format.
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The Baypark Brawlers
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Group 2;
The Wanganui Warriors
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Group 3;
The Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes
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Group 4;
The Manawatu Mustangs
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Post by Jeffery on Jan 29, 2015 15:52:17 GMT 12
The all-important 2015 draw will take place at Auckland's Waikaraka Park Family Speedway this Saturday night, the same night as the Auckland Allstars versus Team GB Superstock teams race (and the big Dirt Cup meeting for the Modifieds of course). The Top 4 sides from last year will again be the four seeded teams for this year, heading up the 4 groups of three teams each. As per previous years, the other 8 teams are drawn randomly underneath those four in the standard 12 team format. Group 1; The Baypark Brawlers ? ? Group 2; The Wanganui Warriors ? ? Group 3; The Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes ? ? Group 4; The Manawatu Mustangs ? ? So the Brawlers do take the Busters 1 seed..? Interesting. |
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Post by carl on Jan 29, 2015 15:53:46 GMT 12
Was just going to ask how did the brawlers go to the top seed when they didn't race last year?
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Post by m8sr8z on Jan 29, 2015 16:02:11 GMT 12
Yes very interesting. New team at number 1
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Post by babylon567 on Jan 29, 2015 16:04:54 GMT 12
Barrys rigged the draw already LOL
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Post by m8sr8z on Jan 29, 2015 16:08:28 GMT 12
Barrys rigged the draw already LOL It's all rigged. RIGGED Haha |
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Post by Tony on Jan 29, 2015 16:12:26 GMT 12
I was told at the weekend that Wanganui Warriors would be the #1 seeds this year, and that the new Baypark team would be unseeded. Has this changed, or did Barry think no one would notice?
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Post by beachboy on Jan 29, 2015 16:17:21 GMT 12
Palmy will be the 5th team drawn out.
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Jan 29, 2015 16:32:58 GMT 12
Well I guess you can take the Busters out of Baypark Busters but you can't take Baypark out of Baypark Brawlers. So Baypark still No1 seed.
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Post by m8sr8z on Jan 29, 2015 16:39:02 GMT 12
Well I guess you can take the Busters out of Baypark Busters but you can't take Baypark out of Baypark Brawlers. So Baypark still No1 seed. So what ur saying is they should just be called Baypark Busters Haha |
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Post by babylon567 on Jan 29, 2015 16:49:22 GMT 12
doesn't really matter busters or brawlers its Bay park just great to have 12 teams were the winner of each group going through top 4 instead of this nonsense with odd number teams
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Post by carl on Jan 29, 2015 16:55:26 GMT 12
Well I guess you can take the Busters out of Baypark Busters but you can't take Baypark out of Baypark Brawlers. So Baypark still No1 seed. They shouldn't be #1 seed. For example if the alleycats won. (I know a stockcar team) yet withdrew from the following year then the city sinners (2nd auckland team) takes there spot as #1. That doesn't work in my books! |
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Post by percy on Jan 29, 2015 17:36:01 GMT 12
It's a fair question to ask re: the Baypark Brawlers. I imagine the situation is unprecedented and there are no rules that apply to the circumstances so it's up to the promoter to make the call.
A team could have a completely different line-up from one year to the next and still retain their seeding, so I don't think it's the worst decision in the history of New Zealand Speedway.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 29, 2015 17:51:07 GMT 12
Percy makes a good point, as he often does. I asked the question, even going as far as saying I assumed that BP would relinquish their seeding, but was told that the Brawlers retain the spot as it was a Baypark team that won last year. There may very well be different rules for the NZ Stockcar Teams, as that is an official SNZ-supported title. This is promoter's choice. With teams like the Panthers and the Tigers unseeded this year, I doubt a seeding will be of huge benefit. Any one seeded team could draw them both in their group....
Barry B
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Post by midway on Jan 29, 2015 18:26:50 GMT 12
Percy makes a good point, as he often does. I asked the question, even going as far as saying I assumed that BP would relinquish their seeding, but was told that the Brawlers retain the spot as it was a Baypark team that won last year. There may very well be different rules for the NZ Stockcar Teams, as that is an official SNZ-supported title. This is promoter's choice. With teams like the Panthers and the Tigers unseeded this year, I doubt a seeding will be of huge benefit. Any one seeded team could draw them both in their group.... Barry B we will have to watch with envy as the seed may start to grow perhaps |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Jan 29, 2015 19:41:08 GMT 12
Will it be names in the hat to get pulled out or numbers that correspond to teams. Oh number 5, thats Palmy, they go into a group with blah blah,....i recall numbers being used before and people claiming that when a supposedly easier group developed Palmy conveniently ended up in there as their number was drawn,
A very easy way to manipulate the draw
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Post by BarryB on Jan 29, 2015 20:01:23 GMT 12
Will it be names in the hat to get pulled out or numbers that correspond to teams. Oh number 5, thats Palmy, they go into a group with blah blah,....i recall numbers being used before and people claiming that when a supposedly easier group developed Palmy conveniently ended up in there as their number was drawn, A very easy way to manipulate the draw And did the same people allege the same thing when the Panthers and Mustangs drew the same group? Over time you're obviously going to get draws that are perceived as both easier and harder. The other thing is, 9 times from 10 Palmy is seeded so a group does not "develop" for them to slot into - they're already heading it!! Barry B |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Jan 29, 2015 20:04:01 GMT 12
Just a discussion point Barry. So the question. Numbers or names?
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Post by BarryB on Jan 29, 2015 20:16:53 GMT 12
Why not numbers AND names? We have 4 Groups and 8 teams, two into each group, so one person could draw a team name and another person a group, or vice versa? Do that 8 times and you've got your line up. Doesn't matter how it's done, busterbell will say it's rigged.
Barry B
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 29, 2015 20:21:09 GMT 12
Was just going to ask how did the brawlers go to the top seed when they didn't race last year? because this is how Bruce is going to get the Panthers an easy draw  Echo echo- The sound of the Nelson trophy cabinet |
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