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Post by PeterB on Jan 30, 2015 19:15:15 GMT 12
Its made me think, how hard would it be to somehow wire up a system on the cars dash with a red green and orange light to let them know when the race is finished a red light for a crash etc.
Like an extension of the transponder system.....
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Jan 30, 2015 19:21:05 GMT 12
I'm surprised such a system isn't already in place, thinking years back about a basic light box system. Certainly a huge safety initiative and remove any doubt of black flags, race starts, yellows etc. Somebody design a little dash digital box for this, include track position for restarts!  |
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Post by boner87 on Jan 30, 2015 19:24:34 GMT 12
If anyone has watched indycar they have this setup. It would be an expensive item for drivers/car owners. Better lights at track or a "chequered" light at finish lines would be a cheaper option
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Post by Les on Jan 30, 2015 19:46:59 GMT 12
Could you not have a lap counter in the car? Connected to the transponder so every time you passed the start finish line it connected to the ELS to tell you how many to go?
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Post by Hoosier on Jan 30, 2015 19:54:23 GMT 12
Im not so sure it would be expensive
Everyone has a phone,everyone can download an app,everyone could have that app talking to anything including a red green and orange light in the car
The App could be linked directly to the track system-
actually forget the phone just put a receiver in the car linked to the track system via a local network
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Post by jeds on Jan 30, 2015 19:58:45 GMT 12
like i said in another post, you get a white flag for the last lap so why not a flashing white light when the race leader starts the last lap, would really standout, could be mounted on top of the existing lightbox, light's in car's would be another cost, driver's pay enough now,
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 20:18:16 GMT 12
Its made me think, how hard would it be to somehow wire up a system on the cars dash with a red green and orange light to let them know when the race is finished a red light for a crash etc. Like an extension of the transponder system..... I think it would be just another thing to go wrong especially given the nature of stockcar racing |
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 20:19:38 GMT 12
I think that when the winner passes the finish line the green track lights should start flashing.
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Post by PeterB on Jan 30, 2015 20:19:48 GMT 12
like i said in another post, you get a white flag for the last lap so why not a flashing white light when the race leader starts the last lap, would really standout, could be mounted on top of the existing lightbox, light's in car's would be another cost, driver's pay enough now, I think it would be unfair for the leader if the rest of the racers know when he/she is on their last lap especially in championship meetings. I think it would only need to be brought into superstocks, stockcars and maybe supersaloons I'm sure most drivers won't mind paying a few hundred bucks for a one off. |
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Post by boner87 on Jan 30, 2015 20:26:06 GMT 12
But tracks would have to update their system so two costs. Upgrading lighting is only one cost. LED lights for example.
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Post by theothermikeyb on Jan 30, 2015 20:28:01 GMT 12
Aside from the recent big episode, I don't recall big issues with hits after the lights in recent history. Correct me if I am wrong. Is this a knee jerk reaction?
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Post by beachboy on Jan 30, 2015 20:29:39 GMT 12
Its made me think, how hard would it be to somehow wire up a system on the cars dash with a red green and orange light to let them know when the race is finished a red light for a crash etc. Like an extension of the transponder system..... I think it would be just another thing to go wrong especially given the nature of stockcar racing was just thinking the same thing, the idea is good but in the contact classes it is likely to be another thing that will break and if it isn't working at the start of a race are you put on the infield and excluded from the race? |
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Post by screaminV8 on Jan 30, 2015 20:39:31 GMT 12
The biggest danger in the contact classes seems to be drivers not seeing reds when its daylight. Ideas How to solve that?
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 30, 2015 20:41:38 GMT 12
I think that when the winner passes the finish line the green track lights should start flashing. I like this - a means of telling people the winner has passed the flag, but the race is still going for the rest. Easy enough to manage I'm sure? The only other problem is establishing a means of commuincation between finished racers and those still going so there is no doubt about who is a finished car and who is still going :-\ Hand outside of the window or a coloured tag/tape piece (something obvious to drivers mainly) that says 'yup I'm finished, carry on' or something like that. Maybe not that but something similar. Does that make sense? :-\ |
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 20:42:31 GMT 12
The biggest danger in the contact classes seems to be drivers not seeing reds when its daylight. Ideas How to solve that? Hard to beat men waving red rags on sticks. I can think of no better more reliable system. |
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Post by PeterB on Jan 30, 2015 20:49:43 GMT 12
No point having flashing green lights when there's a dust storm on the track when nobody can see the lights.
How often does the transponder break in a crash?
If the Reds were in the cars dash how would that not work.
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Post by percy on Jan 30, 2015 20:52:24 GMT 12
Rather than lights how about a one-way radio system?
We've used it at Western Springs for some seasons now. Initially there were a lot of issues with it but this season in particular it seems to be working really well.
Rather than having lights on the dashboard an official could announce over the one-way radio system when the reds/yellows are activated. Perhaps the official could also announce when the first car crosses the line for the chequered flag so competitors know the race is over next time they cross the start/finish line.
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Post by PeterB on Jan 30, 2015 20:52:56 GMT 12
The biggest danger in the contact classes seems to be drivers not seeing reds when its daylight. Ideas How to solve that? Hard to beat men waving red rags on sticks. I can think of no better more reliable system. Until one of them get knocked off there feet. I've seen some close calls with them. Maybe the should get eyes in the back of there head. This thread should be locked now it's served its purpose |
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Post by TonyG188r on Jan 30, 2015 20:53:02 GMT 12
The red LED strips at the wellington speedway were fantastic at the NZS!!
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Post by tank11 on Jan 30, 2015 20:55:43 GMT 12
Aside from the recent big episode, I don't recall big issues with hits after the lights in recent history. Correct me if I am wrong. Is this a knee jerk reaction? Wasn't Rex Nield rolled after the flag one year? |
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