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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 13:41:03 GMT 12
I am guessing that we will have a series of Qualifying heats and then a series of Finals heats. Could be a long night  Anthony |
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Post by percy on Feb 23, 2015 14:15:24 GMT 12
The official entry form contains the horror www.speedway.co.nz/asp/archive.aspI have no idea how they are going to make this work. It looks like a driver may have to race 7 times on the night! 2 x qualifying heats 1 x repechage 3 x finals heats 1 x run-off Surely this event should be formatted with a bit of common sense. 2 Groups, marble draw and reverse grid heats, B-Main/Pole Shuffle, A-Main. It's not rocket science. At the NZ Mods the repechage guys were required to race 5 times on finals night and that meeting finished at 11:40pm. What time will this meeting finish? How long until Onehunga residents have had enough and form an action group to combat late night speedway noise? How are families supposed to attend this so called family sport when meetings finish near on midnight? A fantastic field has been assembled for this event but the format is going to make for a long drawn out affair and that's assuming there will be no protests! Thank goodness I will be in Rotorua where they actually think about the best way of running their show. In fact I might be able to drive back from Rotorua to Waikaraka in time to catch the 3rd heat! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 14:43:24 GMT 12
The format which I've been given is
1 x qualifying heat for each group to find the top seven from each
1 x repechage for the remaining 6 spots
The top 20 cars to race over 3 heats to find the Valvoline North Island Super Saloon Champion.
Codi
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Post by dps on Feb 23, 2015 14:54:56 GMT 12
The format which I've been given is 1 x qualifying heat for each group Surely not, cant see how that will work.. how do they sort the grid draws? if you have a back grid you are seriously disadvantaged... With 27 cars for a 1 night show you have to ditch the 3 heat format its that simple. needs to be 2 groups 2 heats each (front & back grid) maybe a repercharge to find 20 cars for a one race 20 lap final. |
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Post by mordecai on Feb 23, 2015 15:11:07 GMT 12
3 heats each group and 3 heats finals total 9 races and have 2 support classes 15 races or even 3 support classes 18 races
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Post by Jamo on Feb 23, 2015 15:58:55 GMT 12
Correct me if I am wrong but up until about 1 week ago there were less than 20 cars entered? On entry form it says entry cut off date was Feb 15th? How many were entered by that date? 27?? I doubt it!
Bloody hard for a promoter to arrange a format and support classes etc without knowing how many cars are going to enter and how many races he needs to allow for.
2 ways to handle it IMHO. Stick hard and fast to the entry cut off date and only those that enter on time get to run, no exceptions or do what they are doing by accepting all late entries and trying to put something together that will work in a one night show.
The guys who did enter on time can rightly be annoyed if they miss out on qualifying because their one heat start is from the rear because they have no luck pulling a marble.
Maybe another way to do it is all the guys who entered on time are automatically into the finals and the rest who entered late can have a one race deal to find the remaining cars to make up the field. At least this way the guys who were organised and got their entry's in on time are not the losers! Might encourage guys to get their S#it together next time!!
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Post by speedinaway on Feb 23, 2015 16:01:46 GMT 12
I'd say it's a mistake and should read 2 heats each group then a 3 race final. Codi is checking it out with Bruce.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:59:49 GMT 12
Correct me if I am wrong but up until about 1 week ago there were less than 20 cars entered? On entry form it says entry cut off date was Feb 15th? How many were entered by that date? 27?? I doubt it! Bloody hard for a promoter to arrange a format and support classes etc without knowing how many cars are going to enter and how many races he needs to allow for. 2 ways to handle it IMHO. Stick hard and fast to the entry cut off date and only those that enter on time get to run, no exceptions or do what they are doing by accepting all late entries and trying to put something together that will work in a one night show. The guys who did enter on time can rightly be annoyed if they miss out on qualifying because their one heat start is from the rear because they have no luck pulling a marble. Maybe another way to do it is all the guys who entered on time are automatically into the finals and the rest who entered late can have a one race deal to find the remaining cars to make up the field. At least this way the guys who were organised and got their entry's in on time are not the losers! Might encourage guys to get their S#it together next time!! All cars where entered before the 15th except for 7m which was entered the day after. Codi |
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Post by kwikchange on Feb 23, 2015 20:18:01 GMT 12
I'd say it's a mistake and should read 2 heats each group then a 3 race final. Codi is checking it out with Bruce. Page 42 of the SNZ rule book, minimum 2 qualifying heats marble reverse, repecharges at the discretion of the promotion. |
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Post by midway on Feb 23, 2015 20:47:27 GMT 12
The official entry form contains the horror www.speedway.co.nz/asp/archive.asp In fact I might be able to drive back from Rotorua to Waikaraka in time to catch the 3rd heat! Not at the speed you are so use too .. |
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Post by porry41 on Feb 24, 2015 22:02:48 GMT 12
I don't care how long it takes .will bring caravan. think id put my money on 36a ......also see plastic mikes car 69k has been sold .hic.
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Post by Hooncorp on Feb 25, 2015 8:49:31 GMT 12
I'm with Porry.
I love spectating at motorsport, and if I pay to get in, start watching at 7pm until 9.30 pm I'm happy, but if the event goes past 10, 11 or whatever, I'm even happier.
Judging by some of these contributors, they seem to want to go home virtually once the race meet gets underway.
Not a fan of this "arms folded, can't do attitude"
Hooncorp.
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Post by Jamo on Feb 25, 2015 9:28:45 GMT 12
I'd say it's a mistake and should read 2 heats each group then a 3 race final. Codi is checking it out with Bruce. Page 42 of the SNZ rule book, minimum 2 qualifying heats marble reverse, repecharges at the discretion of the promotion. M4-30-1. Maybe this has been implemented? |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 25, 2015 10:13:48 GMT 12
I'm with Porry. I love spectating at motorsport, and if I pay to get in, start watching at 7pm until 9.30 pm I'm happy, but if the event goes past 10, 11 or whatever, I'm even happier. Judging by some of these contributors, they seem to want to go home virtually once the race meet gets underway. Not a fan of this "arms folded, can't do attitude" Hooncorp. I agree to a point hooncorp, but a 5 hour show isn't offering better value for money or offering more action than a 3 hour show if the extra 2 hours are spent fart arsing around and trying to sort things out. Also, when a track calls their speedway a "family speedway" this insinuates to me that it's families they are trying to attract and appeal to, and therefore it's going to finish at a relatively family friendly time. People can always leave early, obviously, but to attract them to a certain advertised event then have them leave before that event is determined can be detrimental to attracting them back again as well. Us addicts can handle what you're suggesting, but it's the casual fan's attendance that is going to make the difference at most events whether any club loses money, breaks even or makes a profit (i.e; we hardly ever see the house full signs out). Get them to "casually" turn up more often, and more nights may register in the black. Sometimes it's the tracks with a curfew that have the advantage. Barry B |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 11:32:32 GMT 12
Barry you are completely correct. you will never get much of a crowd if you are depending on just speedway fans. It is peple like us that drag along friends and family that bring the crowds. Waikaraka is always at least 25 minutes late dropping the green flag. If racng starts at 7.00 hen it should start then. Unfortunatly to ofen the tag along people we bring dont get value for moneyand nexttimeweare looking for people to takewith us they dont want to go again. Bring back the clowns for the kids . Many people alsodont want a extra long nite sitting ithe cold just because others start late and cant get theeeir act together.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 23:09:46 GMT 12
Any update on the Qualifying format?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 10:31:20 GMT 12
Any update on the Qualifying format? Anthony Format is going to be changed and will be signed off by SNZ. Updated Groups Red Group 1NZ Steve Flynn 7m Brent Emerson 9w Mark Pitcher 11a Lynn Yates 13b Mick Quinn 24a Ben Harding 27m Chris Cowling Withdrawn due to engine issue 36a Mike Peglar 41b Graham Strong 43m John Roberts 53m Mark Hutchins 66h Craig Marsh 69k Mike Wilson Withdrawn due to work commitments 88m Gavin Dyer Blue Group 6b Grant Flynn 7a Mike Slater 12m Kristen Vermeulen 16m Mark Osborne 21h Steve Williams 24w Martin Halcrow 41m Terry Corrin 58a Max Andresen 63a Nige Mouat 71m Russell Donavan 77s Blondie Chamberlain 88w Brian Comerford 96a Lance Jennings Codi |
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Post by theycallmewade on Feb 27, 2015 19:24:31 GMT 12
do you know what format it is being changed to?
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Post by pnspeed on Feb 27, 2015 19:58:59 GMT 12
do you know what format it is being changed to? If all competitors and Officials agree we will run a 25 lap, one race, Valvoline North Island Super Saloon Championship. FORMAT All competitors have been split into two groups - yet to be finalised because of withdrawals. All competitors do 2 Elimination Heats - grids Draw and Reverse. First 8 from each group into the final. Repercharge for the remaining Super Saloons, the first four from the repercharge will take grids 17 to 20 in the 25 Lap North Island Championship Race. If a tie on points the grid position will be decided by the toss of a coin as per the Rule Book. Subject to Time - The top three points scorers from each group (Six Cars) will go into a pole shuffle / shoot out. This will give the top six their grid positions for the Championship race. Winner of Pole Shuffle has choice of Grid 1 or Grid 2. |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Feb 27, 2015 20:05:45 GMT 12
Have you had any pull out of these?  |
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