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Post by SpeedwayLive on Jun 28, 2015 15:20:19 GMT 12
RANDOM THOUGHT ALERT:
Is it time for a National Events Promoter?
This person would be ultimately responsible for promotion and running of ALL SNZ titles. They would work with the clubs and provide consistency between titles.
The NZRFU control all All Blacks games and pay the venues accordantly. Each event would have a template and tracks would have a list of responsibility with a time line attached. Minimum standards and expectancies.
Sponsors could be sort from National Corporates rather than local struggling business. 5 years sponsorship deals could be stitched together etc. Local sponsorship then could then be spread amongst heat races providing a larger prize pool.
Stream rights would remain with SNZ. This allows for the Fan to help support the governing body rather than the Track / Driver who are providing the entertainment.
Just a few thought on the basic premise of the idea ...
Jason
SpeedwayLive
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Post by boner87 on Jun 28, 2015 19:35:40 GMT 12
Like the idea but would the sponsorship part work? Just with speedway not getting "coverage" which may change if someone like this came into play
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Post by rebuilder on Jul 3, 2015 16:22:57 GMT 12
Like the idea but would the sponsorship part work? Just with speedway not getting "coverage" which may change if someone like this came into play Which begs the question, Why is speedway not getting any coverage?,why doe's it smoulder away in the background of NZ motor sport?.Look at drifting,a relative new comer compared to our great sport,it gets great sponsorship great coverage and great crowds.I wonder what the average age of this group of people is?Why are'nt these people interested in speedway. I have my own opinions on this but would like to hear other peoples views. |
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Post by boner87 on Jul 3, 2015 18:15:15 GMT 12
Relatively simple. Drifting is big overseas. There fore when there are companies like red bull see drifting happening then they get behind it because it's good for them. Plus the sponsor caters to the crowd. Hopefully that made sense. There are probably a lot more behind the scenes as well plus drifting became part or motorsport New Zealand which has some weight to throw around in regards to TV. I remember when I raced formula first to get TV coverage (20mins ish, sky sport at some random time) was in around 10k. It is possible buts needs some real drive and everyone to get behind to them reap the rewards
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Post by bikeboy on Jul 3, 2015 18:41:28 GMT 12
Relatively simple. Drifting is big overseas. There fore when there are companies like red bull see drifting happening then they get behind it because it's good for them. Plus the sponsor caters to the crowd. Hopefully that made sense. There are probably a lot more behind the scenes as well plus drifting became part or motorsport New Zealand which has some weight to throw around in regards to TV. I remember when I raced formula first to get TV coverage (20mins ish, sky sport at some random time) was in around 10k. It is possible buts needs some real drive and everyone to get behind to them reap the rewards drifting pays for there TV coverage, like all motorsports, and the drivers pay fairly large entry fees, (and have to enter the whole series) to compete, TV costs money, and I am not sure it is worth it, |
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Post by Pirate Racing NZ on Jul 3, 2015 22:44:05 GMT 12
Streaming or on demand is getting more common place these days. Watching YouTube on your TV or device is where I think it's going. A million times better to see it live at the track but if you can't go....
Put the stream links on social media and they get shared to people who never would have looked at them. Hopefully will attract more trackside with out having to do deals with expensive TV no one watches.
Just in my opinion.
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Post by cameraman on Jul 3, 2015 23:45:29 GMT 12
Streaming or on demand is getting more common place these days. Watching YouTube on your TV or device is where I think it's going. A million times better to see it live at the track but if you can't go.... Put the stream links on social media and they get shared to people who never would have looked at them. Hopefully will attract more trackside with out having to do deals with expensive TV no one watches. Just in my opinion. Your very much on track there with the way more and more people are viewing coverage now. Sponsorship for online coverage and advertising agencies are still a bit sceptical about the online world but is slowly increasing. A national promoter would be good and bad ... Good for consistency and no date clashes and for gaining a national sponsor for nz and gp titles for each class ... Bad for lining the pockets of one man and not our small clubs that need these events to survive also could have bad habits which ruin the feel of the local promoted events. I think this discussion needs to continue and could be great if it is managed correctly. Cody |
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Post by boner87 on Jul 4, 2015 7:00:06 GMT 12
So ok live stream the event. Still going to cost a lot as some here will know but just not paying for it to be on TV unless major sponsor wants to pay for it. Pretty sure we've had live streaming some major events recently but as soon as something goes slightly astray it's all poo pooing the idea of live streaming because it's not always reliable from some of the remote locations of speedway.
Is there a way to win??
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Post by bikeboy on Jul 4, 2015 7:10:06 GMT 12
the live stream is great for the die hard fan, that will sit there all night and watch, but does it reach the new fan, who will then go to the races, a one hour show on normal TV is much better to get new fans imo,
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Post by rebuilder on Jul 4, 2015 10:14:03 GMT 12
Yes new fans! as boner87 pointed out earlier drifting is big,and it is big because it has a huge following.The fans the crowds the masses, this is what makes any event attractive to sponsors,get the crowds the rest will follow! We must make speedway more appealing and affordable to the younger generation.
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Post by midway on Jul 4, 2015 10:51:40 GMT 12
i think you are drifting away from the threads topic
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Post by Pirate Racing NZ on Jul 4, 2015 17:48:33 GMT 12
Yes, to get back on topic, a NZ promoter sounds good. Tracks should still be able to make some cash with a little cream to the promoter yes?
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Post by bikeboy on Jul 5, 2015 14:32:49 GMT 12
Yes, to get back on topic, a NZ promoter sounds good. Tracks should still be able to make some cash with a little cream to the promoter yes? is there enough for both parties now? I imagine now with a rotation policy that the clubs will not longer have to put up big prize money pools, but just go somewhere near the minimum, surely a national events promotor would have to bring more money to the table before getting signed on, as what would be the point overwise (the the clubs/promotors) |
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Post by joker9377 on Jul 6, 2015 18:02:36 GMT 12
Not to try and drift away from topic again but, I think the sport doesent have the massive support from the younger people or corporate sponsors because we don't run modern EFI engines that the younger set can relate to. Were all carbs and steel not Blow off valves and carbon fibre. My thoughts
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Post by midway on Jul 6, 2015 20:53:13 GMT 12
Not to try and drift away from topic again but, I think the sport doesent have the massive support from the younger people or corporate sponsors because we don't run modern EFI engines that the younger set can relate to. Were all carbs and steel not Blow off valves and carbon fibre. My thoughts There is a nice gentleman down palmy way thats into carbon fibre ,and certainly has a Blow off valve :)and further south another bloke with EFI electric fueled imagination exploding whale oil deposits ,these blokes are of the younger generation . |
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Post by rebuilder on Jul 7, 2015 11:45:55 GMT 12
Not to try and drift away from topic again but, I think the sport doesent have the massive support from the younger people or corporate sponsors because we don't run modern EFI engines that the younger set can relate to. Were all carbs and steel not Blow off valves and carbon fibre. My thoughts Off topic... maybe, but highly relevant. Get that younger set involved in stuff they can relate to and i'm sure the competitor ranks will swell, along with the paying crowds. |
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Post by BarryB on Jul 7, 2015 11:59:58 GMT 12
Not to try and drift away from topic again but, I think the sport doesent have the massive support from the younger people or corporate sponsors because we don't run modern EFI engines that the younger set can relate to. Were all carbs and steel not Blow off valves and carbon fibre. My thoughts Off topic... maybe, but highly relevant. Get that younger set involved in stuff they can relate to and i'm sure the competitor ranks will swell, along with the paying crowds. With that there is the danger of turning off some of your existing fan base as well of course, who believe real race cars go "vroom vroom" and not "pop pop". I'm not sure whether a "National Events Promoter" is really what the sport needs, it's a good discussion however, but the sport definitely needs some form of centralised media co-ordination. Barry B |
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Post by joker9377 on Jul 7, 2015 14:34:36 GMT 12
With that there is the danger of turning off some of your existing fan base as well of course, who believe real race cars go "vroom vroom" and not "pop pop".
And therin lies a great promotional tool. V8 vs Jappa lol bums on seats and something for the existing fan base and the new set to get their teeth into.
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Post by mcfly on Jul 7, 2015 17:09:30 GMT 12
With that there is the danger of turning off some of your existing fan base as well of course, who believe real race cars go "vroom vroom" and not "pop pop". And therin lies a great promotional tool. V8 vs Jappa lol bums on seats and something for the existing fan base and the new set to get their teeth into. Aren't production saloons mostly jappas? How many times have these filled a stadium with those who can relate to them?  |
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Post by joker9377 on Jul 8, 2015 16:22:10 GMT 12
And therin lies a great promotional tool. V8 vs Jappa lol bums on seats and something for the existing fan base and the new set to get their teeth into. [/quote]Aren't production saloons mostly jappas? How many times have these filled a stadium with those who can relate to them? [/quote] I meant the engines and bits and pieces not the look of jappas  |
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