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Post by mordecai on Nov 23, 2015 17:52:30 GMT 12
2 previous panthers, Wayne Hemi has a few teams titles as a panther maybe it should be changed to mustangs v tigers |
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Post by teamschampshistorian on Nov 23, 2015 18:36:15 GMT 12
2 previous panthers, Wayne Hemi has a few teams titles as a panther Yeah that slipped my mind. I was only talking about recent champs, and Hemi hasn't been a Panther for some time. |
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Post by tigersfan on Nov 28, 2015 8:47:11 GMT 12
Go the Nelson Tigers and their Team numbers. darn right lol And for those of u who arent familiar with the tigers team numbers, i.e ( mordecai ) .. lol Gray is 82 . Always has been Nicholls is 83 . Always wears that # Harwood is 84 same as above McKenzie is 85 .. green chassis for those who can't remember and his normal racing number Cunningham is 86 . Same reason as 83 and 84 .. It's not hard folks if u do ur homework or know ur team Poor palmy supporters , imagine the confusion if there were 5 tigers cars out there lol |
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2015 8:49:14 GMT 12
Go the Nelson Tigers and their Team numbers. darn right lol And for those of u who arent familiar with the tigers team numbers, i.e ( mordecai ) .. lol Gray is 82 . Always has been Nicholls is 83 . Always wears that # Harwood is 84 same as above McKenzie is 85 .. green chassis for those who can't remember and his normal racing number Cunningham is 86 . Same reason as 83 and 84 .. It's not hard folks if u do ur homework or know ur team Poor palmy supporters , imagine the confusion if there were 5 tigers cars out there lol now let's add another 11 teams to the mix. |
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Post by Tapped on Nov 28, 2015 9:58:12 GMT 12
Prob to confuse the opposing team just as it confuses the audience.
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Post by tank11 on Nov 28, 2015 10:26:00 GMT 12
darn right lol And for those of u who arent familiar with the tigers team numbers, i.e ( mordecai ) .. lol Gray is 82 . Always has been Nicholls is 83 . Always wears that # Harwood is 84 same as above McKenzie is 85 .. green chassis for those who can't remember and his normal racing number Cunningham is 86 . Same reason as 83 and 84 .. It's not hard folks if u do ur homework or know ur team Poor palmy supporters , imagine the confusion if there were 5 tigers cars out there lol now let's add another 11 teams to the mix. LOL Gordon, only two teams race at a time.......... Doesn't worry me one bit whether they race in personal or team numbers, I'm looking to see the leader cross the line. Anything before that is a bonus. The only numbers I might have a beef with are the non-sequence ones brought in to confuse, because it works even on the spectators. |
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Post by mordecai on Nov 28, 2015 10:31:32 GMT 12
Go the Nelson Tigers and their Team numbers. darn right lol And for those of u who arent familiar with the tigers team numbers, i.e ( mordecai ) .. lol Gray is 82 . Always has been Nicholls is 83 . Always wears that # Harwood is 84 same as above McKenzie is 85 .. green chassis for those who can't remember and his normal racing number Cunningham is 86 . Same reason as 83 and 84 .. It's not hard folks if u do ur homework or know ur team Poor palmy supporters , imagine the confusion if there were 5 tigers cars out there lol I n work out no probs at all its the 5 bloody kids that keep asking what number is Kerry and so on where the kids know a lot of the drivers normal numbers |
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2015 10:53:03 GMT 12
now let's add another 11 teams to the mix. LOL Gordon, only two teams race at a time.......... Doesn't worry me one bit whether they race in personal or team numbers, I'm looking to see the leader cross the line. Anything before that is a bonus. The only numbers I might have a beef with are the non-sequence ones brought in to confuse, because it works even on the spectators. Some like the teams numbers , some don't care either way but judging from the personal feedback I've had most prefer drivers to be using their proper race numbers. The teams champs were bliss last season, no constant referring to programs, no constant questions about which car is 'Joe Bloggs driving' or ' who's that in that car ' |
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Post by BarryB on Nov 28, 2015 11:44:37 GMT 12
I've tried to refrain from this debate this time around as it really is just rehashing everything that was said in February, but the one thing most people are overlooking is that it's the promoter's event, he sets the terms of entry and teams enter said advertised competition. The promoter sets the dates and he sets the format, the amount of laps to be run in each race, the prize money. He stipulates the class of car to be raced and certain things that the teams must comply with, two being matching bodywork and normal racing numbers. He arranges the draw. It is the promotion's event, put on for the competitors and the fans, yes, but it is the promotion who is in charge of what, where, when and how things happen.
A team can't expect to turn up a week early or a week late and expect to compete, just as they can't turn up with seven cars, 10 drivers, an underweight rocket-fuelled flier to use as a runner or a 2000kg Sherman tank to use a block car. The rules are quite clear and 91.666667% of teams understood that last season. If a team is able to flaunt the rules then maybe the promotion should flaunt paying out any prize money due to such teams.
So taking that into consideration it doesn't really matter what the vocal internet posters think, and they certainly are vocal, either way. There seems to be an attitude among people posting here that drivers and teams should always follow the rules, except when it doesn't suit them. Then it's okay to do whatever they feel like. It won't wash with your local police officer when he picks you up for speeding because YOU thought that the speed limit on the particular road should be higher. Black and white rules are in place for a reason.
In saying all of that, the Superstock number situation has never been as bad as the Stockcar class. The Alleycats and the Rascals attitude towards the paying punter is nothing short of disgraceful in my opinion, and we can only hope that if HB, Palmy or even (rather ironically) Auckland win the NZ title at Gisborne next February that we'll see similar rules put in place for the Stockcar Teams Champs as well.
Barry B
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Post by tank11 on Nov 28, 2015 11:57:44 GMT 12
I've tried to refrain from this debate this time around as it really is just rehashing everything that was said in February, but the one thing most people are overlooking is that it's the promoter's event, he sets the terms of entry and teams enter said advertised competition. The promoter sets the dates and he sets the format, the amount of laps to be run in each race, the prize money. He stipulates the class of car to be raced and certain things that the teams must comply with, two being matching bodywork and normal racing numbers. He arranges the draw. It is the promotion's event, put on for the competitors and the fans, yes, but it is the promotion who is in charge of what, where, when and how things happen. A team can't expect to turn up a week early or a week late and expect to compete, just as they can't turn up with seven cars, 10 drivers, an underweight rocket-fuelled flier to use as a runner or a 2000kg Sherman tank to use a block car. The rules are quite clear and 91.666667% of teams understood that last season. If a team is able to flaunt the rules then maybe the promotion should flaunt paying out any prize money due to such teams. So taking that into consideration it doesn't really matter what the vocal internet posters think, and they certainly are vocal, either way. There seems to be an attitude among people posting here that drivers and teams should always follow the rules, except when it doesn't suit them. Then it's okay to do whatever they feel like. It won't wash with your local police officer when he picks you up for speeding because YOU thought that the speed limit on the particular road should be higher. Black and white rules are in place for a reason. In saying all of that, the Superstock number situation has never been as bad as the Stockcar class. The Alleycats and the Rascals attitude towards the paying punter is nothing short of disgraceful in my opinion, and we can only hope that if HB, Palmy or even (rather ironically) Auckland win the NZ title at Gisborne next February that we'll see similar rules put in place for the Stockcar Teams Champs as well. Barry B Different format again Barry. SNZ controlled title? Totally agree with your points. Make a rule and people try to find a way around it, lol. And we digress; go the Tigers. I'll put your points to a committee member and see their reaction. |
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Post by percy on Nov 28, 2015 12:03:36 GMT 12
It's ok Barry I know who the Tigers are
81n Craig Boote
82n Dave Hewitt
83n Brendan Higgins
84n Share Harwood
85n Dale Ewers
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2015 12:10:35 GMT 12
It's ok Barry I know who the Tigers are 81n Craig Boote 82n Dave Hewitt 83n Brendan Higgins 84n Share Harwood 85n Dale Ewers I thought Jason Moir was 84n |
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Post by tigersfan on Nov 28, 2015 13:17:21 GMT 12
It's ok Barry I know who the Tigers are 81n Craig Boote 82n Dave Hewitt 83n Brendan Higgins 84n Share Harwood 85n Dale Ewers Not a bad team either lol |
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Post by m8sr8z on Nov 28, 2015 14:50:09 GMT 12
It's ok Barry I know who the Tigers are 81n Craig Boote 82n Dave Hewitt 83n Brendan Higgins 84n Share Harwood 85n Dale Ewers I thought Jason Moir was 84n So after all this you can remember drivers team numbers  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 14:53:29 GMT 12
Only cause this one night in Auckland.... LOL
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Post by teamschampshistorian on Nov 28, 2015 15:17:21 GMT 12
I've tried to refrain from this debate this time around as it really is just rehashing everything that was said in February, but the one thing most people are overlooking is that it's the promoter's event, he sets the terms of entry and teams enter said advertised competition. The promoter sets the dates and he sets the format, the amount of laps to be run in each race, the prize money. He stipulates the class of car to be raced and certain things that the teams must comply with, two being matching bodywork and normal racing numbers. He arranges the draw. It is the promotion's event, put on for the competitors and the fans, yes, but it is the promotion who is in charge of what, where, when and how things happen. A team can't expect to turn up a week early or a week late and expect to compete, just as they can't turn up with seven cars, 10 drivers, an underweight rocket-fuelled flier to use as a runner or a 2000kg Sherman tank to use a block car. The rules are quite clear and 91.666667% of teams understood that last season. If a team is able to flaunt the rules then maybe the promotion should flaunt paying out any prize money due to such teams. Barry B But something like the teams champs is a national title. While the promoter is still allowing use of the track to to drivers, it is SNZ who are in charge in my opinion. And that goes for all national titles under their jurisdiction. If its a regular weekend race, the promoter should be allowed to have specific rules, but if its a national title, the people in charge are the governing body for that sport, just like FIFA would make the rules for a Soccer world cup, not the country hosting it. They would be able to add to those rules, but FIFA would have the last say. But other then that I agree with your points. |
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Post by Go Slideways on Nov 28, 2015 15:19:15 GMT 12
I'm pretty sure that the Teams Champs is a private promotion, not a national title, but I stand to be corrected.
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Post by Smeats on Nov 28, 2015 16:05:32 GMT 12
As Slidey said, it is a private promotion and not an official SNZ National Title. Yes SNZ control the racing side of the meeting like any other normal club meeting but for the Enzed Superstock Teams Nationals, it is the Palmy Promotions who are in control as Barry said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 16:17:10 GMT 12
As Slidey said, it is a private promotion and not an official SNZ National Title. Yes SNZ control the racing side of the meeting like any other normal club meeting but for the Enzed Superstock Teams Nationals, it is the Palmy Promotions who are in control as Barry said. Which is why over the years its been the air nz teams champs, the radio nz teams champs, the Enzed teams champs etc, it's never just been the nz stockcar/superstock teams champs |
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Post by Skorp on Nov 28, 2015 16:21:51 GMT 12
As Slidey said, it is a private promotion and not an official SNZ National Title. Yes SNZ control the racing side of the meeting like any other normal club meeting but for the Enzed Superstock Teams Nationals, it is the Palmy Promotions who are in control as Barry said. I'm pretty sure that the Teams Champs is a private promotion, not a national title, but I stand to be corrected. I believe the coments were in reference to the Stockcar Teams Title, which is treated as an allocated title. However there is still nothing in the rule book that would prevent a promoter from stipulating that individual numbers must be used as far as I can tell. |
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