Les
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Post by Les on Jan 12, 2016 0:06:40 GMT 12
Yep I did. I was just pointing out that according to snz rulebook, they can't refuse entry to someone who had entered (on the assumption they entered on time). Having not entered on time, is the competitors own fault.
As for a "waiting list", who determines who's next in line should someone pull out? Will it be 2NZ, or the next entered/received/opened entry?
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 12, 2016 2:14:33 GMT 12
didnt stratford do the same thing with this title? 180 max, rotorua and palmy both had 7 groups, huntly was always going to be the biggest nz champs because of its location and size of the class there.
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Post by mcfly on Jan 12, 2016 2:22:32 GMT 12
Wow go huntly I see the groups are already allocated with 6 groups of 30 cars. Good prize money on offer, 30k in total I see. Plus 3000g in travel funds for South Island cars and most exciting .....$1000 for the most exciting hit over the weekend. And two repercharges to find the final 6 qualifiers at the start of night 2. Could be some team tactics coming into play to start the finals night off. Sounds like a cracker of an event. Seems silly and unrequired to me to have repercharges on night 2 when you have enough qualifying groups to evenly find all of your required qualifiers on the stated qualifying night. Repercharges should only be used in my opinion when you have an odd number of qualifying groups and therefore cant find all qualifiers on the first night. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 6:18:46 GMT 12
I think you guys are also forgetting the size of our pits.. its not exactly unlimited space!!
We cant just open a field next door like most other tracks either - roadworks for the new freeway on one side, a massive hole across the road and on the other is a bunch of trees making the distance too great for competitors and beside that is the extra carpark for the spectators!
As things stand there are going to be space issues, Im sure they have a plan in mind - but thats a massive number of cars squeezing into a relatively small pit area!
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Post by Tony on Jan 12, 2016 6:37:11 GMT 12
I think you guys are also forgetting the size of our pits.. its not exactly unlimited space!! We cant just open a field next door like most other tracks either - roadworks for the new freeway on one side, a massive hole across the road and on the other is a bunch of trees making the distance too great for competitors and beside that is the extra carpark for the spectators! As things stand there are going to be space issues, Im sure they have a plan in mind - but thats a massive number of cars squeezing into a relatively small pit area! That's a very valid point Rhodesta, especially when you consider the number of competitors now who rock up in buses and trucks. At the North Island Stockcars in Wanganui just before Christmas, space was at a premium, due in part to the space taken up by transporters. |
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Post by insane1 on Jan 12, 2016 6:53:44 GMT 12
whats the story about charging for the thurs night practice ,is that even allowed under snz rules.?.
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Post by stockyracer on Jan 12, 2016 6:59:03 GMT 12
I'd be keen to know what the total entry number could have been just for the records. If the cap is 180, then how many after that have they turned away.
Can anyone in the know help.
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Post by insane1 on Jan 12, 2016 7:14:14 GMT 12
just had a read of the latest snz rule book ,under rule M3-10-4 AN ADMISSON FEE cannot be charged for a practice wich the thurs night is .
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Post by Skorp on Jan 12, 2016 7:33:39 GMT 12
I think you guys are also forgetting the size of our pits.. its not exactly unlimited space!! We cant just open a field next door like most other tracks either - roadworks for the new freeway on one side, a massive hole across the road and on the other is a bunch of trees making the distance too great for competitors and beside that is the extra carpark for the spectators! As things stand there are going to be space issues, Im sure they have a plan in mind - but thats a massive number of cars squeezing into a relatively small pit area! Oh I understand the space issues, even though hear at Palmy we have a couple of spare fields we can use for extra space is required. I just presonally think an limit should have been advertised on the entry form so that those with late entries were aware that they may miss out due to space limits |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 12, 2016 7:40:14 GMT 12
It sounds like it all depends on if the entry was received prior to cut off. If so, then he has to be in. If not, then promoters discretion. Good on Huntly for enforcing the cut off date. So often competitors seem to think she'll be right, they will still let me in.
As for pit space, maybe this is one championship that you shouldn't put in for if you can't house the competitors. It is likely this would be the only championship where this would be an issue. As stated they will probably have a plan. It is not inconceivable that 200 plus cars could have entered prior to cut off.
It sure will be an intense championship.
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Post by mudman on Jan 12, 2016 8:27:04 GMT 12
ya'll seem to be forgetting that the online entry form was only one piece to the entry puzzle. there was also an entry fee dont pay until that is paid your not entered. there has been local guys miss out due to not getting in on time or not paying the entry fee. its good to see huntly take this stand. it was the easiest entry form, being all online no stamp and envelope required. if the 1nz, 2nz or or 999i was really that keen on entering they would have done it months ago.
if the 2nz hadnt of missed out and it was poor old 999i (apologies if thats a real driver) would you still be kicking up a stink or is it only unfair because 2nz failed to get his entry in on time because he intended to be superstock racing by now?
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Post by 00crewchief00 on Jan 12, 2016 8:39:25 GMT 12
Huntly has a rather unforgiving wall so this could get very messy and keep the welding bay full!
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Post by regulus on Jan 12, 2016 9:02:51 GMT 12
At other championships some cars do not get through scrutineering and this may be the case with 180 cars entered. If I was near the top of waiting list I would take the gamble and have my car ready to slip in. This meeting is at capacity perhaps a qualifying system needs to put in place prior to this championship occurring.
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Post by 00crewchief00 on Jan 12, 2016 9:38:20 GMT 12
Wat if each tracks champs actually meant something towards this meeting?
Say top 5 or so from each track that run stockcars make it in?
And u run it home track only? Or have out of towners, but the first few home cars qualify.
I think there r 17 tracks with stockcars.
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 12, 2016 10:08:54 GMT 12
I think you guys are also forgetting the size of our pits.. its not exactly unlimited space!! We cant just open a field next door like most other tracks either - roadworks for the new freeway on one side, a massive hole across the road and on the other is a bunch of trees making the distance too great for competitors and beside that is the extra carpark for the spectators! As things stand there are going to be space issues, Im sure they have a plan in mind - but thats a massive number of cars squeezing into a relatively small pit area! That's a very valid point Rhodesta, especially when you consider the number of competitors now who rock up in buses and trucks. At the North Island Stockcars in Wanganui just before Christmas, space was at a premium, due in part to the space taken up by transporters. wanguani pits wernt full, there was space in there, stockcars take up way less space than superstocks, now there transporters, jeepers. |
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Post by Wiseowl on Jan 12, 2016 11:19:44 GMT 12
I think you guys are also forgetting the size of our pits.. its not exactly unlimited space!! We cant just open a field next door like most other tracks either - roadworks for the new freeway on one side, a massive hole across the road and on the other is a bunch of trees making the distance too great for competitors and beside that is the extra carpark for the spectators! As things stand there are going to be space issues, Im sure they have a plan in mind - but thats a massive number of cars squeezing into a relatively small pit area! Knowing all of the above .... Does that mean a track should'nt apply for such a BIG Event There's a "can of worms for you " |
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Post by quadzilla on Jan 12, 2016 13:19:26 GMT 12
Originally, when Huntly first bided for this Championship they wanted to host this Championship with the format being run over a week.
I am not too sure on how exactly the format was detailed, but it was something like this...the first two days consist of qualifying, the third day no racing allowing all competitors to fix & repair their cars, the fourth day running numerous last chance repercharge races for those missing out the first time around to advance to a series of semi final races, from there it's on to the finals on the last day.
I believe the club first lodged this format in mind of a "true champion" to be found. Too long we have seen Championships over the years where drivers have fell victim to a spin, or a flat tyre or getting taken out.When lodged, SNZ didn't approve of it thus the traditional 3x heats per group with top 5 format will be used. Also, with understanding that this can be hard on the competitors with accommodation costs, repairs and work commitments etc.
With Fulton Hogan next door already beginning work on the new Motorway, the land which the current Administration site sit's on still belongs to the Huntly club and this will used as additional pits for the NZ Championship. In addition to the existing pits I'm sure this is more then enough to house all of the competitors although it will be chocka.
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Post by Wiseowl on Jan 12, 2016 13:26:52 GMT 12
GREAT STUFF and WELL EXPLAINED
Cheers
WISEOWL
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Post by BarryB on Jan 12, 2016 13:32:15 GMT 12
Yes, the SNZ Rule Book only allows for two-day meetings. This may one day need a variation for Stockcars only. No other class needs more than two days to fairly decide a champion.
Barry B
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 12, 2016 13:55:56 GMT 12
Yes, the SNZ Rule Book only allows for two-day meetings. This may one day need a variation for Stockcars only. No other class needs more than two days to fairly decide a champion. Barry B stockcar teams as well, if every track puts up a team hell would break lose. |
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