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Post by moko592 on Jan 26, 2016 15:02:09 GMT 12
Is there gonna be a live stream for both nights ?
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Post by Row on Jan 26, 2016 15:26:49 GMT 12
As far as I am aware from reading other forums there is no live stream of this even. Stand to be corrected if someone knows more.
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Post by 00crewchief00 on Jan 26, 2016 15:36:05 GMT 12
Track cant get good internet or something of that nature i believe.
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Post by matthew7 on Jan 26, 2016 22:16:23 GMT 12
What about speedway live laps?
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Post by bikeboy on Jan 27, 2016 8:29:38 GMT 12
Track cant get good internet or something of that nature i believe. and with providers getting streams stolen and put on periscope, there will be less of them willing to take the risk, |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 27, 2016 17:43:27 GMT 12
Track cant get good internet or something of that nature i believe. and with providers getting streams stolen and put on periscope, there will be less of them willing to take the risk, what the hell is periscope |
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Post by bikeboy on Jan 27, 2016 20:40:13 GMT 12
and with providers getting streams stolen and put on periscope, there will be less of them willing to take the risk, what the hell is periscope its a social media that makes your camera phone into a web cam, so you can send anything out to the web while filming live, |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 27, 2016 20:46:28 GMT 12
what the hell is periscope its a social media that makes your camera phone into a web cam, so you can send anything out to the web while filming live, wow technology ae far to advanced for me lol |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 28, 2016 6:10:39 GMT 12
Up Periscope
Barry B
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Post by mobilechicane on Jan 28, 2016 11:52:56 GMT 12
well then the stream hasnt been stolen,,,there have been other streams from individuals..question is can they send enough data fast enough to make it watchable...im guessing they are recording a race then sending it? if you can go live on your phone how is it then that there have been about 6 years or more of problems and a dude needs a truck load of gear to operate.
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Post by Admin on Jan 28, 2016 12:35:51 GMT 12
well then the stream hasnt been stolen,,,there have been other streams from individuals..question is can they send enough data fast enough to make it watchable...im guessing they are recording a race then sending it? if you can go live on your phone how is it then that there have been about 6 years or more of problems and a dude needs a truck load of gear to operate. I dare say they were watching the stream but using an app on their phone to broadcast it live again to other people. Quality most likely would have been crap and it's erroneous to think the 20 people who watched would have been paying customers otherwise. Periscope is mentioned in this case but there are others that have been around for ages and others that have vanished. I have ustream on my phone and can quickly stream anything the phone's camera can see but it aint pretty. If a stolen feed is discovered the rights owner can contact the streaming provider to get it stopped. It's something that has almost always happened and probably always will. When people get too carried away with it there are legal remedies. And most everyone reading this would have watched a stolen stream at some stage, knowingly or otherwise. |
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Post by Nigel on Jan 28, 2016 16:22:31 GMT 12
Tracks need bum's on seats to make these big meetings work. And when I say "work", I mean create an appropriate atmosphere that only a big crowd can produce and obviously to cover the massive cost of said big events and also the expenses of lesser meetings when only the diehards go to watch.
I will become a strong advocate for live streaming major events when there is a reliable capability of providing the following;
1. When Live Streaming is a definite "2nd Choice" to actually being there.
2. A "secure", high quality video/sound stream, so that the product received is exactly what is expected when being paid for, and can't be "stolen".
3. The capability to target the locations for live streaming. i.e. In simplistic terms, if an Event is in the North Island, then Live Streaming is available only in the South Island and delayed (by say 24hr's) in the North Island and vice versa, of course.
For me personally, if I want to see an Event, I go to it... I have never watched a live stream.
While this may sound harsh, I also don't buy in to the "I can't afford it, so need a live stream" argument, as EVERYONE knows a year in advance (at least) when these major events are on, and where they will be, so for the price of a coffee and/or ciggies a day, a simple savings plan can get you there. Of course, that is the hard way, when a live stream is wayyyyyy easier.
Just my personal 2 cents worth.
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Post by kevin888 on Jan 28, 2016 16:57:36 GMT 12
Tracks need bum's on seats to make these big meetings work. And when I say "work", I mean create an appropriate atmosphere that only a big crowd can produce and obviously to cover the massive cost of said big events and also the expenses of lesser meetings when only the diehards go to watch. I will become a strong advocate for live streaming major events when there is a reliable capability of providing the following; 1. When Live Streaming is a definite "2nd Choice" to actually being there. 2. A "secure", high quality video/sound stream, so that the product received is exactly what is expected when being paid for, and can't be "stolen". 3. The capability to target the locations for live streaming. i.e. In simplistic terms, if an Event is in the North Island, then Live Streaming is available only in the South Island and delayed (by say 24hr's) in the North Island and vice versa, of course. For me personally, if I want to see an Event, I go to it... I have never watched a live stream. While this may sound harsh, I also don't buy in to the "I can't afford it, so need a live stream" argument, as EVERYONE knows a year in advance (at least) when these major events are on, and where they will be, so for the price of a coffee and/or ciggies a day, a simple savings plan can get you there. Of course, that is the hard way, when a live stream is wayyyyyy easier. Just my personal 2 cents worth. Different horses for different courses .its not all about the money as people just can't make it for one reason or another.and yes agree nothing like being there and yes I have watched live stream and you don't always see all the action but every sport has coverage away from the track and yea I know what it cost me to go to Stratford for 2 days and yep people do pick and choose what they go to see live |
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Post by Wildcat on Jan 28, 2016 17:06:45 GMT 12
Tracks need bum's on seats to make these big meetings work. And when I say "work", I mean create an appropriate atmosphere that only a big crowd can produce and obviously to cover the massive cost of said big events and also the expenses of lesser meetings when only the diehards go to watch. I will become a strong advocate for live streaming major events when there is a reliable capability of providing the following; 1. When Live Streaming is a definite "2nd Choice" to actually being there. 2. A "secure", high quality video/sound stream, so that the product received is exactly what is expected when being paid for, and can't be "stolen". 3. The capability to target the locations for live streaming. i.e. In simplistic terms, if an Event is in the North Island, then Live Streaming is available only in the South Island and delayed (by say 24hr's) in the North Island and vice versa, of course. For me personally, if I want to see an Event, I go to it... I have never watched a live stream. While this may sound harsh, I also don't buy in to the "I can't afford it, so need a live stream" argument, as EVERYONE knows a year in advance (at least) when these major events are on, and where they will be, so for the price of a coffee and/or ciggies a day, a simple savings plan can get you there. Of course, that is the hard way, when a live stream is wayyyyyy easier. Just my personal 2 cents worth. Every one has different circumstances ,or situations where it isnt possible to go to the track .Watching live stream wont reduce bums on seats at venues |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 18:17:41 GMT 12
Likewise I don't believe a live stream will reduce bums on seats significantly d for the big meetings, to the contrary as far as revenue goes, it can actually be quite lucrative.
It's the smaller meetings that it can affect bums on seats without the offsetting equivalent revenue.
What really REALLY HATE tho is when the ppl at home know far more that the ppl at the track. That's why EVERY track NEEDS an Fm transmitter for their commentary.
I know live streaming is a big hurdle to get over for clubs who have been shy of them. But don't be scared, you maybe suprised at the revenue, as long as your track has the means to provide a reasonable stream.
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Post by Tapped on Jan 28, 2016 18:27:29 GMT 12
Agreed, a live stream wont reduce bums on seats, many cant attend for various reasons. Granted some tracks cant provide a reliable stream due to infrastructure, location, or just an unwillingness to 'have a crack'. Live streams are a way of future-proofing the sport to ensure it grows and doesnt stay in the 70's and 80's any longer than it needs too.
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Post by beachboy on Jan 28, 2016 18:56:11 GMT 12
Tracks need bum's on seats to make these big meetings work. And when I say "work", I mean create an appropriate atmosphere that only a big crowd can produce and obviously to cover the massive cost of said big events and also the expenses of lesser meetings when only the diehards go to watch. I will become a strong advocate for live streaming major events when there is a reliable capability of providing the following; 1. When Live Streaming is a definite "2nd Choice" to actually being there. 2. A "secure", high quality video/sound stream, so that the product received is exactly what is expected when being paid for, and can't be "stolen". 3. The capability to target the locations for live streaming. i.e. In simplistic terms, if an Event is in the North Island, then Live Streaming is available only in the South Island and delayed (by say 24hr's) in the North Island and vice versa, of course. For me personally, if I want to see an Event, I go to it... I have never watched a live stream. While this may sound harsh, I also don't buy in to the "I can't afford it, so need a live stream" argument, as EVERYONE knows a year in advance (at least) when these major events are on, and where they will be, so for the price of a coffee and/or ciggies a day, a simple savings plan can get you there. Of course, that is the hard way, when a live stream is wayyyyyy easier. Just my personal 2 cents worth. With some of points you have made regarding live streaming I sure hope people don't travel for hours only to be turned away because of over crowding at Huntly |
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Post by Skorp on Jan 28, 2016 19:01:47 GMT 12
Tracks need bum's on seats to make these big meetings work. And when I say "work", I mean create an appropriate atmosphere that only a big crowd can produce and obviously to cover the massive cost of said big events and also the expenses of lesser meetings when only the diehards go to watch. And for the big meetings, I don't think that is going to be much of a problem. Everyone I know would rather be watching live at the track than stuck at home watching a live stream. I will become a strong advocate for live streaming major events when there is a reliable capability of providing the following; 1. When Live Streaming is a definite "2nd Choice" to actually being there. IMO, this is already the case. If I can be at the track watching, then I will. 2. A "secure", high quality video/sound stream, so that the product received is exactly what is expected when being paid for, and can't be "stolen". It will never be completely secure as there will always be ways around it (as we recently found out) and even then, there is still the issue of those at the track using tablets/smartphones to stream it live from the track (and blocking the cell signals is illegal). I do however think we could be doing more about the quality of the feed itself, including doing more to educate users on the different factors that can effect the stream to try and cut down on the number of complaints due to a user own internet connection (I'm not saying that's always the cause, but from reading these boards, there is always at least one person trying to stream a major event that is getting a choppy stream while others are getting it crystal clear). 3. The capability to target the locations for live streaming. i.e. In simplistic terms, if an Event is in the North Island, then Live Streaming is available only in the South Island and delayed (by say 24hr's) in the North Island and vice versa, of course. I think for the big events we need to do what the NFL does where a game isn't available on TV locally until a certain percentage of tickets have been sold. If 50% of the available tickets don't sell in advance, then there is no stream, and the stream isn't even mentioned as an option until a day or two before the event. For me personally, if I want to see an Event, I go to it... I have never watched a live stream. While this may sound harsh, I also don't buy in to the "I can't afford it, so need a live stream" argument, as EVERYONE knows a year in advance (at least) when these major events are on, and where they will be, so for the price of a coffee and/or ciggies a day, a simple savings plan can get you there. Of course, that is the hard way, when a live stream is wayyyyyy easier. Just my personal 2 cents worth. For me it's not just about being able to afford to go, it's also about not being able to travel. I have a family who aren't as fanatic about speedway as I am so I'm often attending on my own and this means that traveling to other tracks is not really an option most of the time especially as we only have one vehicle and my partner works until 6pm on Saturdays. Otherwise, I'd be in Huntly right now stalking the streets and jumping up and down in excitement |
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Post by mcfly on Jan 28, 2016 21:20:08 GMT 12
Tracks need bum's on seats to make these big meetings work. And when I say "work", I mean create an appropriate atmosphere that only a big crowd can produce and obviously to cover the massive cost of said big events and also the expenses of lesser meetings when only the diehards go to watch. I will become a strong advocate for live streaming major events when there is a reliable capability of providing the following; 1. When Live Streaming is a definite "2nd Choice" to actually being there. 2. A "secure", high quality video/sound stream, so that the product received is exactly what is expected when being paid for, and can't be "stolen". 3. The capability to target the locations for live streaming. i.e. In simplistic terms, if an Event is in the North Island, then Live Streaming is available only in the South Island and delayed (by say 24hr's) in the North Island and vice versa, of course. For me personally, if I want to see an Event, I go to it... I have never watched a live stream. While this may sound harsh, I also don't buy in to the "I can't afford it, so need a live stream" argument, as EVERYONE knows a year in advance (at least) when these major events are on, and where they will be, so for the price of a coffee and/or ciggies a day, a simple savings plan can get you there. Of course, that is the hard way, when a live stream is wayyyyyy easier. Just my personal 2 cents worth. Reasonable arguments I suppose. Personally I would prefer to be at all major meetings rather than watching a live stream. Maybe I will when tracks can guarantee that my travel and accommodation costs wont be wasted by weather (cant afford to go to the same meeting twice), and that when I get there I do not have to line up at mid day, and spend the afternoon sitting in the sun just to ensure I get a seat. Also need the tracks to guarantee that they will not try to squeeze 8000 people into a 6000 person venue, after all it is surely not too much to ask to be able to site comfortably and actually be able to see what you have paid for. To restrict live streaming to only the opposite island to where the venue is will not increase 'bums on seats', and is incredibly short sighted in my view. |
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Post by Nigel on Jan 28, 2016 21:50:20 GMT 12
Just want to make something clear. These are my personal thoughts, not Huntly Speedways.
No live stream at Huntly because getting signal out is nigh impossible & when we get a reasonable crowd cell phones don't work properly either. Local cell tower can't cope, apparently.
Cheers.
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