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Post by sonic33 on Jan 31, 2017 18:33:30 GMT 12
Is it winner of A vs D and B vs C for the semi finals? Isnt highest points v 4th highest points 2nd v 3rd on points? OK awesome thank you. Wide open then. Thats not how it should be haha.
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 31, 2017 18:36:10 GMT 12
Isnt highest points v 4th highest points 2nd v 3rd on points? so nelson vs whoever ... sounds bout right aye kiatoa . haha Here is a song for you
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Post by tigersfan on Jan 31, 2017 18:55:25 GMT 12
kaitoa just to jog your short memory ....
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 31, 2017 19:00:51 GMT 12
kaitoa just to jog your short memory .... wow didnt realise they had video back then....must have been a super 8 camera probably on Beta video....Brendan Higgins ... one of the very best would be in my team of all time, No Higgins now though
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 31, 2017 19:05:38 GMT 12
kaitoa just to jog your short memory .... Tigersfan this is Jimmy. Jimmy turns 7 in March, Jimmy has never seen the Tigers win the Team Champs......poor Jimmy
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Post by graemeh on Jan 31, 2017 19:06:24 GMT 12
Sorry but if pnspeed (Puk) says highest v 4th highest and 2nd Highest v 3rd highest, then thats what it is. Although he may have mis-quoted the correct reply causing confusion. Last year it was A v D and B v C
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Post by graemeh on Jan 31, 2017 19:17:49 GMT 12
Sorry but if pnspeed (Puk) says highest v 4th highest and 2nd Highest v 3rd highest, then thats what it is. Although he may have mis-quoted the correct reply causing confusion. Last year it was A v D and B v C Thinking about the semi-final line-up I think Highest v Lowest (4th) and 2nd V 3rd is actually a better option in my opinion.
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Post by tigersfan on Jan 31, 2017 19:26:51 GMT 12
kaitoa just to jog your short memory .... Tigersfan this is Jimmy. Jimmy turns 7 in March, Jimmy has never seen the Tigers win the Team Champs......poor Jimmy poor Jimmy looks like he comes from Palmy with that hair cut ...poor Jimmy indeed
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Post by mordecai on Jan 31, 2017 19:32:40 GMT 12
Sorry but if pnspeed (Puk) says highest v 4th highest and 2nd Highest v 3rd highest, then thats what it is. Although he may have mis-quoted the correct reply causing confusion. Last year it was A v D and B v C oh ok they must have changed it from the last 5 years
im thinking your confused with night 2
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 31, 2017 19:35:29 GMT 12
Tigersfan this is Jimmy. Jimmy turns 7 in March, Jimmy has never seen the Tigers win the Team Champs......poor Jimmy poor Jimmy looks like he comes from Palmy with that hair cut ...poor Jimmy indeed bad haircut yes, but a 17 time champ smile.. wouldnt you agree
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 31, 2017 19:37:34 GMT 12
Sorry but if pnspeed (Puk) says highest v 4th highest and 2nd Highest v 3rd highest, then thats what it is. Although he may have mis-quoted the correct reply causing confusion. Last year it was A v D and B v C oh ok they must have changed it from the last 5 years
im thinking your confused with night 2
Now your backtracking faster than the tigers
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Post by mordecai on Jan 31, 2017 19:40:27 GMT 12
oh ok they must have changed it from the last 5 years
im thinking your confused with night 2
Now your backtracking faster than the tigers im stil sure im correct tho
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Post by BarryB on Jan 31, 2017 21:28:52 GMT 12
Sorry but if pnspeed (Puk) says highest v 4th highest and 2nd Highest v 3rd highest, then thats what it is. Although he may have mis-quoted the correct reply causing confusion. Last year it was A v D and B v C Thinking about the semi-final line-up I think Highest v Lowest (4th) and 2nd V 3rd is actually a better option in my opinion. It is supposed to be 4th vs 1st and 3rd vs 2nd every year, however the year the 60 Minutes doco was made there was a mistake in the programme with 1st vs 2nd and 3rd vs 4th (form memory, a mistake was made anyway), which give the wrong semi finals that year. I'm not sure where there have been any A vs D and B vs C, but the 1st vs 4th is to give at least a perceived advantage for finishing on top overall after the 12 heats, by meeting the lowest qualifier first up on Night 2. Most other sports do similar things during their playoff series. Barry B
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Post by mordecai on Jan 31, 2017 21:30:44 GMT 12
Thinking about the semi-final line-up I think Highest v Lowest (4th) and 2nd V 3rd is actually a better option in my opinion. It is supposed to be 4th vs 1st and 3rd vs 2nd every year, however the year the 60 Minutes doco was made there was a mistake in the programme with 1st vs 2nd and 3rd vs 4th (form memory, a mistake was made anyway), which give the wrong semi finals that year. I'm not sure where there have been any A vs D and B vs C, but the 1st vs 4th is to give at least a perceived advantage for finishing on top overall after the 12 heats, by meeting the lowest qualifier first up. Barry B dude go and look at the programmes from the last few years its a v d and b v c
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Post by mordecai on Jan 31, 2017 21:31:21 GMT 12
It is supposed to be 4th vs 1st and 3rd vs 2nd every year, however the year the 60 Minutes doco was made there was a mistake in the programme with 1st vs 2nd and 3rd vs 4th (form memory, a mistake was made anyway), which give the wrong semi finals that year. I'm not sure where there have been any A vs D and B vs C, but the 1st vs 4th is to give at least a perceived advantage for finishing on top overall after the 12 heats, by meeting the lowest qualifier first up. Barry B dude go and look at the programmes from the last few years its a v d and b v c ill even wager a hotdog and chips and on it
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Post by BarryB on Jan 31, 2017 21:37:06 GMT 12
It is supposed to be 4th vs 1st and 3rd vs 2nd every year, however the year the 60 Minutes doco was made there was a mistake in the programme with 1st vs 2nd and 3rd vs 4th (form memory, a mistake was made anyway), which give the wrong semi finals that year. I'm not sure where there have been any A vs D and B vs C, but the 1st vs 4th is to give at least a perceived advantage for finishing on top overall after the 12 heats, by meeting the lowest qualifier first up. Barry B dude go and look at the programmes from the last few years its a v d and b v c Dude, I haven't been there for the last few years. I just know how it was discussed and agreed to some years ago, as to how it should work. If there have been A vs D and B vs C in between time, there's obviously been mistakes made, or somebody changed their mind. It wasn't supposed to be known who was racing who in the semi finals until all 12 races has been decided, and the winner of the final group could still slot into either 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th position overall in many cases. Barry B
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 31, 2017 21:40:58 GMT 12
for some reason I seem to remember A vs D and B vs C but that may have been lots of years ago. I am not a fan of points but it seems it is a necessity for qualifying. Either way the system is out there for all. Thats why finals are more cut throat cos it is first cross the line. I know the winner takes more points than the rest combined but night one is accumulation. In saying that smashing ya opposition to pulp also helps.
I am lucky, I get two Xmases each year. Palmy teams and Bathurst.
Not many sleeps to go.
Go Gizzy or Busters. Same group ( again)so hopefully one will be in the top 4.
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2017 21:58:12 GMT 12
It is supposed to be 4th vs 1st and 3rd vs 2nd every year, however the year the 60 Minutes doco was made there was a mistake in the programme with 1st vs 2nd and 3rd vs 4th (form memory, a mistake was made anyway), which give the wrong semi finals that year. I'm not sure where there have been any A vs D and B vs C, but the 1st vs 4th is to give at least a perceived advantage for finishing on top overall after the 12 heats, by meeting the lowest qualifier first up. Barry B dude go and look at the programmes from the last few years its a v d and b v c and things must stay being done the same way for how long?. If the promotion tell us how it's being done this year as pnspeed did then let it rest.
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Jan 31, 2017 22:02:07 GMT 12
for some reason I seem to remember A vs D and B vs C but that may have been lots of years ago. I am not a fan of points but it seems it is a necessity for qualifying. Either way the system is out there for all. Thats why finals are more cut throat cos it is first cross the line. I know the winner takes more points than the rest combined but night one is accumulation. In saying that smashing ya opposition to pulp also helps. I am lucky, I get two Xmases each year. Palmy teams and Bathurst. Not many sleeps to go. Go Gizzy or Busters. Same group ( again)so hopefully one will be in the top 4. Get a team manager to comment on here as its surely on the entry form. They get informed of the proposed schedule of races etc, depending on the format. Or maybe check the same program that the draw photo come from at the start of this thread. It has obvi been printed and was more then likely given to the printer before the hyped up live draw at the saloon champs in auckland that didn't occur. Sonic...at a guess that would be Giants over Baypark....cos you're less likely to win with lawnmower(s) in ya team haha
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Post by graemeh on Jan 31, 2017 22:05:40 GMT 12
I cant find every programme for the last 6 years but the ones I could find seemed to indicate that when there is 12 teams or 4 groups its A v D and B v C but when there is an odd number of teams they use the top four point scorers, 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. Hardly matters that much will be great racing either way. The other point that makes A v D and B V C more likely is the possibility of a group winner scoring less points than two teams in another group. Goodnight
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