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Post by mattd on Jan 1, 2018 15:33:41 GMT 12
They brought the tarps upon themselves by selling reserved seating that wasn't reserved seating. If I am paying for a reserved seat I would be expecting a reserved and numbered seat not a crapshoot lucky dip at any old seat in a grandstand
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Post by stikshift87 on Jan 1, 2018 16:29:29 GMT 12
I'm anti tarps. They looked like they were left out overnight so no one else on the second night had the opportunity to sit in that space. Get rid of them. If you want reserved seating pay for it like the rest of us I think they're doing a very good job of providing seating considering the issues outside the club and promotions control totally agree geoff regarding tarps & blankets first in first served get rid of the darn things  The worst situation regarding Tarps was the pitcrew/drivers stand. The locals had a whole lot of seats tarped off for wives, girlfriends, children, friends and family in the stand next to the pit exit gate. This should be for drivers and crew only who do a swap in swap out as the races progress when theirs comes around. |
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Post by haydenmlambarth on Jan 1, 2018 18:27:29 GMT 12
Just on the sound system. Malcolm and I were very frustrated at the issues we were having. We haven't had an issue all season until this weekend. Night one we were getting some awful screeching which was feedback from the livestream. Once we tracked down the interference we got it sorted. Night Two there were problems with volume we have had an issue with the volumes being played with and we are trying to sort it. We appreciated your patience while we sorted it
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Post by bernie on Jan 1, 2018 20:00:42 GMT 12
Just on the sound system. Malcolm and I were very frustrated at the issues we were having. We haven't had an issue all season until this weekend. Night one we were getting some awful screeching which was feedback from the livestream. Once we tracked down the interference we got it sorted. Night Two there were problems with volume we have had an issue with the volumes being played with and we are trying to sort it. We appreciated your patience while we sorted it . People playing with those nobs after set up is an old problem. Everyones an expert. A couple of times some one trying to adjust the pit mike would adjust the wrong nob and mess things up. Or someone would complain that it was to loud or to quiet on the balcony, then everyone would have a play. Assuming technicians arent around all night to constantly adjust things. How about taking a photograph of the correct settings each race day, and emailing them to some one who will be there. They can can correct the nobs if some bugga plays with them on the night. just a thought |
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Post by steelpanther on Jan 1, 2018 20:41:42 GMT 12
I attended both nights and firstly I was impressed with the efforts being made with the seating. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear but those behind the scenes sure are trying. Going to WP hasn't been the same since you can no longer sit in the upper grandstand which was one of the best views at any track. You didn't even need to worry about the water truck but agree with a more ground level view these days it needs to be removed while the racing is on. I sat in the newly erected grand stand on turn two and it was great. On the downside it did seem to take an eternity between some of the races.
Overall all it's a thumbs up to the WP promotion from me. Only thumbs down was the performance of the Alleycats. It just wasn't their weekend.
Thanks to all those involved for the all round efforts being made as we head towards 13/14 January.
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Post by beachboy on Jan 2, 2018 9:38:40 GMT 12
Also funny to see that Bruce allows two clubs he promotes to wear the triple digit confusing numbers that he doesn't like. I don't imagine any promoter in the country has any input into the numbers their Stockcar team wears. Promoters have 27,000 better things to worry about. For purposes of this title it is a SNZ allocated title so local rules such as no number changes can't be applied. Bruce runs the biggest meeting in the country and has plenty of input in what numbers are worn. SNZ don't decide what numbers teams must run at this NZ title. |
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Post by pokerwork on Jan 2, 2018 10:14:57 GMT 12
To Geoff Public and roxcyford, there is many reason for people to take tarps and blankets to speedway, not just to save seats for there friends and families, we use our tarps and blanket for protection from dirt/mud from the track, and the wind and cold, and if needed the rain. My mother is 86 and a big speedway fan, and if tarps and blanket were banned, she would no longer be able to go and watch the racing. So if you want a good spot get there early like we do, 1:30pm on Fri, 2pm on Sat, and most of those tarps were not left over night, they were put in the morning by the people in the campervans parked in the carpark. I do think some people do go to extreme and take up more space than they need, and that wrong. And if you ban tarps and blankets they will just use something else to save seats, like chairs, umbrella's, and clothing.
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Post by tank11 on Jan 2, 2018 10:45:13 GMT 12
To Geoff Public and roxcyford, there is many reason for people to take tarps and blankets to speedway, not just to save seats for there friends and families, we use our tarps and blanket for protection from dirt/mud from the track, and the wind and cold, and if needed the rain. My mother is 86 and a big speedway fan, and if tarps and blanket were banned, she would no longer be able to go and watch the racing. So if you want a good spot get there early like we do, 1:30pm on Fri, 2pm on Sat, and most of those tarps were not left over night, they were put in the morning by the people in the campervans parked in the carpark. I do think some people do go to extreme and take up more space than they need, and that wrong. And if you ban tarps and blankets they will just use something else to save seats, like chairs, umbrella's, and clothing. LOL, so everyone saying about saving seats with tarps and blankets is true, what you just said about your 86 yr old mother is an excuse to save seat space from someone who has turned up before your lot, but can't get a seat as you have pre-booked them, as you have camped there the night. Since when did the camping privilege give anyone the right to commander seating from the general public? If your mother is feeling the cold, wrap up in the blanket, being on the ground won't keep her warm? |
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Post by pokerwork on Jan 2, 2018 12:09:05 GMT 12
My mother sits on a chair not on the ground and the blanket keeps her very warm, thank you. I have never camped all night at any track, if someone else is sitting in my favourite spot when I get there, I don't get upset and throw my toys everywhere, and demand the track banned tarps and blankets, I just move somewhere else to get a seat. If someone wants to stay all night to save seats, good on them. First in first serviced. And no I wasn't one of the campers and I don't own a campervan.
Why do people who come late expects everyone to move a let them have a seat?
Robert Long. a member of the general public.
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Post by tank11 on Jan 2, 2018 13:33:20 GMT 12
My mother sits on a chair not on the ground and the blanket keeps her very warm, thank you. I have never camped all night at any track, if someone else is sitting in my favourite spot when I get there, I don't get upset and throw my toys everywhere, and demand the track banned tarps and blankets, I just move somewhere else to get a seat. If someone wants to stay all night to save seats, good on them. First in first serviced. And no I wasn't one of the campers and I don't own a campervan. Why do people who come late expects everyone to move a let them have a seat?Robert Long. a member of the general public. No they expect that large swathes of seats taken by tarps etc not be there, just so others who come even later can have a seat. |
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Post by go29 on Jan 2, 2018 14:49:51 GMT 12
The park was looking really good. A couple of things I think would be good to keep in mind for the NZ supers...
Points - people want regular points updates and where possible give them when there isn't anything happening. Too often the commentators think it's a good idea to give some points while superstocks are revving their nuts off on the way to the grid.
Tow trucks - better communication. They got the third tow truck in and then it just sat in the infield while the other 2 went back and forth carting cars.
Supports - please put a decent support class(s) on. I don't pay good money to go to a big meeting and watch one modified drive round.
The car park seemed to be well run and the food and drinks were great! Also the seating was really good. See ya in a week and a bit WP!
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Post by Roxcyford on Jan 2, 2018 16:56:52 GMT 12
To Geoff Public and roxcyford, there is many reason for people to take tarps and blankets to speedway, not just to save seats for there friends and families, we use our tarps and blanket for protection from dirt/mud from the track, and the wind and cold, and if needed the rain. My mother is 86 and a big speedway fan, and if tarps and blanket were banned, she would no longer be able to go and watch the racing. So if you want a good spot get there early like we do, 1:30pm on Fri, 2pm on Sat, and most of those tarps were not left over night, they were put in the morning by the people in the campervans parked in the carpark. I do think some people do go to extreme and take up more space than they need, and that wrong. And if you ban tarps and blankets they will just use something else to save seats, like chairs, umbrella's, and clothing. LOL, so everyone saying about saving seats with tarps and blankets is true, what you just said about your 86 yr old mother is an excuse to save seat space from someone who has turned up before your lot, but can't get a seat as you have pre-booked them, as you have camped there the night. Since when did the camping privilege give anyone the right to commander seating from the general public? If your mother is feeling the cold, wrap up in the blanket, being on the ground won't keep her warm? well said tank you are so correct to pokerwork the tarp in front of me took out the grass area on turn 2 & was stapled into the ground so how can you use it to protect yourself from the cold & flying debris when about 20 people are sitting on it come on  |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 2, 2018 18:58:17 GMT 12
If no one on the tarp, get rid of it. Throw it away. When people come to sit there plead ignorance. Different if a person is sitting there minding the turf.
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Post by steelpanther on Jan 2, 2018 19:01:19 GMT 12
Roxcyford wasn't that where all the Stratford Stormers supporters were sitting?
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Post by Roxcyford on Jan 2, 2018 21:10:19 GMT 12
Roxcyford wasn't that where all the Stratford Stormers supporters were sitting? steelpanther i don,t care where they were from stratford,america,or the australian underbelly, nobody has the selfish right to go in there stake there ground and then buggar off for the rest of the afternoon,when you have reserved seating as an option. like it is said in other post if you don,t want to sit around for 2 hours or so to get the seat you want go pay the extra and reserve a seat also staking your peice of ground will wipe out the need for reserved seating in the future as others will start doing the same thing, i commend gisborne for making a stand to wipe this crap out  |
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Post by Palmyfan4ever on Jan 3, 2018 7:34:51 GMT 12
Auckland has such a anti smoking policy yet you can smoke in the stands at WP. Had to sit near a chain smoker making the night unpleasant. Most others got up and smoked near the entrance but not him. It floated right to you and kids breathed it right in.
2. If results not available let people know we were left in the dark on what was happening and had to look elsewhere for answers. 3. More tow trucks. Bruce should know PN has 4 to clear the track quicky as they need to work on thier cars he's not a novice at this. 4. People keep mentioning lots of food choice but there was one food outlet that I could find, then drinks. More variety of hot food choice vans.
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 3, 2018 13:22:54 GMT 12
Auckland has such a anti smoking policy yet you can smoke in the stands at WP. Had to sit near a chain smoker making the night unpleasant. Most others got up and smoked near the entrance but not him. It floated right to you and kids breathed it right in. 2. If results not available let people know we were left in the dark on what was happening and had to look elsewhere for answers. 3. More tow trucks. Bruce should know PN has 4 to clear the track quicky as they need to work on thier cars he's not a novice at this. 4. People keep mentioning lots of food choice but there was one food outlet that I could find, then drinks. More variety of hot food choice vans. did you ever say not to smoke? Or just hold it in complain here. Ifor you didn't complain about it the 1st time then that becomes the standard. That becomes accptable. He's in the wrong. He knows it. But why move if you don't have to. Lazy. But we all are a point hence why we do have cars. |
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Post by Palmyfan4ever on Jan 3, 2018 13:29:21 GMT 12
Auckland has such a anti smoking policy yet you can smoke in the stands at WP. Had to sit near a chain smoker making the night unpleasant. Most others got up and smoked near the entrance but not him. It floated right to you and kids breathed it right in. 2. If results not available let people know we were left in the dark on what was happening and had to look elsewhere for answers. 3. More tow trucks. Bruce should know PN has 4 to clear the track quicky as they need to work on thier cars he's not a novice at this. 4. People keep mentioning lots of food choice but there was one food outlet that I could find, then drinks. More variety of hot food choice vans. did you ever say not to smoke? Or just hold it in complain here. Ifor you didn't complain about it the 1st time then that becomes the standard. That becomes accptable. He's in the wrong. He knows it. But why move if you don't have to. Lazy. But we all are a point hence why we do have cars. Yes we did. They have a free smoking policy just most think of others that don't smoke and have kids around. And there were no others seats and if you'd traveled 6 hours and paid a fortune for motel rooms would you let that chase you away. Other tracks that have no smoking in the seats provide a much family oriented night and most smokers will get up and smoke away from others now. I was asked for what made the night unpleasant and provided feedback. Sorry you felt the need to attack mine. |
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 3, 2018 16:35:49 GMT 12
Wasn't attack was supposed to be helpful. Smoking is a hard one.for a club to do something about. As it's hard to catch. 1000s of people. Whow they suppose to watch them all. Hence why I brought up you. You have more of a chance stopping it. And I think you could make your point across in such a way that you would get the result. Smoking is seen as society unacceptable now days. Wolnt be hard or take much for him to apologize and then go ahead and move. Just watch how you word it. And you will get the result yourself. Always works for me. Just tring to be helpful that's all bro
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Post by Palmyfan4ever on Jan 3, 2018 16:46:20 GMT 12
Wasn't attack was supposed to be helpful. Smoking is a hard one.for a club to do something about. As it's hard to catch. 1000s of people. Whow they suppose to watch them all. Hence why I brought up you. You have more of a chance stopping it. And I think you could make your point across in such a way that you would get the result. Smoking is seen as society unacceptable now days. Wolnt be hard or take much for him to apologize and then go ahead and move. Just watch how you word it. And you will get the result yourself. Always works for me. Just tring to be helpful that's all bro Yeah but what I'm trying to say is that WP allows smoking ANYWHERE including in your seat so you can't ask them to move. We need the promoters to make it either all seating smoke free or some seating family areas and those smoke free so you have a choice. WP doesn't give you any choice to ask them to not smoke as thier policy is to allow it anywhere in the facility. We asked the venue the policy and had no come back we did ask him as there was kids around but he wasn't willing and nothing we could do as he was in his right. There was no option to move as it was a full night. The promotors need to look at this policy at ALL tracks. This is not the first one I've had problems with. FAMILIES need areas to seat away. If it's a no smoking area people will alert security to do something. We would have and did but it was allowed at WP. There were other parents that would have as well. Not a removable offense just a stop doing it or you'll have to etc. |
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