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Post by petrolfumes on Nov 20, 2018 16:43:53 GMT 12
Believe this was due to come to a head at Council today :
Anyone in the know please give us mushrooms an update Please
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Post by nakifans on Nov 20, 2018 19:05:15 GMT 12
NZ Herald. Move from Western Springs deferred until council sort out the other stadium issues. Council vote 11 to 10 to defer .
The council B team out voted council A team.
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Post by Admin on Nov 20, 2018 19:12:36 GMT 12
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Post by midway on Nov 20, 2018 19:13:10 GMT 12
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Post by John W. on Nov 20, 2018 19:59:13 GMT 12
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Post by John W. on Nov 20, 2018 20:09:58 GMT 12
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Post by Rota on Nov 20, 2018 20:54:36 GMT 12
darn only one vote in it. Let’s hope this gets sorted soon & out of Springs
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Post by nakifans on Nov 21, 2018 3:34:56 GMT 12
Reading Herald/Stuff/ R.N.Z. reviews of the meeting it appears that the secret deal done was the catalyst for the B team to put the brakes on this deal.
No business analysis done, costing that aren't factual, seem to vary to get votes, and the list goes on.
Eden Park is the mill stone around this whole debacle. It's time the NZRFU were made to buy this stadium, the ratepayers were forced to pay huge money so that they could profit from the RWC.
Every time the council, RFA try to progress forward this dead rubber, debt laden stadium puts the brakes on progress.
Cut the ties with the stadium, turn it into a tent city for the homeless and kill two birds with one stone. Precious neighbours of the park who restrict it's use but command high price's for their properties due to it's proximity to theirs will then realise their attitude is stifling all ratepayers.
Hopefully we can get a transparent outcome from last nights vote and move forward in a cost effective manner that will benefit all ratepayers now and in the future.
Looking into the crystal ball, is speedway a wise investment for the future, are the young one's who hopefully will be filling the seats when we have all departed this earth into speedway.
Has any research been done on age of attendees at speedway meetings. Campervan parking has become a big thing at speedway, which indicates age group going.
Hopefully last nights decision is only a speed bump not a brick wall for speedway in Auckland.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 18:33:26 GMT 12
cost effective?? Are you kidding me?? there has been nothing cost effective since bobble head took over as mayor.A billion here ..ahh sheeyit..a billion there...who cares..we got a million rate payers...A Billion there..all for labourite spazo's to massage their ego's with...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 18:37:15 GMT 12
if bobble head said we arent giving any money to cricket, rugby, soccer, tennis or any other games...we are going to spend it on the old folks who built NZ I would be happy with that...but knowing money is being poured into other sports and speedway gets left out grates on me..worse when it gets given to privateers because they have been able to bamboozle the ignorant and lazy council members and off shoot committees...that really gets me...council or rate payer money should be spent on things owned by the community...not privately owned going concerns!!
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Post by nakifans on Nov 23, 2018 3:07:26 GMT 12
And don't mention the multi millions for the world yachting cup.A lot of rich , spoilt brats who have very clever lawyers and marketing people who come up with these pie in the sky returns that the host nation will receive for their investment so that they can have a play on the water.
Council really hand strung at present, some by their own making and others by their city being chosen as the host venue.
We really as ratepayers haven't seen a return for investment on RWC or last World Yacht Cup etc. Positive waterfront tied up.
The Western Springs debacle has been exactly that, if the proposed joint stadium at WP had been allowed to proceed we could of had a world class venue, which would of required compromise from both current tracks but could of worked, slipped in under the radar and been done, but ego's got in the way and who knows what will happen now to both WP and WS in this review of all stadiums in Auckland.
As sure as night follows day, rates will always keep going skywards .
Perhaps the two tracks need to lease land not owned by council to move forward. The RFA seems to be a bigger problem than the council themselves.
I know that bleating on here or any other forum is like farting against thunder, you don't get heard, but weather local or central government they listen to us at the voting box.
Much has been said that the crowds will drop having to go to Colin Dale, travelling regular on the Waikato expressway it is amazing how busy the Greenfields drift track by Meremere drag strip is.
People will travel if they are serious about their sport, perhaps we need to look to our Aussie counterparts and when you buy tickets for an event public transport is included in many of them.
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Post by nakifans on Nov 23, 2018 6:46:35 GMT 12
Read the article on NZ Herald website.
Auckland Council gets the speedway wobbles over relocating from W/S.
Interesting reading. Seems huge power and ego struggles within council, motorsport issue just a side line.
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Post by woodart on Nov 23, 2018 8:15:25 GMT 12
it seems half of cricket dont want to go to western springs, half do. why is speedway being held hostage by a divided sport that needs boozed spectators and shonky bookmakers to survive?
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Post by Admin on Nov 23, 2018 8:55:43 GMT 12
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Post by midway on Nov 23, 2018 19:31:46 GMT 12
Hosting the Americas cup ,bought multi millions into the whole of this country ,not some rich spoilt brats .And when you visit the viaduct basin ,as it stands to day ,home to the Nz syndicate which i would be very surprised if Naki fans contribution added up to much ,which would you rather have a jungle of old fishing boats ,sewage contamination ,or how it is today for all of us to enjoy ,and safe anchorage for our pleasure craft .. You need to stand for council or even your local ward ,seen you have all the answers ,and show us how the Hardcore Naki fans operate ,not just stand beside the Okato river and watch the boulders wash down and out to sea .. Speedway will survive in Auckland it is and always will be a controversial subject know matter who is in control .... |
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Post by nakifans on Nov 26, 2018 6:38:46 GMT 12
I haven't said that the American Cup doesn't bring in millions to NZ. What I'm saying is that those millions returned hardly exceed the investment. Ministry Of Business, Innovation & Employment report on the 36th America's Cup in 2021.
The cost- benefit analysis for the period of the 36th America's Cup [ excluding any future benefits associated with any new infrastructure, or on going benefits to the marine industry] ranges from 0.997 to 1.14. This cost- benefit ratio is for the economy as a whole, the costs included relate to all parties, including for example the Crown, Auckland Council, Syndicates, Emirates Team NZ, retailers and tourism providers.
Perhaps Midway and his supporters have more inside detailed financial details than this report can provide but if 0.997 to 1.14 is the type of return they happy with so be it.
Must be remembered this is the same council money jar that we as motorsport fans are hoping to dip into to secure the future of the sport in Auckland.
While we have this public open division of open wheel v's the others the opponents within council will feed on this and further block progress. They as councillors have to invest wisely for benefits to all ratepayers and this division plays into their hands.
P.S. Midway, the joy of watching the rubber ducky floating down the Stoney River in a flood at a speed far exceeding Auckland peak hr traffic and for free then having a quite ale in the Stoney River Tavern floats my boat, don't need a pleasure craft moored at Westhaven to polish my ego.
Back to topic, unite and at least appear united to council and maybe speedway will have a future in Auckland or nearby.
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jan 3, 2019 19:57:01 GMT 12
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Post by orapiuwharf on May 16, 2019 18:38:25 GMT 12
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Post by BarryB on May 16, 2019 21:00:23 GMT 12
The funniest thing I read was that Auckland has one too many stadiums, and that stadium is Mount Smart. Considering they host the Warriors AND several huge concerts per year, I would of thought Eden Park or Albany Stadium would of been more of a money drain than Mount Smart.
Now wondering what Speedway's return ratio is nakifans. I suspect it's nowhere near 1.14.
And the talk of Colin Dale going to privateers, I suspect it'll never happen without private funding alongside that of the Council. And no club run operation has that sort of coin. Mind you, the longer it goes on the less likely it is to happen under any circumstances. The current council obviously don't want it to become an election issue...
Barry B
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Post by woodart on May 19, 2019 15:24:24 GMT 12
the stadium that no-one wants to use should be the one axed and turned into high density low income housing. but it has a huge debt hanging over it, and vested interests desperate to keep it going. just like homebush stadium in sydney, the day of the huge stadium is over here as well. dunedin has shown the way.
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