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[maninstand]

Just my 2 cents on team GB. I think the time has come to take some control from frankie and his selections(son,daughters partner) who were not up to it. If an independent GB person chose the team then we would see some quality over here from the likes of Dan Johnson nigel Green Tom Harris to name a few. I'm sure people will say but not everyone wants to come the problem is frankie has to much say in this team and they are going backwards.

[go29]

We were having the same convo last night.. Wainman has the say over who is in and who isnt.. its like anything though, if you imagine a NZ team going to the UK, I can tell ya right now some of our top driver's wouldn't be in the same team unless they got a say on who else was in it and more importantly who else wasn't in it. It would either be the Rees' and their buddies, the Miers and their buddies or Hemi and his buddy...

[maninstand]

Feb 4, 2019 22:02:28 GMT 12 go29 said:

We were having the same convo last night.. Wainman has the say over who is in and who isnt.. its like anything though, if you imagine a NZ team going to the UK, I can tell ya right now some of our top driver's wouldn't be in the same team unless they got a say on who else was in it and more importantly who else wasn't in it. It would either be the Rees' and their buddies, the Miers and their buddies or Hemi and his buddy...

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this. In saying that we wouldn't take drivers over even if they were our buddies who aren't up to it.

[4zfed]

Frankies boy looked like a fish out of water tbh

[Regan O'Brien]

got to remember that i think 3 or 4 hadnt teams raced before so every team has to rebuild somewhere. Now they have the feel for it and if it's the same drivers that come back next season then i would say they would be far better.

[Wildcat]

I thought they went well They finished 6th on points after ist night There where good teams they didn't even make the 2nd nights teams racing

[penman]

Feb 4, 2019 21:26:21 GMT 12 maninstand said:

Just my 2 cents on team GB. I think the time has come to take some control from frankie and his selections(son,daughters partner) who were not up to it. If an independent GB person chose the team then we would see some quality over here from the likes of Dan Johnson nigel Green Tom Harris to name a few. I'm sure people will say but not everyone wants to come the problem is frankie has to much say in this team and they are going backwards.

However, if Wainman is the drive behind organising the team, getting them here, arranging cars and contracts etc, then surely he has every right to have his say as to who comes over. Maybe the team should be named GB Wainman to clear that up, but if other drivers from GB want to get here, then maybe it's up to them (or someone here) to try and arrange that.
If the Rees, the Miers or Hemi (or the Joblins, or whomever it may be) wants to organise a team of drivers to go to the UK and race, they have every right to pick who THEY want to go if they are the ones organising the trip.

[conrod]

I wonder if he still thinks swapping cars on the night is a good tactic seeing he got hurt? the safest part off driving is your seat and fitting 100 %

[maninstand]

Feb 5, 2019 11:07:52 GMT 12 penman said:

Feb 4, 2019 21:26:21 GMT 12 maninstand said:

Just my 2 cents on team GB. I think the time has come to take some control from frankie and his selections(son,daughters partner) who were not up to it. If an independent GB person chose the team then we would see some quality over here from the likes of Dan Johnson nigel Green Tom Harris to name a few. I'm sure people will say but not everyone wants to come the problem is frankie has to much say in this team and they are going backwards.

However, if Wainman is the drive behind organising the team, getting them here, arranging cars and contracts etc, then surely he has every right to have his say as to who comes over. Maybe the team should be named GB Wainman to clear that up, but if other drivers from GB want to get here, then maybe it's up to them (or someone here) to try and arrange that.
If the Rees, the Miers or Hemi (or the Joblins, or whomever it may be) wants to organise a team of drivers to go to the UK and race, they have every right to pick who THEY want to go if they are the ones organising the trip.

Change the name then or get the Dutch over here instead if he keeps bringing sub par drivers over.

[maninstand]

Feb 5, 2019 7:48:53 GMT 12 Regan O'Brien said:

got to remember that i think 3 or 4 hadnt teams raced before so every team has to rebuild somewhere. Now they have the feel for it and if it's the same drivers that come back next season then i would say they would be far better.

Agree bro but when they have far better drivers over there that havnt been given the opportunity to come over its when questions need be asked why they are not here.

[stockman32]

Maybe they have been 'given the opportunity' but declined it. Not everyone is able to take that amount of time away from their place of work, especially those who have businesses to run.

[The other guy]

Also lets not forget that the cars they are loaned are not always up to the specs of most of the other teams at the pointy end of the field.
But must agree a couple of the guys looked out of their depth this year.

[stockman32]

Yes, don't forget it was a first try for three of them.

[mgninc]

Do you have the same issue with people going overseas and claiming to be ‘ team Nz’ ? Most of the teams are pet projects for a select group of people and GB are no different. It’s largely about who controls the sponsor dollars and has the connections.

I posted elsewhere that maybe there ends up being team red waka , the Joblins could do similar, Rees already did , Hunters have in past , Marx out of AK , Wades - H / KK etc , taranaki gladiators, team green.

[beachboy]

lol maninstand if you can come up with 5 people willing to loan there 80K race cars then you can have whoever you want in the GB team, and don't forget to repair the cars when finished won't you.

[maninstand]

Feb 6, 2019 12:53:42 GMT 12 beachboy said:

lol maninstand if you can come up with 5 people willing to loan there 80K race cars then you can have whoever you want in the GB team, and don't forget to repair the cars when finished won't you.

Beach boy. I said drivers not cars. I'm more then aware of what goes on with the leasing of cars then they fly out the day after they've wrecked them. I said they need to take some power of frankie and get some decent drivers here because the ones he brings (family) aren't cutting it

[mordecai]

Feb 6, 2019 14:06:02 GMT 12 maninstand said:

Feb 6, 2019 12:53:42 GMT 12 beachboy said:

lol maninstand if you can come up with 5 people willing to loan there 80K race cars then you can have whoever you want in the GB team, and don't forget to repair the cars when finished won't you.

Beach boy. I said drivers not cars. I'm more then aware of what goes on with the leasing of cars then they fly out the day after they've wrecked them. I said they need to take some power of frankie and get some decent drivers here because the ones he brings (family) aren't cutting it

Yeah Tom harris 37gb could be a good start

[beachboy]

so whos the "they" that you are referring to maninstand? Who is it that should be taking the power of FWJ?

[jayt6]

My thoughts I think it’s sad people have those opinions about Frankie Jr he has put a lot of effort and sacrifice into having a GB team we should not pass judgement on 2019 campaign rather look at the new drivers who now walk away with there experience of their first teams event and know just like those before them they will be better for it

[conrod]

Feb 6, 2019 17:26:06 GMT 12 jayt6 said:

My thoughts I think it’s sad people have those opinions about Frankie Jr he has put a lot of effort and sacrifice into having a GB team we should not pass judgement on 2019 campaign rather look at the new drivers who now walk away with there experience of their first teams event and know just like those before them they will be better for it

Agree there Jayt6 unless you know the FACTS  its a bit rough  to slang off at him that he has to much control , if it was not for him we in all likely hood would off never seen team Gb as i under stood it it was a ambition off His to try and win the title, easier said than done. i'm picking he is at the end off his career and see's getting his son involved as a future to keeping this team in the comp , Hiring mostly  unreliable cars with unknown gear at the lower end off the scale and to walk off with the title is a tall order and is in part the underling problem, Its like us going over there to compete the same obstacles ie cars, money , different styles off racing , time off away, and we wreck there gear and hop on a plane as well