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Post by midway on Aug 21, 2019 0:25:04 GMT 12
Odds on favourite must be Willie Kay ,to tip the winning post , Those For Those Against
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Post by hienekenno1 on Aug 21, 2019 6:32:19 GMT 12
Didn't they all want Willie out of Baypark when he was running it last time,but tell you what he will be a dam site better than Bernie that's for sure,was cool when Willie brought the outlaw drivers over and we saw two of the best Steve Kinser and Sammy Swindell, would love to see baypark back to what it was when it first opened,oh well dreams are free lol.
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Post by percy on Aug 21, 2019 19:49:48 GMT 12
In a sport that desperately needs a youth movement, it's sad to see the same tired old names being raised again
Promoters who reached their career peak in the 1990's aren't going to run speedway optimally in 2019
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Post by orapiuwharf on Aug 21, 2019 21:44:34 GMT 12
I think Percy is on the ball here. Young promoter full of energy. That's what the sport needs.
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Post by midway on Aug 21, 2019 22:12:27 GMT 12
Yep Percy that Is the way to go , Rip nutse and bust ,like the bulls running in Spain . Better the devil you know ,than the devil you Dont ..
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Post by SWP on Aug 22, 2019 8:29:13 GMT 12
In a sport that desperately needs a youth movement, it's sad to see the same tired old names being raised again Promoters who reached their career peak in the 1990's aren't going to run speedway optimally in 2019 My thoughts exactly Matthew, I relayed this to the current BOP speedway club president timsideng last week too. New perspective, new ideas and a willingness to get their own hands dirty, that's your modern promotion!
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Post by beachboy on Aug 22, 2019 16:23:32 GMT 12
He can still be a promoter of a track. If the lease of the venue is owned by anyone who wants to employ him then fair doos. He obviously can't form a company to run the track but an undischarged bankrupt person still has the right to work. The stigma around a person in bankruptcy means that it's a hell of a risk for a leaseholder to take tho. There's also the charge of deception and the striping of his real estate licence not just the bankruptcy issue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 12:01:18 GMT 12
He can still be a promoter of a track. If the lease of the venue is owned by anyone who wants to employ him then fair doos. He obviously can't form a company to run the track but an undischarged bankrupt person still has the right to work. The stigma around a person in bankruptcy means that it's a hell of a risk for a leaseholder to take tho. There's also the charge of deception and the striping of his real estate licence not just the bankruptcy issue. Yep , nothing like dragging up as much crap as you can on someone. i think we all know the details behind all of this , but is there a need for it. Let the powers that be make their own call.
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Post by craige on Aug 23, 2019 12:33:58 GMT 12
In a sport that desperately needs a youth movement, it's sad to see the same tired old names being raised again Promoters who reached their career peak in the 1990's aren't going to run speedway optimally in 2019 Bruce Robertson must be a exception then oh wise one ☝️ 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by hbhornets on Aug 23, 2019 13:39:51 GMT 12
In a sport that desperately needs a youth movement, it's sad to see the same tired old names being raised again Promoters who reached their career peak in the 1990's aren't going to run speedway optimally in 2019 Bruce Robertson must be a exception then oh wise one ☝️ 😂😂😂😂😂 bruce has a great perception of what fans like to see. and gives fans a great show by and large. just question why he spends so much time with spirtcars. palmy would much better be suited to midgets and there are quite a few in the area. but he doesnt. the only thing i will fail bruce on. baypark has a big issue in not being a stockcar track. thats where the crowds wanna see. i cant see anybody doing great with the restrictions in place. i would start by trying to get a smaller area designed for stockcar racing. which enables better spectacle. and dropping the curfew to 9.15pm and getting rid of the opening curfew.
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Post by axl1 on Aug 23, 2019 16:42:59 GMT 12
There's also the charge of deception and the striping of his real estate licence not just the bankruptcy issue. Yep , nothing like dragging up as much crap as you can on someone. i think we all know the details behind all of this , but is there a need for it. Let the powers that be make their own call. There is every need for it, as it's public record. There is a difference between rumour and innuendo and a person who has been before the courts or a regulatory body. This person was before the court because he owned money to that service provider. They under New Zealand law can take this person through a process towards Bankruptcy. It has been made clear in the judges ruling that this person is a danger to the community in terms of his business practices and behaviour. As a business owner myself, I take pride in understanding my obligations as a director of a business as per the Companies Act. If the behaviour of this person had been openly discussed previously, with more attention and focus, this person would not have had the opportunity to continue this behaviour as it affects others, including unpaid small creditors or staff who were employed by this persons business.
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Post by blackbullet on Aug 23, 2019 20:18:28 GMT 12
Bruce Robertson must be a exception then oh wise one ☝️ 😂😂😂😂😂 bruce has a great perception of what fans like to see. and gives fans a great show by and large. just question why he spends so much time with spirtcars. palmy would much better be suited to midgets and there are quite a few in the area. but he doesnt. the only thing i will fail bruce on. baypark has a big issue in not being a stockcar track. thats where the crowds wanna see. i cant see anybody doing great with the restrictions in place. i would start by trying to get a smaller area designed for stockcar racing. which enables better spectacle. and dropping the curfew to 9.15pm and getting rid of the opening curfew. You obviously didn't attend the final night of the NZ Stockcars !!!, don't think there is anything wrong with the 10pm finish as long as the promoter does his/her job and runs the night to a good and managed timeline
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Post by midway on Aug 23, 2019 20:49:37 GMT 12
Yep , nothing like dragging up as much crap as you can on someone. i think we all know the details behind all of this , but is there a need for it. Let the powers that be make their own call. There is every need for it, as it's public record. There is a difference between rumour and innuendo and a person who has been before the courts or a regulatory body. This person was before the court because he owned money to that service provider. They under New Zealand law can take this person through a process towards Bankruptcy. It has been made clear in the judges ruling that this person is a danger to the community in terms of his business practices and behaviour. As a business owner myself, I take pride in understanding my obligations as a director of a business as per the Companies Act. I thought he never owned money ,but owed money to that service provider. A good lawyer Sir acting for his client would certainly bring this to the courts attention as written evidence and ask for a discharge with no conviction against his client ,thats my understanding as a poor pensioner ..
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Post by hbhornets on Aug 23, 2019 23:02:51 GMT 12
bruce has a great perception of what fans like to see. and gives fans a great show by and large. just question why he spends so much time with spirtcars. palmy would much better be suited to midgets and there are quite a few in the area. but he doesnt. the only thing i will fail bruce on. baypark has a big issue in not being a stockcar track. thats where the crowds wanna see. i cant see anybody doing great with the restrictions in place. i would start by trying to get a smaller area designed for stockcar racing. which enables better spectacle. and dropping the curfew to 9.15pm and getting rid of the opening curfew. You obviously didn't attend the final night of the NZ Stockcars !!!, don't think there is anything wrong with the 10pm finish as long as the promoter does his/her job and runs the night to a good and managed timeline a couple of things here. 1. you only get the new zealand title every 15 years. so your gonna have to wait 15 years to see that again. and your leaving it up to the make up of the final to make it exciting. much like gissy last year. 2. the new zealand stockcars were lucky there were no heat 3 stopagers as they didnt have time. and the year before the new zealand supers. to run longer is what the track needs for certain events. if you can start alot earlier and finish earlier surely thats alot better for the high retirement population as well as the ones with families. you cant take without giving. its no easy fix and think anybody will struggle. but they are battlers and they will try to make it work and thats all you can ask of someone is to do there best. there are alot of issues and most you can do nothing about. a positive attitude goes along way. good luck baypark.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 23:37:51 GMT 12
Most would struggle promoting Baypark , simply because of the time constraints . The council keeping their nose out of things would be a hell of a bonus too. I will say that Peter Harford did a great job , had big fields and run some great meetings . One would wonder what the hell happened after him.
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Post by midway on Aug 24, 2019 9:35:00 GMT 12
I thought many people including competitors realized that this new track was not to there liking and without super stocks as a class the attraction was never going to be the same . One thing that got many peoples opinion going was the red terracota dust ,as they went home with in there clothes ,hair etc ,and my thoughts was hey we dont need this we best go down the road to Rotorua It is certainly is a great venue ,but the question remains was it just a touch to big for NZ,s type of speedway .
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Post by Helios on Aug 28, 2019 16:31:19 GMT 12
With only 6 weeks or so until speedways start to crank up for another season, is there any word yet as to whether Baypark will actually be a starter?
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Post by Go Slideways on Aug 28, 2019 17:25:17 GMT 12
One thing that got many peoples opinion going was the red terracota dust ,as they went home with in there clothes ,hair etc ,and my thoughts was hey we dont need this we best go down the road to Rotorua I agree with you on the red stuff mate, I'll never wear a white tee shirt to Bay Park again.
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Aug 28, 2019 20:50:55 GMT 12
With only 6 weeks or so until speedways start to crank up for another season, is there any word yet as to whether Baypark will actually be a starter? Calander out within the week.
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Post by steeldog on Aug 30, 2019 12:48:32 GMT 12
With only 6 weeks or so until speedways start to crank up for another season, is there any word yet as to whether Baypark will actually be a starter? Calander out within the week. Great news. I've been looking for it for quite a while now
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