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Breaking News

2022 ENZED SUPERSTOCK TEAMS CHAMPS

Semi Finals:
Gisborne Giants vs Christchurch Glen Eagles

Rotorua Rebels vs Kihikihi Kings

Tier 2
Auckland Allstars vs Manawatu Mustangs
Palmerston North Panthers vs Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes

Teir 1
Gisborne Giants 320
Kihikihi Kings 270
Rotorua Rebels 265
Christchurch Glen Eagles 235

Teir 2
Auckland Allstars 225
Palmerston North Panthers - 220
Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes - 170
Manawatu Mustangs - 165



Wellington Wildcats - 140
Stratford Scrappers - 100
Baypark Busters - 95
Wanganui Warriors - 85

[hercules]

Apr 23, 2022 22:17:22 GMT 12 Speedway & Motorsport Media said:

Breaking News

2022 ENZED SUPERSTOCK TEAMS CHAMPS

Semi Finals:
Gisborne Giants vs Christchurch Glen Eagles

Rotorua Rebels vs Kihikihi Kings

Tier 2
Auckland Allstars vs Manawatu Mustangs
Palmerston North Panthers vs Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes

Total Points after Night 1
Gisborne Giants 320
Kihikihi Kings 270
Rotorua Rebels 265
Christchurch Glen Eagles 235
Auckland Allstars 225
Palmerston North Panthers - 220
Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes - 170
Manawatu Mustangs - 165
Wellington Wildcats - 140
Stratford Scrappers - 100
Baypark Busters - 95
Wanganui Warriors - 85

Looks like they relegated 58p from 2nd to 4th, he was the car inside the other car that had 2 wheels on the grass.

Looks some good racing tommorow, gizzy look the goods, but they seem to lose there way a bit if you can eliminate 127g, which is a tough assignment as he’s probably the best teams racer at the moment going around.

Rotorua look great too, could be a repeat of last years final, which would be rare.

[tony27]

How can finalised results be changed?

[Speedway & Motorsport Media]

Tier 2 semi finals

Auckland Allstars vs Manawatu Mustangs
Palmerston North Panthers vs Hawkes Bay Hawkeyes

[spuddy]

Haven’t seen the incident, but from the hundreds of comments I’ve read about it, it seems the correct call has been made. tank is the only person I’ve seen say Palmy weren’t in the wrong

[hercules]

Apr 23, 2022 22:30:27 GMT 12 Speedway & Motorsport Media said:

Apr 23, 2022 22:25:32 GMT 12 hercules said:

Looks like they relegated 58p from 2nd to 4th, he was the car inside the other car that had 2 wheels on the grass.

Looks some good racing tommorow, gizzy look the goods, but they seem to lose there way a bit if you can eliminate 127g, which is a tough assignment as he’s probably the best teams racer at the moment going around.

Rotorua look great too, could be a repeat of last years final, which would be rare.

The Panthers team was relegated not just 58p

What do you mean? They still got the win in that race as they won it 120-75. So they got 1st and 4th. Originally they were credited with 1st and 2nd which was 140-55.

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Apr 23, 2022 22:41:08 GMT 12 Go Slideways said:

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[Tony]

Apr 23, 2022 22:26:12 GMT 12 tony27 said:

How can finalised results be changed?

I'm not aware that the result had been finalised. A result certainly hadn't been given to the commentators before the last race.

[Tony]

If you're on Facebook, check out Blake's Speedway Page for head-on video of the 272M rollover; amazing footage!

[Palmyfan4ever]

Apr 23, 2022 21:51:49 GMT 12 flatty888 said:

Once again this is going to be a teams champs remembered for the Panthers/Mires getting looked after by the refs unfortunately.

SERIOUSLY! They just relegated a car, to my knowledge the only team to have one relegated and the relegation had caused the Panthers to drop out off any contention for the title and you have the nerve to say they are looking after them.

This is a blatent example of where the bias is AGAINST the Panthers NOT for them.

Stop saying the refs favor them. They get relegated and screwed over just like everyone else

AND if they did get through on TIER ONE they would have faced the giants in the semi. Those two teams would have wrecked each other giving whoever goes through from the other race a easier change at the title cause either the giants or Panthers are going in majorally injured.

THOSE that say we rigged the draw, would we have rigged it to have THAT HAPPEN not we would not!

Sorry for my little rant, but those drivers in ANY team put a lot on the line to entertain us and I get a little defensive over then being told they get rigged draws and bias officials

Just over it.

[percy]

Always a number of talking points from the meeting.

1. The Levien incident was interesting. I am fully supportive of the rule. The 3 minute bell area is a busy area with people running around like chickens. Holding all cars until the area is clear makes absolute sense. Only one problem - I can't find the rule in the rule book (SEE BELOW RULE IS THERE). I've just downloaded the rulebook from the SNZ site and can't find anything in the teams racing section which enacts this. Makes it a challenge for all concerned to understand the rules when you can't find the rules in the first place! Was it a local rule?

2. The Palmy grass cutting incident seems to have fired up the speedway community! My interpretation was that 52p Joblin was ok. He enacted the spin and whilst some grass was probably involved we are going to have relegations every second race if you relegate for that. The next car through (I think it was 58p) was the problem. He dove to the infield to avoid contact and in doing so passed the spun car. Almost exactly the same thing happened in the Auckland vs Wanganui matchup. Auckland car was spun down the back straight entering turn three. A Wanganui car approaching the incident took to the infield to avoid and never redressed. Entrust the officials applied the same relegation.

3. I can't see anyone who has mentioned this so perhaps I was seeing things? Post the final race it appeared race winner 9r attacked 717a on turn four, almost a full lap after taking the checkered flag. 717a did not appear to have gone under the flag and thus was entitled to attack. After making the attack and spinning both cars it appeared 9r drove the wrong way up the track for 5-10 meters to make a second illegal attack on 717a. I'll have to see a replay because I could not believe what I was seeing. Did anyone else have a perspective on this incident?

[judge10tpt]

Apr 23, 2022 23:16:36 GMT 12 percy said:

Always a number of talking points from the meeting.

1. The Levien incident was interesting. I am fully supportive of the rule. The 3 minute bell area is a busy area with people running around like chickens. Holding all cars until the area is clear makes absolute sense. Only one problem - I can't find the rule in the rule book. I've just downloaded the rulebook from the SNZ site and can't find anything in the teams racing section which enacts this. Makes it a challenge for all concerned to understand the rules when you can't find the rules in the first place! Was it a local rule?

2. The Palmy grass cutting incident seems to have fired up the speedway community! My interpretation was that 52p Joblin was ok. He enacted the spin and whilst some grass was probably involved we are going to have relegations every second race if you relegate for that. The next car through (I think it was 58p) was the problem. He dove to the infield to avoid contact and in doing so passed the spun car. Almost exactly the same thing happened in the Auckland vs Wanganui matchup. Auckland car was spun down the back straight entering turn three. A Wanganui car approaching the incident took to the infield to avoid and never redressed. Entrust the officials applied the same relegation.

3. I can't see anyone who has mentioned this so perhaps I was seeing things? Post the final race it appeared race winner 9r attacked 717a on turn four, almost a full lap after taking the checkered flag. 717a did not appear to have gone under the flag and thus was entitled to attack. After making the attack and spinning both cars it appeared 9r drove the wrong way up the track for 5-10 meters to make a second illegal attack on 717a. I'll have to see a replay because I could not believe what I was seeing. Did anyone else have a perspective on this incident?

1. Rule 12-4-25 (b)

No vehicle will leave from the 3 minute bell area until instructed by the Clerk of the Course

and this is in the fixed penalty section, which states in part “exclusion from the race”

[percy]

Thanks judge10tpt I declare myself legally blind

[percy]

The other one that was interesting was in the Stratford vs Christchurch race

The Stratford car was rolled on it's side but not touching the wall so no 30-second period for the Christchurch car to disentangle (or so we were told). Both cars left on track for the restart with a subsequent red when 971c disentangled.

I'm not convinced the officials got this right

R12-4-57
When a vehicle is the primary cause of an emergency stoppage, it is not eligible to restart. Exception: Rollovers, see R12-3-47 below.
(a) If one or more cars are up the wall or with rollcages exposed, the race will be stopped to remove the primary cause of the emergency stoppage from the race.
(b) The Referee, once the danger has cleared, will give the un-endangered car or cars (not the primary cause of the stoppage) a 30 second opportunity to free themselves from the other car. The referee can only allow one 30 second opportunity.
(c) If they are unable to free their car they will be removed from the race

So the 30 second disentanglement process can be enacted in two instances per part a). Either when one or more cars are up the wall OR when a roll cage is exposed. In this instance the car was not up the wall but its roll cage was exposed and thus my reading of the rule is 971c should have been given the 30 second period to disentangle.

I felt the interpretation of the rule was non-sensical.

[BarryB]

Apr 23, 2022 22:29:26 GMT 12 spuddy said:

Haven’t seen the incident, but from the hundreds of comments I’ve read about it, it seems the correct call has been made. tank is the only person I’ve seen say Palmy weren’t in the wrong

Keep in mind that Tank was also the only person to think that the new 'red flag rule' during the 3 minute bell at the pit gate wasn't a new rule too. Surely a rule used under another scenario is a 'new rule' the moment it is used under a completely different set of circumstances.

Barry B

[BarryB]

Apr 23, 2022 21:51:49 GMT 12 flatty888 said:

Once again this is going to be a teams champs remembered for the Panthers/Mires getting looked after by the refs unfortunately.

They should ask for a refund. The Panthers haven't won in years, and won't again in 2022.

Barry B

[BarryB]

Apr 23, 2022 22:56:02 GMT 12 Tony said:

Apr 23, 2022 22:26:12 GMT 12 tony27 said:

How can finalised results be changed?

I'm not aware that the result had been finalised. A result certainly hadn't been given to the commentators before the last race.

Official results were like an endangered species tonight.

Barry B

[BarryB]

Apr 23, 2022 23:16:36 GMT 12 percy said:

Always a number of talking points from the meeting.

1. The Levien incident was interesting. I am fully supportive of the rule. The 3 minute bell area is a busy area with people running around like chickens. Holding all cars until the area is clear makes absolute sense. Only one problem - I can't find the rule in the rule book (SEE BELOW RULE IS THERE). I've just downloaded the rulebook from the SNZ site and can't find anything in the teams racing section which enacts this. Makes it a challenge for all concerned to understand the rules when you can't find the rules in the first place! Was it a local rule?

2. The Palmy grass cutting incident seems to have fired up the speedway community! My interpretation was that 52p Joblin was ok. He enacted the spin and whilst some grass was probably involved we are going to have relegations every second race if you relegate for that. The next car through (I think it was 58p) was the problem. He dove to the infield to avoid contact and in doing so passed the spun car. Almost exactly the same thing happened in the Auckland vs Wanganui matchup. Auckland car was spun down the back straight entering turn three. A Wanganui car approaching the incident took to the infield to avoid and never redressed. Entrust the officials applied the same relegation.

3. I can't see anyone who has mentioned this so perhaps I was seeing things? Post the final race it appeared race winner 9r attacked 717a on turn four, almost a full lap after taking the checkered flag. 717a did not appear to have gone under the flag and thus was entitled to attack. After making the attack and spinning both cars it appeared 9r drove the wrong way up the track for 5-10 meters to make a second illegal attack on 717a. I'll have to see a replay because I could not believe what I was seeing. Did anyone else have a perspective on this incident?

1/ Sorted

2/ History dictates entering T3 you will not be seen committing such sins

3/ I thought I saw the same as you Percy, but would also need a replay

Barry B

[graemeh]

Apr 24, 2022 0:16:20 GMT 12 BarryB said:

Apr 23, 2022 23:16:36 GMT 12 percy said:

Always a number of talking points from the meeting.

1. The Levien incident was interesting. I am fully supportive of the rule. The 3 minute bell area is a busy area with people running around like chickens. Holding all cars until the area is clear makes absolute sense. Only one problem - I can't find the rule in the rule book (SEE BELOW RULE IS THERE). I've just downloaded the rulebook from the SNZ site and can't find anything in the teams racing section which enacts this. Makes it a challenge for all concerned to understand the rules when you can't find the rules in the first place! Was it a local rule?

2. The Palmy grass cutting incident seems to have fired up the speedway community! My interpretation was that 52p Joblin was ok. He enacted the spin and whilst some grass was probably involved we are going to have relegations every second race if you relegate for that. The next car through (I think it was 58p) was the problem. He dove to the infield to avoid contact and in doing so passed the spun car. Almost exactly the same thing happened in the Auckland vs Wanganui matchup. Auckland car was spun down the back straight entering turn three. A Wanganui car approaching the incident took to the infield to avoid and never redressed. Entrust the officials applied the same relegation.

3. I can't see anyone who has mentioned this so perhaps I was seeing things? Post the final race it appeared race winner 9r attacked 717a on turn four, almost a full lap after taking the checkered flag. 717a did not appear to have gone under the flag and thus was entitled to attack. After making the attack and spinning both cars it appeared 9r drove the wrong way up the track for 5-10 meters to make a second illegal attack on 717a. I'll have to see a replay because I could not believe what I was seeing. Did anyone else have a perspective on this incident?

1/ Sorted

2/ History dictates entering T3 you will not be seen committing such sins

3/ I thought I saw the same as you Percy, but would also need a replay

Barry B

Regarding the Auckland v Rotorua race, it looked messy. The following is from the Fixed penalties section of the rule book

R12-4-67 Accidental Accidental Contact after receiving chequered flag Disqualified
R12-4-67 Intentional Intentional Contact after receiving chequered flag Disqualification plus $100 fine plus 8 day suspension