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Post by Regan O'Brien on Feb 7, 2024 7:41:28 GMT 12
Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I don't think this years event was actually that good when compared to other years. I did enjoy the racing, and I will be back next year, but it lacked the BIG moments we have come to expect when watching teams racing. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all the teams, the drivers putting their cars and bodies on the line for our entertainment, everyone involved in the running of the event. But can anyone honestly say this was the best teams champs they have ever seen? I don't know if it is down to rule changes? Superstocks now being too fast & powerful? The format? I have noticed this over the past few years but there doesn't seem to be the big hits/moments that we used to get. There seems to be a lot more trying to push cars to the infield now, which I understand is a good tactic, it isn't however, that spectacular to watch. Again, for clarity, I am NOT bagging drivers who put it all on the line, they will forever have my undying respect, I certainly couldn't do it. Get use to it, most teams now realize that you dont need to do the big hits or wreck your cars you just got to be good a blocking. Dont get me wrong we always talk about taking the other team out and getting rid of cars but the more important keeping all 4 wheels rolling and Tyres staying up. It's a tactical game now. |
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Post by 4zfed on Feb 7, 2024 7:47:27 GMT 12
Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I don't think this years event was actually that good when compared to other years. I did enjoy the racing, and I will be back next year, but it lacked the BIG moments we have come to expect when watching teams racing. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all the teams, the drivers putting their cars and bodies on the line for our entertainment, everyone involved in the running of the event. But can anyone honestly say this was the best teams champs they have ever seen? I don't know if it is down to rule changes? Superstocks now being too fast & powerful? The format? I have noticed this over the past few years but there doesn't seem to be the big hits/moments that we used to get. There seems to be a lot more trying to push cars to the infield now, which I understand is a good tactic, it isn't however, that spectacular to watch. Again, for clarity, I am NOT bagging drivers who put it all on the line, they will forever have my undying respect, I certainly couldn't do it. Get use to it, most teams now realize that you dont need to do the big hits or wreck your cars you just got to be good a blocking. Dont get me wrong we always talk about taking the other team out and getting rid of cars but the more important keeping all 4 wheels rolling and Tyres staying up. It's a tactical game now. I agree Regan. Teams and drivers are all learning a different way to beat other teams. If you watch Jayden Ward he doesn't do a lot of massive hits. He blocks/stops/pesters and slows the rhythm of teams or runners, generally looking after his car. I thought there were some really good races both nights and to be honest i think its great we hopefully will see less injuries for our drivers that have jobs/life and families outside of Speedway which is only a hobby. |
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 7, 2024 8:26:11 GMT 12
Have to feel for Auckland,1/2 a lap to final,and then didn,t get the opportunity to race for the podium, after bagging a top 4 on the first nite.This needs to change, and go back to status quo.  . |
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Post by Tapped on Feb 7, 2024 10:21:01 GMT 12
Have to feel for Auckland,1/2 a lap to final,and then didn,t get the opportunity to race for the podium, after bagging a top 4 on the first nite.This needs to change, and go back to status quo. . "go back to the status quo"? Status quo means. The existing state of affairs Status quo is a Latin phrase meaning the existing state of affairs, particularly with regard to social, political, religious, scientific or military issues. In the sociological sense, the status quo refers to the current state of social structure or values. |
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Post by Roxcyford on Feb 7, 2024 10:50:53 GMT 12
Have to feel for Auckland,1/2 a lap to final,and then didn,t get the opportunity to race for the podium, after bagging a top 4 on the first nite.This needs to change, and go back to status quo. . "go back to the status quo"? Status quo means. The existing state of affairs Status quo is a Latin phrase meaning the existing state of affairs, particularly with regard to social, political, religious, scientific or military issues. In the sociological sense, the status quo refers to the current state of social structure or values. I may to young to understand that wozza, but to me, I thought it meant when the original concept was made, or how it was, the top 4 raced for a podium, you could make a good school teacher.  . |
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Post by Tapped on Feb 7, 2024 12:17:59 GMT 12
funny that, i did make a good teacher - back when i taught stuff to keen young minds.
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Post by spuddy on Feb 7, 2024 12:42:29 GMT 12
While stones are thrown at Video hub, quite a few threads here talk about great win by, but don't mention who the opposing team is. Probably because all 4 ChCh cars finished, and no Rotorua cars did. It was 4 vs 1 after only 5 or 6 laps. Mig Rumney tried for a few more laps, but what ya gonna do? The semi-finals so often determine the final result, dependent on the amount of damage suffered in winning the semi. Barry B Tend to agree about the damage from semis usually being a big factor, this year didn’t really run true to that though, as the Eagles cars were in worse shape after the semi than Rotorua were |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 7, 2024 13:06:11 GMT 12
Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I don't think this years event was actually that good when compared to other years. I did enjoy the racing, and I will be back next year, but it lacked the BIG moments we have come to expect when watching teams racing. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all the teams, the drivers putting their cars and bodies on the line for our entertainment, everyone involved in the running of the event. But can anyone honestly say this was the best teams champs they have ever seen? I don't know if it is down to rule changes? Superstocks now being too fast & powerful? The format? I have noticed this over the past few years but there doesn't seem to be the big hits/moments that we used to get. There seems to be a lot more trying to push cars to the infield now, which I understand is a good tactic, it isn't however, that spectacular to watch. Again, for clarity, I am NOT bagging drivers who put it all on the line, they will forever have my undying respect, I certainly couldn't do it. Get use to it, most teams now realize that you dont need to do the big hits or wreck your cars you just got to be good a blocking. Dont get me wrong we always talk about taking the other team out and getting rid of cars but the more important keeping all 4 wheels rolling and Tyres staying up. It's a tactical game now. |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 7, 2024 13:15:50 GMT 12
A Smart teams driver will reserve a big hit for only when its crucially needed so many times we have seen a big hit over the years that isnt necessarily needed and the attacking driver has come worse off which dosent help his team at all. If a blocker on the opposing team is blocking really well and taking the race away from your runners and you cant protect them from him then by all means get a big hit on him to cripple his car and make him ineffective like wise if the opposition team is dominating the running and your team is ineffective in slowing him down then try to use the big hit. you have to be smart and able to read the race know what position the opposition cars are in as well as knowing where your own team cars are placed. Its a lot easier said that done but thats what separates the better teams racers from the rest.
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Post by pitlane on Feb 7, 2024 13:38:03 GMT 12
Wee write up in the Manawatu Standard "The Glen Eagles did have a few worries before the final, with the country’s outstanding block driver Jayden Ward having a shoulder problem, although he did make it out to do his usual blocking job. Surprisingly though, Ward did not damage his shoulder during a race. “I popped it in the grand parade carrying the flag around,” Ward said. “We taped it up and iced it for the final, though I was pretty much driving with one hand.” The brilliant team work of the Glen Eagles made the title win look easier than it actually was, with Thian, Ward, Darrel Wallace, Scott Tennant and Harley Robb all playing their part as they expertly picked off opponents. The ability of all the drivers to switch from racing to blocking, or the reverse, sets the Glen Eagles apart. “We don’t try to destroy our opponents, but hit them hard enough to take them out, but keep our own cars going,” Ngatai said. www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350169780/team-work-propels-glen-eagles-superstock-teams-title |
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Post by fanforlife on Feb 7, 2024 17:38:19 GMT 12
A Smart teams driver will reserve a big hit for only when its crucially needed so many times we have seen a big hit over the years that isnt necessarily needed and the attacking driver has come worse off which dosent help his team at all. If a blocker on the opposing team is blocking really well and taking the race away from your runners and you cant protect them from him then by all means get a big hit on him to cripple his car and make him ineffective like wise if the opposition team is dominating the running and your team is ineffective in slowing him down then try to use the big hit. you have to be smart and able to read the race know what position the opposition cars are in as well as knowing where your own team cars are placed. Its a lot easier said that done but thats what separates the better teams racers from the rest. |
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Post by The other guy on Feb 7, 2024 18:34:16 GMT 12
What is all the fuss about Auckland missing out on a finals berth because of a red light with 1/2 lap remaining.
If they were in a winning position then, so on the restart all they had to do was 1/2 lap to the win.
Am I missing something. If so can you please enlighten me to what stopped them.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 7, 2024 19:02:29 GMT 12
What is all the fuss about Auckland missing out on a finals berth because of a red light with 1/2 lap remaining. If they were in a winning position then, so on the restart all they had to do was 1/2 lap to the win. Am I missing something. If so can you please enlighten me to what stopped them. You're missing quite a lot. Barry B |
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Post by The other guy on Feb 7, 2024 19:14:49 GMT 12
Obviously Barry.
So why and what actually happened to stop them
That wouldnt of, had the lights NOT come on
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Post by spuddy on Feb 7, 2024 20:20:36 GMT 12
Obviously Barry. So why and what actually happened to stop them That wouldnt of, had the lights NOT come on The ref chucked a red light on for a bit of flame coming out of the exhaust While stopped, the Auckland guy went to change his gear, and the gearstick snapped. Had there not been a red light, the gear stick wouldn’t have been an issue in that race and he finishes in first |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 7, 2024 20:34:04 GMT 12
Obviously Barry. So why and what actually happened to stop them That wouldnt of, had the lights NOT come on From how it looked on the livestream, race leader 72a Cody McKee pulled up in front of the grandstand for the most dubious of red lights, the next two Rotorua cars made up a massive amount of ground by not stopping quickly for the red lights. They would both eventually be pushed back about 1/4 of a lap each. The spectators in the grandstand started waving their arms to attract the attention of officials. McKee had a problem. I think the infield commentator mentioned the engine was still running, but whatever the case McKee's gearstick had snapped off and the infield commentator showed viewers two lengthy but broken pieces of gearstick. The car was removed from the track before the race went green again, and Rotorua cruised to a lucky victory. Had the red light not have come on, Auckland were home and hosed as their were no block cars between him and the chequered flag, and he was 1/4 lap up on the lead Rotorua car with 1/2 a lap to race. The red light was for spent fuel burning in the exhaust of a car trying to restart, which we see all the time. It had been sitting in the wall for awhile, and had the referee waited another 20 seconds ALL mobile cars could have crossed the line bringing the race to a fair conclusion. Barry B |
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Post by The other guy on Feb 8, 2024 16:43:52 GMT 12
Thanks for the explanation Barry.
Now I see why, and yes I understand Cody would of won.
They WERE unlucky then
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Post by BarryB on Feb 8, 2024 16:58:41 GMT 12
Thanks for the explanation Barry. Now I see why, and yes I understand Cody would of won. They WERE unlucky then They sure were. Genuinely unlucky. and made especially tough when it's been so long between drinks. Barry B |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Feb 8, 2024 18:03:59 GMT 12
Thanks for the explanation Barry. Now I see why, and yes I understand Cody would of won. They WERE unlucky then They sure were. Genuinely unlucky. and made especially tough when it's been so long between drinks. Barry B Yea the first time I went to the teams Champs in 1995 and Auckland made the final 🙂 |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 8, 2024 19:48:12 GMT 12
They sure were. Genuinely unlucky. and made especially tough when it's been so long between drinks. Barry B Yea the first time I went to the teams Champs in 1995 and Auckland made the final 🙂 I'm sure Paul Hickey won't mind me telling you the first time he ever went, 1986, Rotorua won. He thought it was easy, but it took many a year for them to win another. 2021, so 35 years by my maths. Was 1995 the year Roydon Collingwood raced for Auckland? I'm not sure what year I first went. 1989 or 1990, but not 100% sure now. Barry B |
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