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Post by alloyplatypus on Feb 28, 2010 10:50:06 GMT 12
If you ban it, people will smuggle it in. At least through Sales the club or venue are making money for the club. If Speedway bans the sale of alcohol, i think it would be a step backward in being professional. I dont drink during the week but like to have a few on my nights off which coincide with speedway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2010 4:27:52 GMT 12
Some people will still smuggle in alcohol anyway, whether the track sells it or not.
I've seen spectators arrive (generally in groups or 3 or more) partially intoxicated to start with. They smuggle their booze in. Its not hard to do. The PN entry police do a good job searching but when they see several 1 or 2 liter plastic coke bottles in a bag, how do they know if it contains liquor or not? (e.g. Jim Beam/Jack Daniels mixed with coke). There are other methods.
Getting wasted at a speedway meeting may not sound like the brightest idea to speedway puritans, but to drinkers who enjoy their speedway fix as well, it makes sense. But these punters are not stupid. They understand that to get high on alcohol requires volume which, given the high prices charged at venues, can be expensive.
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Post by whatdoessnzdo on Mar 3, 2010 16:33:34 GMT 12
I decided to vote for the leave it up to each track to decide policy. My reason is that after a year or two it would be clear to see which policy was working best. ie: the tracks who decided to let spectators drink at their venue might find that it doesn't work out as they would like or it may be a success. On the other hand Speedway could pair itself up with the authorities as a clean, no drinking sport that helps young drivers on the road to develop good car skills through racing......  ? |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Mar 10, 2010 22:15:47 GMT 12
If you ban it, people will smuggle it in. At least through Sales the club or venue are making money for the club. If Speedway bans the sale of alcohol, i think it would be a step backward in being professional. I dont drink during the week but like to have a few on my nights off which coincide with speedway. If baned totally if removes any arguement regarding the consumption of alcohol on site - becomes an excellent btoiol to manage drunks. To sell alcolhol at a speedway to make money might be 'professional' in the eyes of some, 'irresponsible' in the eyes of others. We must acknowledge the alcohol wrecks havoc in our community and incompatible with motoir vehicles. To provide family motorsport entertainment alcohol free may well see an increase in patronage (income). What would you rather have, 50 out of 1000 folk with a beer and half cut, or 1500 and all sober? Speedway finishes at around 10pm. Not too long to wait for a quiet (or noisy) beer or two after the racing. |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Mar 11, 2010 9:19:45 GMT 12
^^^AGREE^^^
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Post by fordzrule on Mar 12, 2010 20:41:51 GMT 12
In theory the promoter will get the $$$ from sellers so therefore a double edged sword,maybe more prizemoney to pay out,but more obnoxious (very few)idiots,it's ok at most meets,but at teams at Palmy you can't up and change seat if a dickhead is pissed beside you.
Do I need a beer at teams meet hell no,other meetings yep have grabbed one in between minor races.
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Post by wikidklown on Mar 24, 2010 9:51:54 GMT 12
let each track choose i say. as always there is a few people stuffing things up for the rest of us. i dont want to get drunk and roudy, i just like to have a cold beer or two and wach a good night of racing. no glass, byo is good, as the 7bux for a beer is just stupid i think  |
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Jan 16, 2011 16:29:24 GMT 12
If Speedway bans the sale of alcohol, i think it would be a step backward in being professional. How could it possibly be a step back in professionalism. It would create a far better image, no drunken louts making fools of themselves on tv etc (although sober people also do this) which would make the whole operation look alot MORE professional. If a club has to hinge part of its income on alcohol sales it has a serious problem. Its primary function is a speedway and thats its primamry source of income, extra income via alcohol does happen obviously but as ive said if a club needs to subsidise through alcohol its not to good. |
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Post by lmcqueen on Apr 10, 2011 20:04:17 GMT 12
Yeah but what about the responsible social drinker who likes to go and catch up with mates in the clubrooms before the meeting, and have a couple of quiet beers and a yarn? Not hurting any body or being irresponsible just enjoying the atmosphere and relaxing. Surely, there has to be a clear distinction between those getting pissed and being idiots, and the responsible person who knows limits and social boundaries.. Dont penalise all for the idiocy of some. Just come down harder on those who abuse it and make drunken dicks of themselves.. As a regular patron of Baypark I cant say I have seen any drunkenness and bad behaviour..
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Post by James Selwyn on Jun 22, 2011 12:43:17 GMT 12
....promoted as a family event and therefore should be without drunks in the crowd. Most Kiwi family Christmas parties??? Some people should be locked in a cage before consuming alcohol because they have no self control past a certain point/amount of drinks. A 'good' drunk is inoffensive and unnoticed. Minority spoiling it for majority? Let people drink. Ban the ones that cause trouble. Alot of US tracks have a "Family stand" or area. No Smoking No Drinking No bad language etc. |
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Post by theothermikeyb on Jun 22, 2011 19:24:36 GMT 12
Can't believe you'd ban alcohol at the teams? Then again I did lost a night of teams racing as a student when I queued early and tried passing some time with a quiet beer.
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Post by aaronandpetra on Nov 21, 2011 10:16:59 GMT 12
Hi there all well my 3yr old son and the family went down to p/north teams last year it was gr8 until some dick threw a empty can up in the air and hit my son in the head I crew for Trevor mason and I'm all 4 a drink but when things like that happen it sux my son had 3 stitches in the front of his head that then stuffed our weekend as in stead of crewing or watching the racing we where at p/north hospital so if they do ban drinks it is because off the few dicks in the crowd and then it stuffs it up 4 the ones that do behave..
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Post by Skorp on Dec 30, 2011 12:35:46 GMT 12
The PN entry police do a good job searching but when they see several 1 or 2 liter plastic coke bottles in a bag, how do they know if it contains liquor or not? (e.g. Jim Beam/Jack Daniels mixed with coke). There are other methods. they are supposed to do a sniff check of any bottle that has had the factory seals broken, but dont always do so, it seems to depend on the person doing the checking. for the big meetings, ie teams then they all do sniff checks as for having alcohol at the meeting, for the big meetings there needs to be a designated alcohol consumption zone, preferably where the racing can still be seen, but if not then access to a video feed should suffice. and for those who decide to get drunk in that designated area then leave, if they dont behave they can bee booted from the facility, and if police are in attendance, then possibly arrested for public intoxication or something |
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