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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:22:50 GMT 12
Theres a video a page or 2 back where some of the infringments can be seen, particularly the wall riding and the advantage gained.
I guess all we can do now is suck it up and hope that EVERY team gets pulled up for infringements tonight.
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Post by iaccelerate on Feb 5, 2012 11:26:22 GMT 12
DANNY WAINMAN HUGE HIT ON REES AND PUTS HIM UP AND OVER REES ON HIS WHEELS THEN A PRETTY BALL OF FIRE! Its put out but now hes gonna keep going? Isnt that against rules as hes had outside help. Wainman now off. So you get a kick out of seeing a car on fire with the driver in it? Pretty big of you. Dude im in my first year of NCEA I get a kick out of anything. Also was just sasying that for those that could not see it.
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Post by Skorp on Feb 5, 2012 11:40:44 GMT 12
Lets look at what I got, Frankie waiman came off due to fuel pressure failure after the hit and hes was gutted. Rees had an exhaust fire from I could see, it was a good one with lots of flames and he was trying to restart. the fireman did go to both sides of the car to look at the flames, but they werent to bad, i dont know if he used the extinguisher or not sorry. Rees retarted but the car was stuffed. The wall running I didnt think was too bad, it was very wet out there and there bouncing off the walls rather than running them, if you watched the whole track. it was the same for both teams and the other option was to stop the race and then what. I will be also going to see Rod today and get his clarification which i will broadcast tonight at the track and relay to Barry and Paul for speedbox cheers Mintie Word of advice for you for tonight, stay at the pit end of the track when the cars come out, then you won;t have to do so much running to find out whats happening with the 3 minutes bells! It was pretty funny seeing you running to find out what was happening almost every race.
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Post by pfloyd on Feb 5, 2012 11:54:25 GMT 12
hey wiseowl dont quote half the sentence mate. I was not calling Rees a cheat at all. i was pointing to all those that were that Mooney carried on after being rolled twice and everyone called him a legend, rees does it once and everyone is calling him a cheat. i admit I could have phrased it better but in ending my post asking for actual rules rather than anti- palmy sentiment it should have given you a clue to who I support. You have actually supported a previous post of mine when I said it was rees' job to keep racing and play to the refs whistle.this may suprise you but we are on the same page
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Post by pac on Feb 5, 2012 12:18:56 GMT 12
theres video on youtube of the roll over and fire...right in front, and it clearly shows the extinguishing of the flames. But back to the good news...Didn't the REBELS look blardy good out there last night, here's hoping they do the job tonight and bring home first place!!!
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Post by Wiseowl on Feb 5, 2012 12:23:23 GMT 12
hey wiseowl dont quote half the sentence mate. I was not calling Rees a cheat at all. i was pointing to all those that were that Mooney carried on after being rolled twice and everyone called him a legend, rees does it once and everyone is calling him a cheat. i admit I could have phrased it better but in ending my post asking for actual rules rather than anti- palmy sentiment it should have given you a clue to who I support. You have actually supported a previous post of mine when I said it was rees' job to keep racing and play to the refs whistle.this may suprise you but we are on the same page Fair call pfloyd Im glad you clarified the point After watching thousands of races over the years...all I can say is thank god half the people on this board DONT referee...... Its a dammed hard job...non-paying......and heaps of abuse is dished out I always say....If you dont like it... Try It...Constructive criticism ............ or shut up!!! I tend to just watch the racing for enjoyment... not to pick at every little fault.....and am looking forward to an awesome finals night... no matter who wins ! Cheers Wiseowl
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Post by theothermikeyb on Feb 5, 2012 12:23:49 GMT 12
It is a pity this incident happened with Rees and the panthers as sadly people's views on them will come out more than an actual reasoned discussion of what happened.
The drizzle we had at that time was fairly persistent and the tracks conditions were suffering. With only one race to go you could understand why they kept going but I have seen rain less than that halt races before.Sensible move to keep going given there was only one race to go. It was pretty obvious early in the race that if you went low you were going to slide out to the wall and if you went high you were going to slide out to the wall. Why would you drive any other line?
I don't think you can ignore the fact that both teams we using the wall. In fact the car that made the huge hit on Rees had completed most of the previous lap on the wall as its how he got the speed to make the hit so hard.
Lastly is the issue of Rees being allowed to continue. The roll is no issue as we know that teams landing on the wheels are allowed to continue. The issue becomes whether the fire fighting was outside assistance. Now I have never read the rulebook to be able to quote the exact wording but I would have thought that the outside assistance that is not allowed is any assistance to start or move the car. Putting out a fire is maintaining safety and not directly assisting the driver to move or start (granted a car would not start if it had burnt out).
Is there a precedent in any previous teams meetings of burning cars who were extinguished and wanted to continue and were not allowed to? Can't imagine it would happen very often.
The wheel guard? Maybe someone can post us a picture so we can see how bad it was. I was impressed with the safety crews in general so would be suprised if they let it go.
Oh and lastly, go the tigers!!!!
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Post by Willess on Feb 5, 2012 12:25:02 GMT 12
I propose a new rule.... Don't accept any new 'Macgor Members' the day after Qualifying Night of Teams Champs. There seems to be some a lot of new members that are very negative.
Bring on tonight!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2012 12:34:03 GMT 12
The same thing happened to Pete at team nationals about 3or 4 years ago got spun hit wall car stalled caught on fire when being restarted fire went out and race carried on no problems.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2012 12:40:19 GMT 12
The same thing happened to Pete at team nationals about 3or 4 years ago got spun hit wall car stalled caught on fire when being restarted fire went out and race carried on no problems. the difference is the fire extinguisher being used , reading up before posting would be helpful.
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Post by Tony on Feb 5, 2012 12:41:17 GMT 12
I propose a new rule.... Don't accept any new 'Macgor Members' the day after Qualifying Night of Teams Champs. There seems to be some a lot of new members that are very negative. Bring on tonight!!! I couldn't agree more with both sentiments, but especially the last one; nearly time to head back over to Palmy; it's going to be a brilliant night's racing.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2012 12:43:06 GMT 12
this thread will be locked at 2pm. any threads moaning about me locking this thread will be removed . Ref's call and I'm the Ref here.
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Post by peteg181p on Feb 5, 2012 12:44:24 GMT 12
this thread will be locked at 2pm. any threads moaning about me locking this thread will be removed . Ref's call and I'm the Ref here. woohoo bring on tonite
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Post by savstl1000 on Feb 5, 2012 12:44:50 GMT 12
this thread will be locked at 2pm. any threads moaning about me locking this thread will be removed . Ref's call and I'm the Ref here. wheres the like button ;D
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Post by savstl1000 on Feb 5, 2012 12:47:14 GMT 12
Go the tigers.
Would be good to see a Tigers vs Rebels final.
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Post by Couch racer on Feb 5, 2012 12:50:00 GMT 12
I'm with you. Rebels to win tho
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Post by l8r on Feb 5, 2012 12:51:26 GMT 12
this thread will be locked at 2pm. any threads moaning about me locking this thread will be removed . Ref's call and I'm the Ref here. Fair call, yer last night was last night, whether you agree or not, its dealt with, lets see some hard, fast action on the track tonight, and may the best team win Rebels certainly are looking the goods, but go the tigers!
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Post by savstl1000 on Feb 5, 2012 12:55:52 GMT 12
Hope the wanders go well in the 2nd tier to night and make it up to 3rd.
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