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Post by Ford Prefect on Feb 8, 2012 18:12:47 GMT 12
as I said there s di#%heads everywhere and I understand how galling it can be...................I get annoyed cause it should be a family show, but I wouldn't really want to expose little kids to some of the rubbish that goes on
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Post by Shai-tan on Feb 8, 2012 18:20:29 GMT 12
as I said there s di#%heads everywhere and I understand how galling it can be...................I get annoyed cause it should be a family show, but I wouldn't really want to expose little kids to some of the rubbish that goes on Agree completely, my wife's Uncle and little cousins were there and they got to see a lot more of the worse side of Speedway than I would have liked. Might have to move off the top row next year and get closer to the Stratford supporters  |
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Post by SpeedwayKing on Feb 8, 2012 18:29:28 GMT 12
the biggest sore loser was the idiot who threw the can at Bengston
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Post by djscoobsta on Feb 8, 2012 20:59:05 GMT 12
Who did not use a ring-in of some sorts at the weekend? Palmy Mustangs Nelson Rebels Lions?? Wildcats - I think. (Maybe the most disappointing result of the weekend, those guys have the talent, maybe the "Young Guns" are still too young to step up to the bigger event?) I do agree about the sore losers thing after the semifinals and subsequent 3rd and 4th final a Rebels supporter next to me got more and more discussed with the way the meeting was running. Everyone else around me were Tigers supporters and the offered good conversation and a bit of friendly banter over both nights and even after the final admitted the better team won and that the Tigers made some bad calls leading up to the final (Dale Ewers car wasn't at 100% but he still raced leaving the young Dale siting out). And afterwards I still shook their hands before they left. It is always a few who spoil it for the many, it doesn't matter what sport or subject you bring up. Those people have no place at the track at a family oriented sport and the atmosphere normally reflects that. PS: Go the mighty PN Panthers! |
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Post by stockmad on Feb 8, 2012 21:41:46 GMT 12
Palmy Mustangs Nelson Rebels Lions?? Palmy (Penn, Joblin and 6th driver Hemi) Mustangs (McCabe, Joblin and Joblin) Nelson Rebels (Osborne) Lions (ring in cars, but I think that's acceptable ;D ) Depends on your definition of "ring in" eh wellington wildcats all drivers are local drivers |
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Post by joshkahui4w on Feb 8, 2012 23:57:05 GMT 12
Sorri we dissapointed you djscoobsta but if you had any idea of the hours that went into the cars just to get a team to Palmy you would be very proud of the Wildcats. We were just stoked to be there and trust me we were also stoked to get some sleep come Saturday night. Its not easy getting a team of 5 cars from Te Marua when thats all we have racing there. Very proud of the boys and all the hours they worked to get us there. Think they went to bed at 4am on the Sat morning after all their hard work, and then were in their cars with smiles on their races ready to race.
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Post by joshkahui4w on Feb 9, 2012 0:18:13 GMT 12
And yes all our cars were Te Marua contracted drivers!!
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Post by Brett85p on Feb 9, 2012 3:22:44 GMT 12
I think the fire rule is a good one, you can't mess with safety. You don't want the driver making the call while strapped in that it's just unburnt gas in the exhaust and waving the fire crew off when it could be much worse.
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Post by muncho on Feb 9, 2012 4:28:20 GMT 12
Was very nice to meet! Yes i know which one you were and no the bulk of the banter was not directed at you it happend to be directed at the bloke that was next to you in the stand that we were in who yes happend to be in the middle of a direct line from the girls to you! no i was not nor wer any of our group the guy who wantad to start a fight the last 15 years of being in palmy have never resulted in wanting to or being involved in any fights! As it happens to be the guy you happen to be talking about was a panther supporter that was up set that the tiger fan wanted to put his legs down but the guy didn't want anyone behind him because he didn't want to have knees in his back like the rest of us did! If you were really paying attention you would have happend to notice that our 6 rows you speak of also happend to be full of thoes nelson guys you say we were abusing when we were supporting! As i enjoy being a member of macgors i will now wish you well with life, as said eariler it was nice to meet you ! Hope to see you in aucks and again next year happy supporting!!! Phew ;D Yep will be in auks........and definately palmy next year! Happy to come have a beer and chant panthers beside ya til ya hearts content  As penman said,theres passion for supporting your team then theres deadset idiotism/childish/ comments that has no place anywhere,regardless if your team are winning or losing. |
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Post by pfloyd on Feb 9, 2012 5:23:33 GMT 12
as speedway fans we all have to sit back and recognise that we are seeing the greatest superstock team there has been - their record is second to none. As a palmy supporter i have to recognise that visiting fans will bring their passion to beat us and we should expect nothing less (i am now realising what it must have been like to be an Auckland rugby supporter during the 80s) but when that passion breaks out into drivers being abused when they are trying to get their cars sorted to give us even more entertainment or being pelted when getting out of a rolled car we have to draw the line. those people arent passionate - they are idiots and there is no place for them and that includes palmy supporters who do the same to visitors. This particular panthers team have set the standard and man are we fans in for a treat when we can get 4 or 5 other teams that can match them consistently.
If subsequent newspaper articles are correct you are going to have to do that cause these guys will be around for a few years yet and next year we will have a new Red waka with its bugs ironed out lining up as well. if that happens then a Mustangs team with 3 Joblins is very much on the cards. The good thing I am seeing is that both sides of the argument are on the same page when it comes to abusive idiots so maybe next year with the spotlight on them those fools may leave either their attitude or themselves at home.
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Post by mcfly on Feb 9, 2012 5:41:27 GMT 12
I think the fire rule is a good one, you can't mess with safety. You don't want the driver making the call while strapped in that it's just unburnt gas in the exhaust and waving the fire crew off when it could be much worse. I think the fire rule is a bad one. I would obviously prefer to see no fires at all, but I also believe the marshalls know what they are looking at and have a far better idea of the origine of the fire than the driver. If they put it out they assisted the car to continue to race, simple really. Reeces fire looked engine bay placed to me, spilled fuel from the carb perhaps? had that been left would the electrics have survived before it burnt itself out to allow him to carry on? We must have faith in the judgement of the marshalls in situations like this,it is their call, not the drivers, and if they are used I believe the car should be removed because it has had outside assistance. |
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Post by djscoobsta on Feb 9, 2012 8:09:00 GMT 12
Sorri we dissapointed you djscoobsta but if you had any idea of the hours that went into the cars just to get a team to Palmy you would be very proud of the Wildcats. We were just stoked to be there and trust me we were also stoked to get some sleep come Saturday night. Its not easy getting a team of 5 cars from Te Marua when thats all we have racing there. Very proud of the boys and all the hours they worked to get us there. Think they went to bed at 4am on the Sat morning after all their hard work, and then were in their cars with smiles on their races ready to race. Mate, I understand the huge amount of background work that goes on (I have multiple friends who race over various classes) Well done on getting some sleep on Saturday a lot of guys probably didn't. It just great to see the Wildcats back and hopefully they can rebuilt to the form of old and return every year. I think a lot of expectation went on the Wldcats this year to get straight back on form but I did think you could of beaten the Glen Eagles  Hope Dales car is okay after wrecking that front end. See you next year. |
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Post by l8dog on Feb 9, 2012 13:12:30 GMT 12
as I said there s di#%heads everywhere and I understand how galling it can be...................I get annoyed cause it should be a family show, but I wouldn't really want to expose little kids to some of the rubbish that goes on Agree completely, my wife's Uncle and little cousins were there and they got to see a lot more of the worse side of Speedway than I would have liked. Might have to move off the top row next year and get closer to the Stratford supporters Ill save a seat for you right next to me. And ill give you a cuddle when the panthers fans get tooo rowdy. ive got a spare stratford supporters cape for you. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 9, 2012 13:31:12 GMT 12
I think the fire rule is a good one, you can't mess with safety. You don't want the driver making the call while strapped in that it's just unburnt gas in the exhaust and waving the fire crew off when it could be much worse. the driver shouldn't have anything to do with the call in anyway. That should be down to the professional(fireman) on the spot. |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 9, 2012 15:07:50 GMT 12
I think the fire rule is a good one, you can't mess with safety. You don't want the driver making the call while strapped in that it's just unburnt gas in the exhaust and waving the fire crew off when it could be much worse. I think the fire rule is a bad one. I would obviously prefer to see no fires at all, but I also believe the marshalls know what they are looking at and have a far better idea of the origine of the fire than the driver. If they put it out they assisted the car to continue to race, simple really. Reeces fire looked engine bay placed to me, spilled fuel from the carb perhaps? had that been left would the electrics have survived before it burnt itself out to allow him to carry on? We must have faith in the judgement of the marshalls in situations like this,it is their call, not the drivers, and if they are used I believe the car should be removed because it has had outside assistance. ok was in discussion with Rod McNaughton today as I usually am after each teams Red light for Rees was to check roll cage after roll then after that fire erupted and extinguished no problem there as for the wheel guard was a tricky recall on reflection maybe should have been pulled off things was wheel guard was jammed in tight wasn't missing or hanging loose. Back to the fire would have been different if the red was thrown on for a fire. Understand what you are saying though |
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Post by Admin on Feb 9, 2012 15:24:30 GMT 12
I've been watching this game a long time and can't ever recall seeing such a thing happen before outside of a basic club night and that was for a minor oil fire.
I also think it was potentially dangerous as no vehicle checks were done to check for leaking fuel , also what if fuel had gotten inside the car and not been noticed.
Still it was the Ref's decision , don't agree with it but it turned out ok in the end this time. I'm more concerned for the future.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 9, 2012 15:35:36 GMT 12
Yes I think you will find a better clarification on fire rules or decisions in the near future
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Post by theothermikeyb on Feb 9, 2012 16:31:39 GMT 12
I have tryed to read this post and not sure why but I can't bring myself to do it. Does sound like we may have seen the worst of ourselves this weekend and hopefully we'll all get a bit of a shock and do something about it with our friends and ourselves. And if we all start at that level we'll have the crowd back to an appropriate level of behaviour in no time. I am leaving my mates behind next year. There'll be no more - please hold my pizza while i drink my beer mikey
- excuse me i need wees again mikey
- sit in all the row f seat 82's except my own mikey (why did palmy have 3 seats with thar row and number)
- leave my rubbish behind mikey
- hassle the security guards mikey
- pay attention to and encourage the fighters mikey
And for all my excesses the crowd around me was pretty awesome and tolerant, mind you so was I. I applauded any team/driver who did good stuff and accepted defeat gracefully. Heres hoping we can all do the same next year! |
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 9, 2012 16:58:18 GMT 12
I have tryed to read this post and not sure why but I can't bring myself to do it. Does sound like we may have seen the worst of ourselves this weekend and hopefully we'll all get a bit of a shock and do something about it with our friends and ourselves. And if we all start at that level we'll have the crowd back to an appropriate level of behaviour in no time. I am leaving my mates behind next year. There'll be no more - please hold my pizza while i drink my beer mikey
- excuse me i need wees again mikey
- sit in all the row f seat 82's except my own mikey (why did palmy have 3 seats with thar row and number)
- leave my rubbish behind mikey
- hassle the security guards mikey
- pay attention to and encourage the fighters mikey
And for all my excesses the crowd around me was pretty awesome and tolerant, mind you so was I. I applauded any team/driver who did good stuff and accepted defeat gracefully. Heres hoping we can all do the same next year! Last year I went with a mate who also had his brother tagging along, his brother was exactly as you described above. I was about 3 seats down form but was still embarrased. He was pouring the booze down and just being a idiot. What was ever worse was the walk to and from the track, abusing people in their houses and passing by in cars. I think a few things could be learned by everyone involved with teams this year, from the refs t the organizers and of course the fans. |
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Hope Dales car is okay after wrecking that front end. See you next year.
