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Post by BarryB on Feb 16, 2012 7:19:20 GMT 12
marcus nothing to hide at all bet you are not perfect either I didn't think the apology sounded particularly sincere, it sounded more like a "get off my back" statement to me, and it appears you set up a new account to make your apology and didn't even bother to sign you name to it. It's no wonder people are questioning your sincerity. If I'm wrong, and you are sincere about it, man-up and sign your name. You'll find people will respect you more for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 8:48:17 GMT 12
Hell mate , Im glad you are not the promotor ,  Would be easy to pick which group you would be with . Save the boozing and yahooing till after the events over . The paying public dont have to take their families along to put up with such crap. P S , this post was in response to the new thread , When Miers run the show ...Was moved from here. |
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Post by beachboy on Feb 16, 2012 20:26:35 GMT 12
It is my understanding that Arena just hire out the venue and the event security is the responsibility of the hirer. so this now begs the question - if the promoter only hires the venue to run his speedway meeting and has no interest in the sale of alcohol then is he required to provide security for the control of it or is that down to the venue owner or the vendor ? lots of people are putting the control of grog on Bruces plate when Highrevz may have knocked it on the head - the site OWNER may need to step in to this. maybe if they were selling only TUI I may believe all that. The venue Hirer/promoter Bruce Robertson must have some say on weather alcohol is sold at this event. Come on. |
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Post by 350lc on Feb 16, 2012 21:14:10 GMT 12
It is my understanding that Arena just hire out the venue and the event security is the responsibility of the hirer. so this now begs the question - if the promoter only hires the venue to run his speedway meeting and has no interest in the sale of alcohol then is he required to provide security for the control of it or is that down to the venue owner or the vendor ? lots of people are putting the control of grog on Bruces plate when Highrevz may have knocked it on the head - the site OWNER may need to step in to this. maybe if they were selling only TUI I may believe all that. The venue Hirer/promoter Bruce Robertson must have some say on weather alcohol is sold at this event. Come on. according to mstaff I know PN Speedway have no say as the arena has sold the rights for the licence to another party. I know what Bruce said to me about drunken saturday night people and it wasn't positive... This poblem is not just our speedway problem but a kiwi problem/possibly to big for us to fix we just need to learn to stop binge drinking to have fun ... |
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Post by thereal888 on Feb 16, 2012 21:15:49 GMT 12
Why would you guys think that not selling alcohol at the venue would fix the problem?
Get with the real world!
Substances are banned all over the world yet readily available,accessiblesmuggled ANYWHERE. If you can't keep it out of prisons then you sure as hell ain't going to keep it out of a Paying venue such as speedway are ya?
Just control the crowds!
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Post by Admin on Feb 16, 2012 21:35:06 GMT 12
This problem arises every year and I don't think it will ever be fixed.
I don't mind if people have a beer or whatever while watching some racing but the waste of spaces that drink to the extreme should be chucked out if they are causing a problem.
More security being more proactive would be my attempt to calm things.
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Post by pfloyd on Feb 17, 2012 4:59:55 GMT 12
It is my understanding that Arena just hire out the venue and the event security is the responsibility of the hirer. so this now begs the question - if the promoter only hires the venue to run his speedway meeting and has no interest in the sale of alcohol then is he required to provide security for the control of it or is that down to the venue owner or the vendor ? lots of people are putting the control of grog on Bruces plate when Highrevz may have knocked it on the head - the site OWNER may need to step in to this. maybe if they were selling only TUI I may believe all that. The venue Hirer/promoter Bruce Robertson must have some say on weather alcohol is sold at this event. Come on. mate - Arena like many stadiums have sold the catering rights to their venue(i think the company is called Eurest and it was previously the local Kingsgate hotel). This includes sale of alcohol. They cater for all functions and events at the stadium with Gala caterers having their caravans around the terraces. when you have an event at the likes of wellington stadium it comes with everything including site security. The NZRU just have their rugby matches there and wgtn stadium deal with everything else. The same thing happens at Arena with the exception of security - they leave that up to the venue hirer. i reckon if this continues though they will consider very seriously stepping in and all hireres will have to conform to THEIR security plan which may not be to everyones liking but would certainly get everyone off Bruces back. |
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Post by totspete on Feb 17, 2012 5:56:06 GMT 12
More security being more proactive would be my attempt to calm things. And then watch the ticket price rise again... To the heavy drinkers on here who think it is okay to booze and swear and fight and push past for a piss every 20 minutes, I wish you would stay home and watch it online. You're not funny. Nor are you fun. You are mildly annoying at best and, at the worst, should be arrested for causing a public nuisance, which you would be if you were in the same state on the main street. Save your $50 each night, buy a Speedbox subscription and a box of beer, then pee on your own couch. |
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Post by Graeme Mead on Feb 17, 2012 6:14:28 GMT 12
Banning alcohol wont fix the problem, its the same at many events. the problem is the attitude and lack of social responsibility in many people who attend sports events, their lack of an ability to know when to say when, their lack of respect for other people around them and the racers and their mis- guided reasoning that their behaviour is acceptable. The reason it is getting worse is the rest of us accept it at the time. Again it is a small minority of people who spoil the event for the rest and that is not how it should be.
Perhaps that is why our society is like it is, no sense of basic responsibility, no respect for other people and its easier to look the other way. We cant blame the organisers, the suppliers or the venue, we have to blame ourselves as many ( not all) allow it to happen all around us and do nothing but complain after the fact. Lots heard me talk about the idiot, many saw him and he was photographed, but did anyone in the stand get security no they didn't. and just for the record Hughsey's photo is spot on the money.
Time this thread was locked and we go back to the positives about the meeting and look forward to next year, where there will be some great racing, some controversy, and some more idiots who cant handle their alcohol and try to spoil it for the many who know how to behave, but I will be there because it is one of the best speedway meetings in the country.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 7:20:42 GMT 12
Would be pretty easy to put a liquor ban on this event .
Start by banning the sales at the venue , security do a darn good job of ensuring it doesnt get brought through the gates.
Are people going to take the risk of smuggling booze in if theres a big chance of getting thrown out and missing the meeting.
A letter to the owners of Manawatu Arena with details of the crap the paying public have to deal with may change their views on the situation.
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Post by thereal888 on Feb 17, 2012 11:51:38 GMT 12
Yep some people just do t get it!
Wen has banning anything EVER worked!
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Post by Admin on Feb 17, 2012 14:51:46 GMT 12
I think the thread has done it's dash too so unless anyone has something new to add then it's put to bed.
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