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Post by supastocknut on Feb 10, 2014 22:36:46 GMT 12
Man....why did the All Blacks not think of this. imagine each player with a mask on and hard to read numbers at a quick glance!!! FFS stop thinking with a selfish mind and consider for one moment the majority who do not attend speedway every weekend!! but follow their local cars and major meetings so have an idea on who some of the drivers are. Now change that via number and body colour, the average person is now confused!! in my book this is NOT a good thing for our sport! Registered numbers is a must and agree that it is time paint scemes for teams are registered also! Teams racing is a major part in growing what could be a cash cow for our sport if marketed correctly. fast, hard hitting action with nuts loads of drama!!! FFS stop thinking with a selfish mind and consider for one moment the majority who do not attend speedway every weekend!!  ? MATE how about u stop being selfish and let these drivers and teams run TEAM numbers for a couple of bloody times a year. It's only a couple of times. Selfish on both sides you think? If I go to watch teams racing and let's say Wellington, I'm not there to watch one driver in the Wellington side, I'm there to watch the team. If one person wants to go watch Malcolm N from Chch race at a teams event and only Mal, they need to find out which number he is. Program or listen to the people on the mic and they can continue knowing that one drivers number change. One, i am not ya mate!! secondly if we all thought like you, nothing would go anywhere! so i guess in your little world all is great!! but to be honest i would rather see teams racing grow to be more than just once or twice a year and with good sponsorship behind each team. But i guess looking into the future for some is just an alien concept?? and before you say i am dreaming!! everything has to start somewhere....... i guess we could just close racing off to the public?? i wonder how many issues that idea would solve?? leave you with a quote from Sir Richard Branson........ "to grow big you must think small and pay attention to detail" but hey......what would he know??? |
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Post by busterbell on Feb 10, 2014 22:46:08 GMT 12
so a non regular that attends a teams meeting is suddenly going to recognise the drivers just because they are using their usual numbers?? if they don't know their 10p from their 5p then they are not really interested in who it actually is are they.........
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Post by tank11 on Feb 10, 2014 22:46:14 GMT 12
Considering the trouble he in .............../
So if Ritchie Macaw plays away from his normal position, does he take his jersey number with him?
Hmm, I don't think so.
Wingers play full back, centres swap around, do they keep THEIR numbers , hmm no.
So why the comparison to rugby?
And some of those faces could do with a mask......... lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 22:59:35 GMT 12
FFS stop thinking with a selfish mind and consider for one moment the majority who do not attend speedway every weekend!! ? MATE how about u stop being selfish and let these drivers and teams run TEAM numbers for a couple of bloody times a year. It's only a couple of times. Selfish on both sides you think? If I go to watch teams racing and let's say Wellington, I'm not there to watch one driver in the Wellington side, I'm there to watch the team. If one person wants to go watch Malcolm N from Chch race at a teams event and only Mal, they need to find out which number he is. Program or listen to the people on the mic and they can continue knowing that one drivers number change. One, i am not ya mate!! secondly if we all thought like you, nothing would go anywhere! so i guess in your little world all is great!! but to be honest i would rather see teams racing grow to be more than just once or twice a year and with good sponsorship behind each team. But i guess looking into the future for some is just an alien concept?? and before you say i am dreaming!! everything has to start somewhere....... i guess we could just close racing off to the public?? i wonder how many issues that idea would solve?? leave you with a quote from Sir Richard Branson........ "to grow big you must think small and pay attention to detail" but hey......what would he know??? There is also another quote "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" There are far bigger and more pressing concerns, this seems trivial, and does not really warrant changing in order to appease a very small minority. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2014 23:29:56 GMT 12
One, i am not ya mate!! secondly if we all thought like you, nothing would go anywhere! so i guess in your little world all is great!! but to be honest i would rather see teams racing grow to be more than just once or twice a year and with good sponsorship behind each team. But i guess looking into the future for some is just an alien concept?? and before you say i am dreaming!! everything has to start somewhere....... i guess we could just close racing off to the public?? i wonder how many issues that idea would solve?? leave you with a quote from Sir Richard Branson........ "to grow big you must think small and pay attention to detail" but hey......what would he know??? There is also another quote "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" There are far bigger and more pressing concerns, this seems trivial, and does not really warrant changing in order to appease a very small minority. Minority ?. Can you qualify that statement with any fact? . Pressing concerns?. Perhaps you mean smoke screens? |
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Post by stubbs5115 on Feb 11, 2014 0:36:20 GMT 12
Don't like the idea one bit, if they have to race their numbers then that means the letters also? So if that is the case then what happens if a team like say my mighty Waikato come back and they have a ring in? Does that mean we could have 4 cars running a H and one running a P, like say 43p like in the past? I honestly don't like this idea one bit keep the numbers up to the team I only agree with having no triple digits.
My 2 cents worth, Jordon Smith
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Post by BarryB on Feb 11, 2014 5:48:21 GMT 12
For me, I would prefer no numbers, just team colours, or a collective team number. It's about the team, not the individual. That'll really assist the manual back up lap scoring!!! I don't see 15 All Blacks wearing number 9........ Barry B |
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Post by tank11 on Feb 11, 2014 6:13:38 GMT 12
Don't like the idea one bit, if they have to race their numbers then that means the letters also? So if that is the case then what happens if a team like say my mighty Waikato come back and they have a ring in? Does that mean we could have 4 cars running a H and one running a P, like say 43p like in the past? I honestly don't like this idea one bit keep the numbers up to the team I only agree with having no triple digits. My 2 cents worth, Jordon Smith No 3 digit numbers will limit you to 10 teams.............. Each team should be allocated a sequence of numbers, ie Palmy 1-9, BP 11-19, HB 31-39 etc. |
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Post by 4zfed on Feb 11, 2014 6:17:30 GMT 12
It certainly appears so far by reading the current posts that going to registered numbers is not as popular as some of you make out.
If the general public need the program to look up who a team member is from another track cause they only no their local cars/drivers then they wont no who the other team drivers are with their registered numbers either because they only frequent there local tracks.
I agree triple digit is very tough to follow but think that the current team numbers works fine.
Its teams racing your not there to represent yourself..i actually thought the Welly team looked the hardest to follow by numbers if you were not a regular.
Be interesting to get some drivers views on the matter??
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Post by mcfly on Feb 11, 2014 6:26:44 GMT 12
I don't think the sequential team numbers are a bad thing, it allows bodies to be professionally prepared well before the event regardless of who will be in a team, marketing is easier, repeat team members always have the same number so it is not too hard to determine who is who. Even if two competing teams have similar colour schemes the sequential numbers make it easier to determine who is who.
However those horrible 3 didget numbers used in stockcars need to be thrown out in a real hurry
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Post by tony27 on Feb 11, 2014 7:00:48 GMT 12
It looks to me as though some teams use the same set of numbers every year & the fans associate that set with that team, eg gb uses 00,01,02,03,04 scrappers use 41,42,43,44,45.
No team uses 9 full numbers so there isn't any reason for triple digits which only seems to be a stockcar thing
I think the teams that run the same colour schemes for both classes make it easier to instantly identify the club they belong to, Auckland & Stratford are stand outs for that & so was Waikato, haven't used the panthers & pumas as examples due to number of black teams lately
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Post by ricardo63 on Feb 11, 2014 7:41:07 GMT 12
Hi all. I think that there is an easier way forward to apes all parties. I have watched some videos twice now from the weekend and still think I'm watching Rotorua when in fact it was Nelson, but I digress......
So a chart of registered colours for teams is definitely required. Watching a team with hastily improvised pink spots ruined some prior professional looking body work.
Cars to carry numbers on wings. Lap scorer required.
Driver name on both side panels. No numbers. Name to be ‘x’ high & legible. White on black only!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 8:19:25 GMT 12
Hi all. I think that there is any easier way forward to apes all parties. I have watched some videos twice now from the weekend and still think I'm watching Rotorua when in fact it was Nelson, but I digress...... So a chart of registered colours for teams is definitely required. Watching a team with hastily improvised pink spots ruined some prior professional looking body work. Cars to carry numbers on wings. Lap scorer required. Driver name on both side panels. No numbers. Name to be ‘x’ high & legible. White on black only!! I was thinking somthing similer as far as names go. I have long been a fan of getting rid of team #'s but some ppl make good points about keeping them. Would a good comprimise be that the surname of the driver has to go on the small panel right above the front window. In white on black or black on white. Look at most top level sports teams these days, the players have their names on their shirts eh. in the case of two members with same same an initial gets added I know occasionaly a 6th driver is needed, or a body gets ripped off but the chances of that happening to two cars in the same race is remote. I dunno about others but after a lap or two i'm trying to work out whos leading from each team and mix numbers up, names would be far easier to remember. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 11, 2014 8:26:07 GMT 12
2015 Teams Champs; Joblin, Joblin, Joblin, Rees, Rees, Rees, Miers and Miers. Even a first name initial doesn't work in the case of Simon and Scott!! I do like the idea of having the name on the car though, and have done ever since I went to England in 1989!!
Barry B
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 9:14:23 GMT 12
2015 Teams Champs; Joblin, Joblin, Joblin, Rees, Rees, Rees, Miers and Miers. Even a first name initial doesn't work in the case of Simon and Scott!! I do like the idea of having the name on the car though, and have done ever since I went to England in 1989!! Barry B A Joblin Scott Jobin Simon Joblin A Rees P Rees E Rees S Miers J Miers A lot of drivers have their name or what a name ppl can identify with in the same place on their regular race body anyway |
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Post by ricardo63 on Feb 11, 2014 9:33:25 GMT 12
If Palmy stopped in breeding & recycling family members it would be okay!!! So picky you lot. The concept I came up with was centered around markability. Names on the side of cars doesn't obstruct the nature of the race, coz basically if a driver gets a close up look at your name you'll be dead anyway.... More around TV coverage & picking out drivers easily.
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Post by Ben Biggs on Feb 11, 2014 9:43:05 GMT 12
Still wondering how a Rotorua and Nelson car could be confused... Thought the black and orange was pretty distinctive from the Rebels flag and red scheme. Mind you I am a one-eyed Nelsonian!
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Post by tony27 on Feb 11, 2014 9:44:06 GMT 12
Until they have a funny shaped ball on the track for the teams to chase around it won't make tv here in NZ without someone forking out thousands of dollars to a broadcaster
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Post by busterbell on Feb 11, 2014 9:59:14 GMT 12
Hi all. I think that there is an easier way forward to apes all parties. I have watched some videos twice now from the weekend and still think I'm watching Rotorua when in fact it was Nelson, but I digress...... you cannot be serious!!   |
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Post by ricardo63 on Feb 11, 2014 10:53:08 GMT 12
Hi all. I think that there is an easier way forward to apes all parties. I have watched some videos twice now from the weekend and still think I'm watching Rotorua when in fact it was Nelson, but I digress...... you cannot be serious!! I'm afraid I am, or am I loosing it?? I'm seriously questioning myself now. I'll find the link & watch more carefully. I also complain to the wife as well that when watching the Tigers I can never ever pick out Ewers, even though I know he is 85N. Caveat : I can only watch videos as not in NZ & some of the lighting isn't the best. Clutching at straws here...... |
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