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Post by BarryB on Nov 26, 2014 7:25:01 GMT 12
Who were the 2 9p,s Barry? So you could have 2 teams with the same numbers on both sides? Lapscore a race with the Panthers versus the Hawkeyes..all B,s and P,s... wont get confusing you all think?? 9b and 9p.. 35b and 35p?? Was Panthers versus the Mustangs, Shane Penn and Bundy from memory. Barry B |
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Post by speedwayfan on Nov 26, 2014 19:43:26 GMT 12
Who were the 2 9p,s Barry? So you could have 2 teams with the same numbers on both sides? Lapscore a race with the Panthers versus the Hawkeyes..all B,s and P,s... wont get confusing you all think?? 9b and 9p.. 35b and 35p?? Was Panthers versus the Mustangs, Shane Penn and Bundy from memory. Barry B You are correct Barry. |
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Post by Regan O'Brien on Nov 26, 2014 20:09:02 GMT 12
At least with team numbers you don't have to be ripping the number off every season. Look at the allstars and how long they have had there bodies and one body just bounces from one car to another, imagine the cost of re numbering them.
I think its stupid running your own number, I'M IN A TEAM !!
Don't see Richie playing number 8 wearing number 7 at the start of a game cause number 7 is his normal number lol.
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Nov 26, 2014 20:13:41 GMT 12
At least with team numbers you don't have to be ripping the number off every season. Look at the allstars and how long they have had there bodies and one body just bounces from one car to another, imagine the cost of re numbering them. I think its stupid running your own number, I'M IN A TEAM !! Don't see Richie playing number 8 wearing number 7 at the start of a game cause number 7 is his normal number lol. Thats why you are 52B and not 52A 52C 52D. |
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Post by beachboy on Nov 26, 2014 20:15:35 GMT 12
Teams have been running there own numbers at teams champs more many years now, the only difference last year was that Palmy lost and the Busters cars looked better, so something has to change.
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Post by beachboy on Nov 26, 2014 20:24:03 GMT 12
The teams should keep there own numbers as they have now but the outside of wing facing crowd should have drivers name in big readable writing that way the crowd and commentators will pick up straight away who they are and this will mean less changes required to team car bodies.
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Post by mordecai on Nov 26, 2014 20:35:13 GMT 12
nope once ya see the teams in feb with there new numbers you well love it
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Post by Ben Biggs on Nov 26, 2014 21:19:48 GMT 12
This year when the Auckland Allstars raced Palmy (and subsequently beat them... something that pleases a Tigers fan greatly), both teams had the exact same numbers. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9... if I recall correctly (i even think the two reserves ended up being identical). And from the paper article after this years Team Champs - the reason given for running "club night car numbers" rather than a set of "team numbers", wasnt just to piss off all you die-hard, hard-core fans, it was to make the event more user friendly for the casual attendee, whom may not follow speedway and all the drivers with the fine tooth comb and magnifying glass that some of the nitpickers and supersleuths on this site do and encourage them to come along to the races and be made to feel welcome and included. (if i could be ass'd Id go and find the article and post it here, but I cant be) I'll be able to follow the 18N, 46N, 85N and 186N quite well I believe. Does anyone need me to tell them who those drivers are?  I must admit it feels quite good getting all this off of my chest. Rant over LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 21:25:51 GMT 12
I didn't think I needed to add to this...I don't get what all the complaining messages are about... The idea of a team having a set of numbers is the best idea they have had... Then you know every say Stratford car will be 40-46 Palmy 5-10 and so on...Its not that hard if you are a supporter like you all say you are to know who your favourite driver is in the Number. maybe your local track should be telling you who no.8 in "your " team is or no.33 or whatever.. If they all run original numbers you will have double ups of numbers which then ruins lap scoring if the electronics go out..Is it really such a big issue. ? If you are such a supporter then you will find out and know who is actually in your Team......Maybe Teams need to supply better Car/driver info so it can be put more clearly in the programme...and this is a "Team" event...so don't you think it would be easier for the opposition to pick off drivers by their normal number..Shane Penn would be easy to spot as 1nz? personally I think the cars look great all matching and the Number gives you annominity from other team you are racing.. Just my thought on it all.. I think most lap scorers would like a bit of credit that they can manually lap score a race involving just 8 cars, only a couple of whom will be going flat out, with a double up or two of number. As an aside I have seen a teams races with not only similer colour car bodys but 3 number double ups in the past. I for one think this is a blimmin good move to go back to your own "normal race number". I am fairly simple minded and when I have to remember new numbers for drivers as well as other stuff, like breathe in breathe out every few seconds, my name & where I live, well something has to give and it's normally who's who in a teams race. Changing teams racing numbers wont improve you old age issues, you've survived this long whats a couple more years old fella  Our sport faces so many bigger and more important issues, I can't believe oxygen has been given to this. Some things need to change, and some things (like teams numbers) need to stay the same. |
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Post by Ben Biggs on Nov 26, 2014 22:48:02 GMT 12
"Promoter Bruce Robertson said there would be one major change to next year's Teams Champs and the next big superstock event the Teams nationals at Auckland with every car having to carry their registered car number, not a team number.
"It's too difficult for fans to recognise the drivers with them carrying different numbers to what they usually have," Robertson said. "Even I have trouble identifying who is who." "
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Post by mordecai on Nov 27, 2014 5:18:17 GMT 12
"Promoter Bruce Robertson said there would be one major change to next year's Teams Champs and the next big superstock event the Teams nationals at Auckland with every car having to carry their registered car number, not a team number. "It's too difficult for fans to recognise the drivers with them carrying different numbers to what they usually have," Robertson said. "Even I have trouble identifying who is who." " yes im in full support of this change |
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Post by Regan O'Brien on Nov 27, 2014 8:06:10 GMT 12
so if I registered as 52b and 32b then I can run either?
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Post by knownotmuch on Nov 27, 2014 12:35:41 GMT 12
Now that's a cunning plan Regan. I can see why team members want team numbers to fit in with the environment teams are wanting to create. Can also see the reasoning behind the change, hopefully the promoter concerned will be stumping up a bit of extra cash for the teams to change numbers, possibly several times as personnel change.
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Post by tank11 on Nov 27, 2014 13:14:36 GMT 12
I'm with Regan on this, as he said Mr McCaw plays 6,7 and 8.
So wears the number where he starts the game.
It is a team sport, no a Ritchie and the rest game.
Teams are the same, Regan feels pride in racing as 32b, maybe more proud than 52b?
I don't think one car can register as 2 numbers Regan.
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Post by BarryB on Nov 27, 2014 13:24:06 GMT 12
I'm with Regan on this, as he said Mr McCaw plays 6,7 and 8. So wears the number where he starts the game. It is a team sport, no a Ritchie and the rest game. Teams are the same, Regan feels pride in racing as 32b, maybe more proud than 52b? I don't think one car can register as 2 numbers Regan. Yes, but a rugby player does not run out on the field in two different guises; 1/ as an individual one weekend 2/ as a member of a team the next He is ALWAYS on the field as a member of a team. A stockcar driver is on the track far more regularly as an individual than as a team member (99% of them anyway). Barry B |
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Post by boner87 on Nov 27, 2014 13:46:31 GMT 12
Last time I checked at the start of the meeting there is a grand parade so everyone know who is on what car. I think the confusion for "non regulars" to speedway is the like of rotorua with the same numbers but in different order compared with palmy or Nelson etc which run in a sequence. Shouldn't a team run in team numbers and colours. Only reason you wouldn't want to as the case for a couple of team that maybe can't afford new bodies or have got ring ins etc
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 14:10:37 GMT 12
Last time I checked at the start of the meeting there is a grand parade so everyone know who is on what car. I think the confusion for "non regulars" to speedway is the like of rotorua with the same numbers but in different order compared with palmy or Nelson etc which run in a sequence. Shouldn't a team run in team numbers and colours. Only reason you wouldn't want to as the case for a couple of team that maybe can't afford new bodies or have got ring ins etc unless I know the driver, or he is already in his race suit I have trouble picking out which of the many ppl on the car is actually the driver, and even if i Know the name I don't always know the face. EDIT: I know it's not from the meeting being discussed but it may as well be. If this car had a team body and team #, how would you know who it was?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 14:14:08 GMT 12
I'm with Regan on this, as he said Mr McCaw plays 6,7 and 8. So wears the number where he starts the game. It is a team sport, no a Ritchie and the rest game. Teams are the same, Regan feels pride in racing as 32b, maybe more proud than 52b? I don't think one car can register as 2 numbers Regan. Apples & oranges Mr T, he wears that # because thats the position he plays, If he was to play hooker in a game he would come out wearing #2. If we go down that track all designated runners should carry #1 and blockers #4 |
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Post by Admin on Nov 27, 2014 14:15:44 GMT 12
Last time I checked at the start of the meeting there is a grand parade so everyone know who is on what car. I think the confusion for "non regulars" to speedway is the like of rotorua with the same numbers but in different order compared with palmy or Nelson etc which run in a sequence. Shouldn't a team run in team numbers and colours. Only reason you wouldn't want to as the case for a couple of team that maybe can't afford new bodies or have got ring ins etc Sure , we have a snap shot of the teams drivers during the grand parade if we happen to know a driver by sight and we've kept up with the commentary but for the likes of Palmy Teams committing 60 plus drivers driving 60 cars in team colours and numbers to memory is just not going to happen. At least with rugby matches etc. we can see the faces of the players. Not so with speedway obviously. Years ago it was easy to recognise a car by it's design , not so now with most being clones of each other. It's all so anonymous now. I can however live with the team numbers if the drivers names are displayed on the cars in large font on the crowd side wing or body. |
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Post by mrnizmo86 on Nov 27, 2014 14:33:23 GMT 12
The Team GB cars had that last season and i thought was great idea!
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I must admit it feels quite good getting all this off of my chest. Rant over LOL 
