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Jan 11, 2015 7:50:07 GMT 12
Post by beachboy on Jan 11, 2015 7:50:07 GMT 12
tanks 1nz super and stock. First time thats happened at a guess hybird tank's
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Post by Row on Jan 11, 2015 8:26:25 GMT 12
Palmy 1 2 3 4 in both supers and stocks where's the haters now Not so much haters but it does become a little tedious and somewhat predictable thereby potentially making these events less of a specactle when everyone knows where the winner will come from.
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Jan 11, 2015 8:44:37 GMT 12
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Post by stealth on Jan 11, 2015 8:44:37 GMT 12
Palmy 1 2 3 4 in both supers and stocks where's the haters now Not so much haters but it does become a little tedious and somewhat predictable thereby potentially making these events less of a specactle when everyone knows where the winner will come from. too right row, just like when ferrari won everything In formula one, or when the young guns won the teams year after year. It does lose its appeal. But full credit to the palmy boys, the cream always rises to the top. The combination of top machinery and great drivers is hard to beat, would just be nice to see a little more bumper work to stop them.
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Jan 11, 2015 9:03:23 GMT 12
Post by Skorp on Jan 11, 2015 9:03:23 GMT 12
tanks 1nz super and stock. First time thats happened at a guess hybird tank's Just curious, what makes them hybrid tanks?
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Jan 11, 2015 9:14:27 GMT 12
Post by HIGHWAY45 on Jan 11, 2015 9:14:27 GMT 12
Watching the Superstock and Stock car NZ finals (3rd heats in particular) is pretty much like watching a Palmy club night. The front 5-6 cars battling out for final positions is all P cars.
They will keep winning as long as they keep getting a majority of cars in the finals as they do. Unless other clubs rally together and race for each other etc.
Asher was insanely quick at the Supers also. He won 2 qualifying heats after a DNF and just missed out in the reps. Then dominated 2nd tier so it is no surprise he won NZ Stocks.
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Post by craig on Jan 11, 2015 9:27:44 GMT 12
Just curious, what makes them hybrid tanks? beachboy wrote hybird not hybrid. So that's taken to mean he acknowledges that they can fly....as in go fast....
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Jan 11, 2015 9:28:04 GMT 12
Post by Wildcat on Jan 11, 2015 9:28:04 GMT 12
Well done to Asher and the other P boys Just a bummer the 1st heat final pile up took out 3 major players 98W Blake Elliot ,98P Humpreys 14N S Harwood and 2 others removed from track due to that stoppage ,
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Post by alloyplatypus on Jan 11, 2015 9:35:09 GMT 12
For those complaining about the Bumper work, it sounds like there was an insane amount going on over the weekend! Palmy just has so much depth, speed and reliability that they perservered. Think 1NZ and 2NZ were both non qualifiers, and Peter Rees barely made it thru. In the finals it sounds like people went after all of the old hands leaving the new young guns to shine. Often people complain about noone hitting Peter Rees.. well they did.. just there were 4 young fellas from his club to follow through.
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Jan 11, 2015 10:00:07 GMT 12
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Post by tigersfan on Jan 11, 2015 10:00:07 GMT 12
I agree with row also shear weight of numbers was always goin to be a palmy 1, 2, 3 4 ... Sure id luv to see the sth island boys work together but with 24 vs 6 It was always goin to end badly ... at least a p car won't win the super saloons next week lol mainland boys bring it home !!
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Post by beachboy on Jan 11, 2015 10:05:04 GMT 12
Palmy 1 2 3 4 in both supers and stocks where's the haters now Just need some teams titles now aye
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Jan 11, 2015 10:08:47 GMT 12
Post by mcfly on Jan 11, 2015 10:08:47 GMT 12
Just curious, what makes them hybrid tanks? Have a look at the construction. They appear to be essentially a flat chassis with sheet panelling - check out the main chassis rails and the way the side rails are held in place. The original tanks were all 3mm sheet construction, although it does appear that there is a reasonable amount of RHS in the KP tanks now as well.
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Jan 11, 2015 10:37:52 GMT 12
Post by muncho on Jan 11, 2015 10:37:52 GMT 12
Palmy 1 2 3 4 in both supers and stocks where's the haters now Just need some teams titles now aye hold You may not have to wait too long.........and last time I checked they won Auckland teams last year.
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Jan 11, 2015 16:38:50 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 16:38:50 GMT 12
Bang on Munch , few people got Alzheimers on here .. Lol.. Fairky good chance they will cleanup at Palmy Teams too..
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Jan 11, 2015 16:49:16 GMT 12
Post by RC on Jan 11, 2015 16:49:16 GMT 12
Just curious, what makes them hybrid tanks? Have a look at the construction. They appear to be essentially a flat chassis with sheet panelling - check out the main chassis rails and the way the side rails are held in place. The original tanks were all 3mm sheet construction, although it does appear that there is a reasonable amount of RHS in the KP tanks now as well. they are tanks there is very small amount of rhs alot of it including the main top rails are folded corten plate and the setup is like a space frame not a flaty
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Jan 11, 2015 18:52:21 GMT 12
Post by beachboy on Jan 11, 2015 18:52:21 GMT 12
Have a look at the construction. They appear to be essentially a flat chassis with sheet panelling - check out the main chassis rails and the way the side rails are held in place. The original tanks were all 3mm sheet construction, although it does appear that there is a reasonable amount of RHS in the KP tanks now as well. they are tanks there is very small amount of rhs alot of it including the main top rails are folded corten plate and the setup is like a space frame not a flaty "Spank's" then
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Jan 11, 2015 19:31:10 GMT 12
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Post by The Godfather on Jan 11, 2015 19:31:10 GMT 12
Certainly I was surprised how little action there was in the third heat, with the Mooney/Gaskin/Rees battle never eventuating. Only top non P car I saw having a decent dig was the ex 3nz
As a means to answering why qualifying produced more hits than finals night, a lot of the cars (mainly SI) were realistic about making it into the big show.
That was their only chance to have an influence on the outcome and so came out swinging.
As said above though the cream always rises to the top, congrats to the new 1,2 and 3nz
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Jan 11, 2015 21:43:48 GMT 12
Post by petero on Jan 11, 2015 21:43:48 GMT 12
why was qualifying so much better
OMG
did the trip south 4 seasons ago, NZ Streeties, then NZ stockcars n NZ GP
two seasons ago NZ Stockcars, NZ Streeties, NZ Stockcar GP n NZ Super Stocks
it was a N v S battle from heat 1 in all qualifying, best racing I have ever seen,
If you have never seen the NZ Streeties in the south island (add 12 NI streeties in Dunedin) you do not know what you have been missing
history says S will battle the N in qualifying ( and well worth the watch !!!) however N will dominate when it matters.
as has been the case
well done Asher, only got to look at last weekend to see how good he can be
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 11, 2015 22:27:04 GMT 12
Are you talking N (nelson) vs S (stratford), oh no Nth vs Sth.
I understand your logic, but by now everybody that turns up to run that event must be sick of the P?
I think it will require a combined track approach to break this. Maybe cars go there to target P cars from the get go. ( high profile ones especially) That will limit their dominance in numbers for the finals. Then finals every person for themselves to start and then attack the P, as their own title hope diminish.
You may think that is unfair, but it exactly what the Palmy guys are doing to the others. They use their numbers to beat the opposition. N,S,B,M,V,N,C,A etc etc are all picked off and 30% of the finals are P cars. Then 30% of the P cars are used to beat 2%, 5%, 7%, 12%, 2% etc etc up to the other 70%.
Congrats to the P guys that made it work. Good cars, good drivers, and good assistance.
I don't think this is rocket science, it's bumper science. Until the above approach happens expect 1234P with the odd exception for a while.
My tactic does have a flaw as car on car they are very good aswell at teams. Admittedly they have great drivers and cars, but you would have thought 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 you stood a chance, but they are doing well in that for stocks and superstocks. That is why I will support Gizzy ( my origin, and with cars that battled against numbers, and BP ( especially the Busters ) as that's where I reside now ), and every other team that races Palmy.
I must add, I have full respect for the Palmy cars that put everything on the line.
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Jan 12, 2015 19:51:52 GMT 12
Post by stockie57 on Jan 12, 2015 19:51:52 GMT 12
just watched the vids of the nz's and was just wondering how the old 1nz got third when he was rolled in one of the races. Normally you get rolled you dont have much of a chance. Just wondering?
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Jan 12, 2015 19:56:50 GMT 12
Post by tony27 on Jan 12, 2015 19:56:50 GMT 12
just watched the vids of the nz's and was just wondering how the old 1nz got third when he was rolled in one of the races. Normally you get rolled you dont have much of a chance. Just wondering? Jayden was rolled in a qualifying heat race & got through to the final via the repecharge the next day
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