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Post by supersaloontragic on Jan 8, 2015 14:51:49 GMT 12
Interesting to see 3 Macgors members have picked their qualifiers and not even a mention of Blondie Hasn't really shown much, I'll be waiting to make sure it's allowed to race before I go putting the house on him though |
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Post by TrevG on Jan 8, 2015 15:58:31 GMT 12
Interesting to see 3 Macgors members have picked their qualifiers and not even a mention of Blondie I guess the known, the car Blondie appears to have a huge fan club, so I guess someone will know if he has completed 3 meetings at a track licensed to run Super Saloons. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 8, 2015 16:30:29 GMT 12
I guess the known, the car Blondie appears to have a huge fan club, so I guess someone will know if he has completed 3 meetings at a track licensed to run Super Saloons. Blondie says he has the required meetings in his log book. |
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Post by Super Salooncar Fan on Jan 8, 2015 17:27:29 GMT 12
Blondie appears to have a huge fan club, so I guess someone will know if he has completed 3 meetings at a track licensed to run Super Saloons. Blondie says he has the required meetings in his log book. Has he run with super saloons?, i know hes run with salooncars. |
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Post by dirt1 on Jan 8, 2015 19:52:55 GMT 12
Unfortunately what is in a drivers log book and what has actually happened is often 2 different things  Practices dont count. Must have raced 3 meetings. A race means there must be 2 or more cars and super saloons cant race with saloons. Saloons can run with supers so unless his home track have rum super saloons and allowed saloons to run with them then it doesnt count does it? |
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Post by Admin on Jan 8, 2015 20:18:30 GMT 12
Unfortunately what is in a drivers log book and what has actually happened is often 2 different things Practices dont count. Must have raced 3 meetings. A race means there must be 2 or more cars and super saloons cant race with saloons. Saloons can run with supers so unless his home track have rum super saloons and allowed saloons to run with them then it doesnt count does it? Perhaps you can point something else out in the rule book. All I can see is. M3-3-1 Different classes can run together, providing the vehicles are of a similar nature. M3-3-2 Agreement to do this must be in the form of a unanimous decision between:- (i) the competitors in the classes concerned (ii) the track promotion (iii) permission being received from the SNZ Office. |
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Post by dps on Jan 8, 2015 21:33:07 GMT 12
Bay Champs this weekend at baypark for Super Saloons... really if Blondie was serious about this title he would of at least ran in a full field of supers before hand to test his car, well this weekend is the chance...
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Post by kwikchange on Jan 8, 2015 22:18:47 GMT 12
Bay Champs this weekend at baypark for Super Saloons... really if Blondie was serious about this title he would of at least ran in a full field of supers before hand to test his car, well this weekend is the chance... Blondie must be serious about something as he's entered the GP at Huntly as well, will be interesting to see if he does the North Islands at Wacky Park? |
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Post by nakifans on Jan 9, 2015 6:56:34 GMT 12
Unfortunately what is in a drivers log book and what has actually happened is often 2 different things Practices dont count. Must have raced 3 meetings. A race means there must be 2 or more cars and super saloons cant race with saloons. Saloons can run with supers so unless his home track have rum super saloons and allowed saloons to run with them then it doesnt count does it? Perhaps you can point something else out in the rule book. All I can see is. M3-3-1 Different classes can run together, providing the vehicles are of a similar nature. M3-3-2 Agreement to do this must be in the form of a unanimous decision between:- (i) the competitors in the classes concerned (ii) the track promotion (iii) permission being received from the SNZ Office. I recall reading on another thread that the saloon section at Stratford had used section [ 1] of M3-3-2 and stopped Blondie racing with the saloon class there. As far as I've read to date he hasn't raced with supers, so if that is correct he most certainly will be leaping into the deep end at the NZ's. My thinking is that Blondie's car going thru scrutinising will be the most watched one by fellow competitors and spectators alike. |
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Post by bikeboy on Jan 9, 2015 7:44:51 GMT 12
the Blondie situation is interesting for sure, he has a pedigree like no other, I have not seen the car in the flesh but the videos on here shows it was on pace with reasonable saloons, which are a fair bit slower than the best super saloons, as for the car passing the tech inspection, i bet there will be a crowd, and upset people either way,
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Post by Admin on Jan 9, 2015 10:05:20 GMT 12
I recall reading on another thread that the saloon section at Stratford had used section [ 1] of M3-3-2 and stopped Blondie racing with the saloon class there. As far as I've read to date he hasn't raced with supers, so if that is correct he most certainly will be leaping into the deep end at the NZ's. My thinking is that Blondie's car going thru scrutinising will be the most watched one by fellow competitors and spectators alike. I gather it was one saloon driver that objected and one is all it takes. I would hope scrutineering will be straight forward given the car has been green sheeted and scrutineered at at least 2 different tracks by SNZ |
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Post by TrevG on Jan 9, 2015 10:32:07 GMT 12
Yes Kane Lawson will be in 6c. Can Blondie race in someone elses car and still count towards the 3 meetings? Yes, you only have to race in the class, not necessarily in your own car. Let's do it on the terracotta, Barry B This is all very interesting.We are all wanting to see Blondie race against todays Ace drivers, and would hate to see him not be able to race through some technicality that may arise.But because of lack of info this leads to a lot of speculation. For instance Stratford does not list Super saloons as a class.so, does it require a license to run that class? If Blondie cruised around behind the Saloons he obviously can't race the saloons so who did he race. Like, can you race yourself or would you have to say have two or more cars of that class to have raced? And if he didn't officially complete 3 races at Stratford he must have raced against Super Saloons at another track which we don' appear to know. |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 9, 2015 10:35:16 GMT 12
TrevG, it probably doesn't matter what actually happened, but what's in the log book. Historically I think that's often the case....
Barry B
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Post by Gordon on Jan 9, 2015 11:50:40 GMT 12
about an hour ago macgor said.
I would hope scrutineering will be straight forward given the car has been green sheeted and scrutineered at at least 2 different tracks by SNZ
I recall in Nelson for the NZ,s a couple of Hypermacs where pulled up at scrutineering for over width (I think) and had to ulter side bars, these to had been green sheeted. So on the day who knows what could be found on what cars
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Post by jimmyj on Jan 9, 2015 12:45:33 GMT 12
I thought I read some where Blondies car was a modified chassis ,How is that allowed ??
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Post by Admin on Jan 9, 2015 12:55:47 GMT 12
I thought I read some where Blondies car was a modified chassis ,How is that allowed ?? I guess you if you build to comply with the rule book it's allowed. A Super Saloon is pretty much anything these days it seem. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 9, 2015 13:02:08 GMT 12
about an hour ago macgor said. I would hope scrutineering will be straight forward given the car has been green sheeted and scrutineered at at least 2 different tracks by SNZ I recall in Nelson for the NZ,s a couple of Hypermacs where pulled up at scrutineering for over width (I think) and had to ulter side bars, these to had been green sheeted. So on the day who knows what could be found on what cars Seen it happen many times myself , but I remain optimistic. lol Seriously though given who the driver is and what it is he has built I would expect SNZ has gone out of it's way to make sure the car is all good by now. Call it good PR to avoid the bad PR that could result from the public not getting to see the car run at the Champs. Proactive versus Reactive. There's that bloody optimism again. |
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Post by bikeboy on Jan 9, 2015 14:54:53 GMT 12
about an hour ago macgor said. I would hope scrutineering will be straight forward given the car has been green sheeted and scrutineered at at least 2 different tracks by SNZ I recall in Nelson for the NZ,s a couple of Hypermacs where pulled up at scrutineering for over width (I think) and had to ulter side bars, these to had been green sheeted. So on the day who knows what could be found on what cars Seen it happen many times myself , but I remain optimistic. lol Seriously though given who the driver is and what it is he has built I would expect SNZ has gone out of it's way to make sure the car is all good by now. Call it good PR to avoid the bad PR that could result from the public not getting to see the car run at the Champs. Proactive versus Reactive. There's that bloody optimism again. a green sheet is more of a saftey check, rather than a check for legality, i know they don't measure the cars, which they will do at the NZ champs, i have seen cars having to be modifed at the track to meet the measurements that were in thier log book, its up to the driver to make sure his car is legal, and the local green sheeter is not always the best judge of that, |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 15:13:59 GMT 12
This whole "3 meetings" rule is just one of those bloody stupid rules that should be sent to file 13
I imagine it was brought in to stop some "bloody Yank" or "F*n greasy Daggo" from waltzing in and beating us Kiwis at our own game,in our own backyard.
Maybe have a championship endorsement on your license when the local stewards think your racing is of a standard that means you can race safely in a good field. Once you have that endorsement, u have it for life.
It just seems like small minded thinking that you would hold so much envy against someone as to not want them to compete in an NZ title, and if envy is not the reason for it - feel free to tell me what the reason is.
I'll come right out and say it, I don't think Blondie will be in the top 30 at the NZ's (would be rapt to be proved wrong tho) but don't deny the man the chance he deserves cause of the envy of a few many years ago.
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Post by Super Salooncar Fan on Jan 9, 2015 15:49:01 GMT 12
This whole "3 meetings" rule is just one of those bloody stupid rules that should be sent to file 13 I imagine it was brought in to stop some "bloody Yank" or "F*n greasy Daggo" from waltzing in and beating us Kiwis at our own game,in our own backyard. Maybe have a championship endorsement on your license when the local stewards think your racing is of a standard that means you can race safely in a good field. Once you have that endorsement, u have it for life. It just seems like small minded thinking that you would hold so much envy against someone as to not want them to compete in an NZ title, and if envy is not the reason for it - feel free to tell me what the reason is. I'll come right out and say it, I don't think Blondie will be in the top 30 at the NZ's (would be rapt to be proved wrong tho) but don't deny the man the chance he deserves cause of the envy of a few many years ago. You seem to have missed the point, as long as he meets the rules, if he doesnt have to then change the rules so its the same for all. |
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Practices dont count. Must have raced 3 meetings. A race means there must be 2 or more cars and super saloons cant race with saloons. Saloons can run with supers so unless his home track have rum super saloons and allowed saloons to run with them then it doesnt count does it?
