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Post by jimmyj on Jan 18, 2015 8:37:32 GMT 12
He and the car were miles away ,Won't happen
If he was serious he should buy his old car back of Lance Jennings at least that goes around corners fast as we saw last night
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 8:41:00 GMT 12
He and the car were miles away ,Won't happen lol - I'll take that bet!!! He'll be up to speed at huntly, got to remember he only did one race down there and still managed to be in the top ten for lap times - that cars no slouch. |
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Post by jimmyj on Jan 18, 2015 8:42:52 GMT 12
No bets allowed but will catch you at huntly and could discuss the issue   So what is he going to do run under special dispensation the rest of the season ,?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 8:44:52 GMT 12
No bets allowed but will catch you at huntly and could discuss the issue Sweet - I'll be down by turn 2, look forward to it!!  |
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Post by quin10 on Jan 18, 2015 8:46:46 GMT 12
He and the car were miles away ,Won't happen lol - I'll take that bet!!! He'll be up to speed at huntly, got to remember he only did one race down there and still managed to be in the top ten for lap times - that cars no slouch. Thanks rhodesta. Hope he proves all you haters/doubters wrong. |
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Post by midway on Jan 18, 2015 8:51:24 GMT 12
Succeeded? Mate, . Remember pentionor. Remember budget. Sounds a little like blondie into wine making as well |
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Post by saloon14b on Jan 18, 2015 9:14:08 GMT 12
Why does SNZ expose themselves and our sport to needless risks? If the car does not comply with the rules, it shouldn't race - no special dispensation, especially for a safety item like a hip plate (and/or roll cage). If an accident happened, SNZ would have needlessly put our sport at risk as OSH/Worksafe and authorities would jump on the fack that a car that does not comply with the safety rules being allowed to run. I don't care if there were other bars in place- the authorities won't care either if an accident happens - a non compliant car being allowed to race is still a non compliant car!
Ignoring our own rulebook makes our sport moke likely to run foul of the authorities when the brown stuff hits the whirly thing.
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Post by jimmyj on Jan 18, 2015 9:31:13 GMT 12
All this seems to be like always in our sport it is not what but WHO you know as to how far you make it up the ladder .Why it happens I don't know but s n z wonder why they have problems with the people in hats at tracks .Go figure
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2015 9:31:37 GMT 12
Hard to imagine a modified rollcage would be more unsafe than a saloon one.
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Post by quin10 on Jan 18, 2015 9:33:25 GMT 12
Cant have been that b ig of a deal or snz would have obviously said he could not race.
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Post by tank11 on Jan 18, 2015 9:41:08 GMT 12
Hard to imagine a modified rollcage would be more unsafe than a saloon one. Exactly what I was thinking, they both do about the same speed and wouldn't be far off weights. |
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Post by jimmyj on Jan 18, 2015 9:44:16 GMT 12
Apparently has something to do with the side plate a saloon has that modifieds don't .Not sure definately so don't quote me on it /
Any what way they should not have let him race unfair to all others ,
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Post by saloon14b on Jan 18, 2015 9:55:37 GMT 12
IMO it doesn't matter if its as safe or not. Ruleas are rules. If the worst happened, the examining body or bodies (who likely won't be speedway people) will only see as far as car not built to rules for class therefore non compliant, and the brown stuff will hit the fan for having a non-compliant car racing.
If we aren't going to enforce the rulebook strictly in regards to safety and design then our rules are meaningless and our rulemaking body will be seen as meaningless and be regarded as unsuitable to regulate our sport. Then the fun police will step in and that'll be it!
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Post by regulus on Jan 18, 2015 9:55:52 GMT 12
I have found this thread very interesting with the odd bit of entertainment thrown in. I also wish Blondie well with this project. However I am a follower of Stock cars The question i now ask are the modified hip plates safe
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2015 9:56:27 GMT 12
Apparently has something to do with the side plate a saloon has that modifieds don't .Not sure definately so don't quote me on it / My slow brain thinks that because in a saloon the driver sits close to the left side of the car he needs protection on that side. The modified driver sits in the middle of the car and safe from both sides so doesn't need the side protection so much. Blondie is sitting safely in the middle of his modified clothed in a saloon body. The book may say he needs protection both sides because he is calling his car a saloon but the reality is he probably is as safe as he ever was(or even safer) in his modified. A dispensation for side protection and what ever else was technically wrong with the roll cage seems reasonable. You could even mount a case for putting all saloon drivers into the middle of their cars to improve safety. |
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Post by OldSaloonCarsWanted on Jan 18, 2015 10:03:58 GMT 12
Apparently has something to do with the side plate a saloon has that modifieds don't .Not sure definately so don't quote me on it / Any what way they should not have let him race unfair to all others , Most people would not have even been bothered following the show with so much interest if Blondie wasn't included. He is the only 'Old' competitor that has a massive following. Im sure Blondie is happy with the safety of the Beautiful creation he has crafted. He shouldn't even need any bar work or hip plates right down the right hand side of the craft. SNZ is the boss and they wouldn't put anyone in harms way so just leave the weak gripe and move on.  Cheers NB . Macgor has edited out the put down to other competitors that was included in this post. No need to do that to make a point. |
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Post by saloon14b on Jan 18, 2015 10:40:27 GMT 12
A dispensation for side protection and what ever else was technically wrong with the roll cage seems reasonable. . I'm sorry Macgor, but I disagree. Seems reasonable? to who? Not to me it doesn't I am a saloon competitor. I have to build my car to comply with the saloon rules as set out in the rulebook. If the rule says I need a sideplate and a rolecage of x shape and construction, then thats what I must have. Thats the parameters I agreed to when I call my car a saloon and race on SNZ tracks. If Blondie wants to race as a super saloon, then the car needs to compy with the Super Saloon rules as set out in the rulebook. Every other Super saloon has to comply with those rules. It seems reasonable to me that Blondie's car should comply with them too. Every other car in the country is built to compy with them, To give a dispensation on safety items puts a real risk to the sport. Imagine the legal arguement which would ensue if someting bad happened and they said "Why was the car not constructed according to the rulebook for this class, rules which have been developed and modified over time due to engineering reports, accident data and technical evaluations" I'm sorry, but the response" It didn't comply but we thought it was safe on the night" will not satisfy the legal profession and will expose our sport to significant trouble trouble. |
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Post by regulus on Jan 18, 2015 10:47:07 GMT 12
If said "non hip plate" is not safe for Saloons how can it be safe for a modified?
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Post by jimmyj on Jan 18, 2015 10:48:37 GMT 12
MacGor in Lance's new car he sits a long way closer to the centre of than his old car ,A lot safer but still has a door plate
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2015 10:57:22 GMT 12
MacGor in Lance's new car he sits a long way closer to the centre of than his old car ,A lot safer but still has a door plate I thought the issue was with not having a right side plate of the right type? |
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