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Post by tank11 on May 19, 2015 22:20:37 GMT 12
Can't see $500.00 being enough, you can't buy the parts eg:rings bearins,gaskets let alone put it together, more like $1000.00, but personally I have to agree with Hermo a holiday will sort it out $600 a year is what I spent on just a internal check and refresh. Yep, holiday will sort the lot. |
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Post by tank11 on May 19, 2015 22:25:37 GMT 12
Absolutely NOT Chris, the rules STATE . DONOR CARS, even utes are ruled out, specifically. So if the heads ARE from a forklift, they ARE illegal, no ifs or buts. Are you honestly having trouble comprehending this fact or winding me up? there are atleast 12 different a12 engines that have differences that come out in b210 and b310 datsuns. It doesn't matter how many a12 models there are, each model will have engine block numbers, head numbers, etc. If numbers missing illegal or don't match manufactures make and model, stand down counts. The rule is simple, only parts from donor CARS can be used. If dad or the engine builder decides to use ute or industrial parts, the stand down counts. |
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Post by Rusty on May 20, 2015 11:38:28 GMT 12
there are atleast 12 different a12 engines that have differences that come out in b210 and b310 datsuns. It doesn't matter how many a12 models there are, each model will have engine block numbers, head numbers, etc. If numbers missing illegal or don't match manufactures make and model, stand down counts. The rule is simple, only parts from donor CARS can be used. If dad or the engine builder decides to use ute or industrial parts, the stand down counts. b210 and b310 are both considered donar cars |
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Post by tank11 on May 20, 2015 15:11:24 GMT 12
It doesn't matter how many a12 models there are, each model will have engine block numbers, head numbers, etc. If numbers missing illegal or don't match manufactures make and model, stand down counts. The rule is simple, only parts from donor CARS can be used. If dad or the engine builder decides to use ute or industrial parts, the stand down counts. b210 and b310 are both considered donar cars Simple then, they are allowed. But not with a head that the numbers match an industrial a12. |
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Post by Stumo on May 24, 2015 9:40:13 GMT 12
In the latest SNZ newletter on P1 it states
Ministocks - 1 Rule Change, Rest TBA
Then on P3 says consultation submisions are still being worked through...
So does anyone know which of the 5 has changed??
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Post by 7n on Jul 29, 2015 6:53:15 GMT 12
I believe its a late model B310 - its an EGR head so a "Smog" head for emission control - which usually have less performance potential? No it comes out in a datsun roadstar ute has bigger inlet valves and a few other pros That is NOT the case and a lot of the problems in this class start with people regurgitating, what they have heard or believe. The 030 head is the one of the most common heads available on NZ new spec Nissan 1200's. I bough 13x used engines over the time my son raced and of those 11x were 030 cast and the other 2x had no casting numbers whatsoever. They have standard regulation 29/35mm valves and not EGR. The problems in this class from my experience start and are perpetuated by the ignorance of many over the education of a few. Take a few minutes to use the computer you are quick to use on here and look on Wiki and you will find a couple of very good sites with all the facts on these heads. The problems with heads in this class, is the use of heads, not off "NZ new spec donor vehicles" as opposed to arguing the head in question was simply "off a donor engine" of unknown orient, this is endorsed by SNZ's remit requiring the single inlet/exhaust gasket which is effectively, another form of restrictor plate.
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Post by 7n on Jul 29, 2015 7:01:19 GMT 12
Rubbish, simply hand out season bans and watch the problem go away, It doesn't matter who pays for the engine because they all know what the story is. Sounds a bit tough on the little ones I suppose but when all said and done they are cheating. Totally agree, can just see tea time, family sitting around and one kid not talking to the father............. Wife not talking to the husband as well.... Yep, and that's the deterant is it not? |
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Post by pickles5c on Aug 9, 2015 13:13:09 GMT 12
What is needed is to stop the stretching of the rules and the supposed cheating in this class which I for one agree with. I recently saw an engine from a ministock with the sump pulled off and it had a knife edge crank that had been seriously lightened. This is only part of the story. I have seen restrictor plates with larger holes in them, manifolds with small holes drilled in them to drag more air into the engine , camshafts that are not standard and adjustable timing gears on these cars. What is needed is for the rule book to be policed correctly, as it was when we raced. SNZ seems to have no stomach for policing the rules so they will just slow the cars down and not worry about the cheating. Unfortunatly if they do this they will kill the class off for the kids who are in fact the life blood of our sport. Just have a quick look through the adult classes and see how many competitors are there that started in mini stocks. All that is needed is for SNZ to pull some engines apart and hand out some decent suspensions and the problem will largely go away. I would suggest that most of the problem is parents who will do anything to win, see how they go when their kid has a 12 month suspension. I agree with Hermo |
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Post by mrf97 on Aug 16, 2015 18:06:49 GMT 12
Last year was our first year in the sport, and I really enjoyed it. I am really disappointed about the restrictor plates. I don't agree as with most people with cheats, but the size of the holes are ridiculous, does anyone know how much this will slow them down? I'm worried that the class won't have the same appeal if the lap times drop to much, in my opinion this may turn them into a hot dog class. what's everyone's thoughts on this?
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Post by keyboardracer on Aug 18, 2015 16:50:26 GMT 12
Last year was our first year in the sport, and I really enjoyed it. I am really disappointed about the restrictor plates. I don't agree as with most people with cheats, but the size of the holes are ridiculous, does anyone know how much this will slow them down? I'm worried that the class won't have the same appeal if the lap times drop to much, in my opinion this may turn them into a hot dog class. what's everyone's thoughts on this? To most people they already are a hotdog class. |
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