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Post by Geoff public on Feb 26, 2017 0:40:19 GMT 12
I could be wrong but I didn't think you could have seedings for an NZ title. I couldn't see anything in the rule book about it. Still its late, the Alleycats were awesome & I'm running on the excitement of tonight. There were so many good races over both nights. I've had a great time for many reasons & that's what I'll take away. Congratulations Alleycats, enjoy your night
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Post by Admin on Feb 26, 2017 1:07:07 GMT 12
Well done to the Alleycats for a thoroughly deserved win and special kudos to Keegan Orr for performing like a veteran teams racer with added extra skill and smarts. Easily my driver of the weekend.
Great effort by the oh so close Rascals too and all the other teams who took part.
Still like to know how the 15 lap final became 12 laps though. Speedway is so dumb sometimes.
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Post by boner87 on Feb 26, 2017 3:52:18 GMT 12
Well done to the Alleycats for a thoroughly deserved win and special kudos to Keegan Orr for performing like a veteran teams racer with added extra skill and smarts. Easily my driver of the weekend. Great effort by the oh so close Rascals too and all the other teams who took part. Still like to know how the 15 lap final became 12 laps though. Speedway is so dumb sometimes. Same as all the other races that became 13/14 lap affairs
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Post by steelpanther on Feb 26, 2017 6:59:44 GMT 12
Half expected to wake up this morning to hear the Alleycats had been disqualified lol. Great result on th back of their win at the Huntly teams earlier in the season!! Congrats to Auckland!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 7:28:37 GMT 12
They only did 12 lap out of 15 and Keegan cut the pole line when he spun out Oh Boo Hoo , cars cut the poleline at every track and every meeting . Once again people point this out when their team gets beaten fair and square.. .. Keegan Orr never got pinged for it , so a wins a win.. Oh , which team were you supporting Matthew  ?? lol
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Post by 4zfed on Feb 26, 2017 7:45:59 GMT 12
Well done to the Alleycats for a thoroughly deserved win and special kudos to Keegan Orr for performing like a veteran teams racer with added extra skill and smarts. Easily my driver of the weekend. Great effort by the oh so close Rascals too and all the other teams who took part. Still like to know how the 15 lap final became 12 laps though. Speedway is so dumb sometimes. Couldn't agree with you more Gordon..Keegan was hands down the standout driver over the weekend. He was like a man possessed last night..near unstoppable.
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Post by mordecai on Feb 26, 2017 10:11:22 GMT 12
Same as superstock when hemi cut pole line they got disqualified same rules should apply Hemi did more than cut the pole line. He passed on the grass and attacked from the grass as he passed. Get your facts right before stirring the pot. did hemi really attack on the grass or was it a racing incident I 4rt hemi was hard done by with the decision they made but I was happy with that decision for other reasons I cant say on here
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Post by Admin on Feb 26, 2017 10:15:31 GMT 12
Hemi did more than cut the pole line. He passed on the grass and attacked from the grass as he passed. Get your facts right before stirring the pot. did hemi really attack on the grass or was it a racing incident I 4rt hemi was hard done by with the decision they made but I was happy with that decision for other reasons I cant say on here
absolutely certain and anyone who has seen the video will be too. Back to the topic of this thread now please.
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Post by petero on Feb 26, 2017 14:01:23 GMT 12
what a spectacle, the track and its banking, large corners etc throw's up things you will never see at a "flat" track. certainly made things more interesting
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Post by fastrota78 on Feb 26, 2017 17:53:21 GMT 12
Do SNZ officials run these big meetings ? If so...how come there was so many things going wrong over the weekend ? Maybe its just 'Speedway' in general 
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Post by Higgins on Feb 26, 2017 18:24:32 GMT 12
I was not at the meeting fastrota78 so am unaware of the "many things going wrong over the weekend". Can you please enlighten me a to what these "many wrong things" were so at least I will know what you are referring to thanks?
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Post by fastrota78 on Feb 26, 2017 18:56:49 GMT 12
I was not at the meeting fastrota78 so am unaware of the "many things going wrong over the weekend". Can you please enlighten me a to what these "many wrong things" were so at least I will know what you are referring to thanks? One teams race was run longer than 12 laps & the final was 12 laps not 15. The flag man looked totally confused all night as he was unsure on who was to get the white flag in the first consolation race as well. I realise the flag people are told what to do by SNZ people but.... Cars were hitting over the pole line all over the show on the Friday night & were not removed from a race, but in one race on the Saturday night a car was taken off straight away. Where is the consistency.... The red lights were put on & they checked the front bumper corner that was hanging off the Auckland car, the car was allowed to carry on..for another 2 or 3 laps and was then removed. Was it removed because of the bumper end & if so why was it not taken off straight away. Imagine if that flew into a packed crowd... Two cars driving the wrong way up the track during a race trying to hit other cars. Was the Hutchby tank in an attacking position when it was hit three times in a row by Phillips ? When the reds were finally put on...Hutchby went straight over to the 72s car & I dont think it was to shake his hand.  Do SNZ officials not all get taught the same thing and how to run a meeting ?
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Post by go29 on Feb 26, 2017 19:26:20 GMT 12
I was not at the meeting fastrota78 so am unaware of the "many things going wrong over the weekend". Can you please enlighten me a to what these "many wrong things" were so at least I will know what you are referring to thanks? One teams race was run longer than 12 laps & the final was 12 laps not 15. Flag man looked totally confused all night as he was unsure on who was to get the white flag in the first consolation race as well. I realise the flag people are told what to do by SNZ people but.... Cars were hitting over the pole line all over the show on the Friday night & were not removed from a race, but in one race on the Saturday night a car was taken off straight away. Where is the consistency.... The red lights were put on & they checked the front bumper corner that was hanging off the Auckland car, the car was allowed to carry on..for another 2 or 3 laps and was they removed. Was it removed because of the bumper end & if so why was it not taken off straight away. Imagine if that flew into a packed crowed... Two cars driving the wrong way up the track during a race trying to hit other cars. Was the Hutchby tank in an attacking position when it was hit three times in a row by Phillips ? When the reds were finally put on...Hutchby went straight over to the 72s car & I dont think it was to shake his hand. Do SNZ officials not all get taught the same thing and how to run a meeting ? Yeah I was at the meeting too and agree with all of the above. Was all a little confusing to be honest - especially Potaka being taken off for hitting on the grass when it had been going on all weekend and in every other instance being delt with after the race. All in all the racing though was awesome and the track really lent itself towards great teams racing. In that aspect it's a shame Gisborne have lost the right to hold the championship but then again at least next year hopefully I won't be called a f*****g prick for clapping for the team that manages to beat the home team as I was when Rotorua managed to beat Gisborne haha
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Post by tank11 on Feb 26, 2017 20:21:39 GMT 12
I was not at the meeting fastrota78 so am unaware of the "many things going wrong over the weekend". Can you please enlighten me a to what these "many wrong things" were so at least I will know what you are referring to thanks? One teams race was run longer than 12 laps & the final was 12 laps not 15. The flag man looked totally confused all night as he was unsure on who was to get the white flag in the first consolation race as well. I realise the flag people are told what to do by SNZ people but.... Cars were hitting over the pole line all over the show on the Friday night & were not removed from a race, but in one race on the Saturday night a car was taken off straight away. Where is the consistency.... The red lights were put on & they checked the front bumper corner that was hanging off the Auckland car, the car was allowed to carry on..for another 2 or 3 laps and was then removed. Was it removed because of the bumper end & if so why was it not taken off straight away. Imagine if that flew into a packed crowd... Two cars driving the wrong way up the track during a race trying to hit other cars. Was the Hutchby tank in an attacking position when it was hit three times in a row by Phillips ? When the reds were finally put on...Hutchby went straight over to the 72s car & I dont think it was to shake his hand.  Do SNZ officials not all get taught the same thing and how to run a meeting ? I'll try to shed some light, but just my opinion. A white flag is shown to the FIRST car to get the required laps(11 for a 12 lap race), he may(did) get stopped before completing that lap, so the white flag stays out (as Ethan had now got onto HIS last lap), the first lead car got going again and beat Ethan by a car length. Simple to those who can understand rules. I take drivers had been warned on night one re the grass, in this instance the car was well onto the flat, so on the grass, the attacking car saw him coming and attacked from the wall, not aware that the other had gone off the track and hit him broadside totally on the grass ( I was sitting on turn 3, they were traveling directly towards us) The bumper was a call at that time and then reviewed, may have got worse? The two cars driving the wrong way should have been red flagged in my opinion, the rules state one direction, they should have selected reverse and spun around. The tank was in an attacking position each time it was hit and previous it had attacked from up there. remember Pete taking out two Chchch cars last year. He tried it again this year as well, no qualms about those hits at all. Don't know about SNZ training.
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Post by tank11 on Feb 26, 2017 20:23:40 GMT 12
One teams race was run longer than 12 laps & the final was 12 laps not 15. Flag man looked totally confused all night as he was unsure on who was to get the white flag in the first consolation race as well. I realise the flag people are told what to do by SNZ people but.... Cars were hitting over the pole line all over the show on the Friday night & were not removed from a race, but in one race on the Saturday night a car was taken off straight away. Where is the consistency.... The red lights were put on & they checked the front bumper corner that was hanging off the Auckland car, the car was allowed to carry on..for another 2 or 3 laps and was they removed. Was it removed because of the bumper end & if so why was it not taken off straight away. Imagine if that flew into a packed crowed... Two cars driving the wrong way up the track during a race trying to hit other cars. Was the Hutchby tank in an attacking position when it was hit three times in a row by Phillips ? When the reds were finally put on...Hutchby went straight over to the 72s car & I dont think it was to shake his hand. Do SNZ officials not all get taught the same thing and how to run a meeting ? Yeah I was at the meeting too and agree with all of the above. Was all a little confusing to be honest - especially Potaka being taken off for hitting on the grass when it had been going on all weekend and in every other instance being delt with after the race. All in all the racing though was awesome and the track really lent itself towards great teams racing. In that aspect it's a shame Gisborne have lost the right to hold the championship but then again at least next year hopefully I won't be called a f*****g prick for clapping for the team that manages to beat the home team as I was when Rotorua managed to beat Gisborne haha I clapped for them too, it was an epic race. To bad they won but that's racing. I remember Etan or Asher clapping Palmy at Auckland last year, on the track.
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Post by fastrota78 on Feb 26, 2017 20:39:29 GMT 12
One teams race was run longer than 12 laps & the final was 12 laps not 15. The flag man looked totally confused all night as he was unsure on who was to get the white flag in the first consolation race as well. I realise the flag people are told what to do by SNZ people but.... Cars were hitting over the pole line all over the show on the Friday night & were not removed from a race, but in one race on the Saturday night a car was taken off straight away. Where is the consistency.... The red lights were put on & they checked the front bumper corner that was hanging off the Auckland car, the car was allowed to carry on..for another 2 or 3 laps and was then removed. Was it removed because of the bumper end & if so why was it not taken off straight away. Imagine if that flew into a packed crowd... Two cars driving the wrong way up the track during a race trying to hit other cars. Was the Hutchby tank in an attacking position when it was hit three times in a row by Phillips ? When the reds were finally put on...Hutchby went straight over to the 72s car & I dont think it was to shake his hand.  Do SNZ officials not all get taught the same thing and how to run a meeting ? I'll try to shed some light, but just my opinion. A white flag is shown to the FIRST car to get the required laps(11 for a 12 lap race), he may(did) get stopped before completing that lap, so the white flag stays out (as Ethan had now got onto HIS last lap), the first lead car got going again and beat Ethan by a car length. Simple to those who can understand rules. I take drivers had been warned on night one re the grass, in this instance the car was well onto the flat, so on the grass, the attacking car saw him coming and attacked from the wall, not aware that the other had gone off the track and hit him broadside totally on the grass ( I was sitting on turn 3, they were traveling directly towards us) The bumper was a call at that time and then reviewed, may have got worse? The two cars driving the wrong way should have been red flagged in my opinion, the rules state one direction, they should have selected reverse and spun around. The tank was in an attacking position each time it was hit and previous it had attacked from up there. remember Pete taking out two Chchch cars last year. He tried it again this year as well, no qualms about those hits at all. Don't know about SNZ training. Yea I know how flags work haha but was this race G vs R, the race that they did extra laps and everyone in the crowd was confused on who was in the lead. If what your saying is true, how did that happen as they were only meant to do 12 laps ? The bumper on Orrs car did the exact same thing at the under 23s in Stratford a couple of weeks ago and was taken off straight away...what is the difference ? When Peewee was in turn 3 and 4 he was backed into the wall and was pulling out to get other cars but he was still going in the flow of the traffic, as he went forward and backed up again so he was facing the right way. Hutchby was facing the wrong way in the middle of the track...Seeing how angry Hutchby was, maybe the hits were not legal ?
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 26, 2017 22:41:14 GMT 12
that hutchby hit was right in front of me. he had both hands out his car windows facing the on coming phillips the last time he was hit. he had no intentsion for hitting phillips. thats what set him off. remember he was also facing the wrong way. so looking straight at phillips as it happened. so yea thats why the reaction.
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 26, 2017 22:49:13 GMT 12
i thought the white got thrown for a rotorua car. then got withdrawn after it was thrown. yea very confusing. he was like that last year. and im sure they were working on three strikes your out type thing with in reguards to 52v. he would of known that would of happened if he did it again in that race. 82b was following the rules on night 2, otherwise would of met the same fate. so again consistant. and the fact the final was shortened. really just helped rotorua. they put up a great fight but had by the end of the race run out of mechinary to stop auckland.
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Post by tank11 on Feb 27, 2017 11:30:19 GMT 12
The white is thrown for the lead car doing the required laps, Ethan was a lap down. The boys held the R car up in turn 1-2 after the while. Ethan was going bonkers trying to catch up.
Passed under the white twice and lost to the lead car by a car length.
The white is shown for the lead car, all others still have to do the required laps to finish first whether they pass under it 2,3 or 4 times.
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Post by tank11 on Feb 27, 2017 11:31:47 GMT 12
Couldn't make out the angle of the H car from turn 3, but as he had taken a shot from up there previous, what were the other team to think.
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