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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 16:49:19 GMT 12
~ Brand new multimillion-dollar stadium
~ Unlimited number of meetings
~ Purpose-built wide track specifically designed for the wheel to wheel racing (30-35m wide)
~ Banked, American style race track with multiple racing grooves
~ Tunnel constructed under the track to allow competitors to enter and exit track
~ Internal barrier wall designed with an easy exit lane during race
~ Both terraced (concrete not plastic) and grand stand seating options
~ International Series events for the premier classes
~ Mega Screen to watch those all-important replays
~ Pit access for fans and plenty of off-street parking
~ Pit area large enough to hold over 180 competitors with easy access.
~ Will allow New Zealand Championship events to be run over two days
~ Ample pre-season practice meetings and training days along with new exciting events, given we have unlimited scope in the future.
~ Track located to avoid glare
~ The stadium will have several purpose-built areas including:
~ A speedway museum
~ Large grandstand
~ Merchandise shops
~ Food stalls
~ Clubroom suitable to cater to the sport of Speedway.
To an open wheeler fan that sure looks good, almost too good to be true.
Wonder what the final cost will be? If council put in $13mil, guess Buckley Systems must have had several bumper years recently, if Bill is going to pick up the tab for the balance.
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jun 10, 2018 18:02:21 GMT 12
~ Purpose-built wide track specifically designed for the wheel to wheel racing (30-35m wide)
With the track being 30-35 m wide I can guarantee there will be no wheel to wheel action. You will need binoculars just to see the car beside you.
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Post by twincarb on Jun 10, 2018 20:15:11 GMT 12
~ Purpose-built wide track specifically designed for the wheel to wheel racing (30-35m wide) With the track being 30-35 m wide I can guarantee there will be no wheel to wheel action. You will need binoculars just to see the car beside you. What is the width at the springs and what is the width at baypark ?? |
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jun 10, 2018 20:21:08 GMT 12
Baypark Track:
451 metres in length
18 metres on straights
20 metres in corners
Western Springs
Track:
428 metres in length
10.8 metres on straights
16.0 metres in corners
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Post by twincarb on Jun 10, 2018 20:30:39 GMT 12
So if the new track is 30 metres wide on the straights its going to be a white elephant--Get a better view when you fly in to new Zealand from a 747 I reckon
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jun 10, 2018 20:44:25 GMT 12
In my opinion something banked
16 meters on the straits
18 meters on the corners
Would be perfect. Additionally is would still suit all classes not just saloons, Sprint cars and Modifieds.
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Post by magilla on Jun 10, 2018 22:32:07 GMT 12
 how is that for banking? US36 Spreedway Missouri |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 8:03:35 GMT 12
~ Purpose-built wide track specifically designed for the wheel to wheel racing (30-35m wide) With the track being 30-35 m wide I can guarantee there will be no wheel to wheel action. You will need binoculars just to see the car beside you. No need to hit the panic button orapiuwharf, all just idealized numbers and puffed up words on paper at this stage. Will be interesting to see how the SPL rhetoric compares with the finished product/stadium. I suspect the 30-35m figure mentioned in the Herald clip posted by Hemi allows for one side of the track to be wider so as to accommodate the safety exit lane. Knoxville Raceway has on one side a 30m wide straight and 40m corner. Whatever happens the thought of a purpose built world class open wheel stadium here in NZ is very exiting. God bless Bill B, and please forgive him for all his sins. Amen. LOL. |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jun 11, 2018 8:27:10 GMT 12
I myself thought to good to be true but even if they do half the things they have said it will be 10 times better than what we have now in my opinion,yes thank you Bill Buckley and AMEN!
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Post by johnf on Jun 11, 2018 9:17:26 GMT 12
Having experienced Waikaraka and Gloucester Parks and now I work very close to the new venue it must have good shelter from the Manukau Harbour wind. Something like Bay Park's grandstand,if it's left open it will get cold even in summer. I think the off roaders who currently run at Colin Dale will agree to that.
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Post by Rota on Jun 11, 2018 9:32:29 GMT 12
Yes exactly, they could be putting into account the work area for the endurance races they are wanting to do.
I will be expecting the name Buckley to be somewhere within the new name of the stadium.
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Post by midway on Jun 11, 2018 19:34:19 GMT 12
Disappointing Percy hasnt given his wise thoughts and vision on this new venue
He could be voted off the popularity stakes by another contender by the response he is getting, and you may think it is a infringement of copy write at times ..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 17:36:17 GMT 12
Just a heads up for the drivers... unitaryplan.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Images/Auckland%20Unitary%20Plan%20Operative/Chapter%20I%20Precincts/1.%20Auckland%20wide/I101%20Motorsport%20Precinct.pdfUnless the above gets changed, you may want to makes sure your cars are not backfiring. I would also be concerned at the limit of 750 vehicles per day. Take out the 150 for teams and volunteers and you get 600 spectator cars. 10pm curfew on Fridays and 10.30pm on Sat (6pm on Sundays even if Monday is a holiday). 80db noise limit....oh...and no fireworks. Why do you think Colin Dale was originally passed over? I sincerely hope for the drivers sake that SPL can get these restrictive conditions loosened a lot. The car movements is the biggest concern...600 cars x 4 people per car (cos we all know Aucklanders like car pooling) and you get a maximum of 2400 spectators....sorry...2410 (forgot the 10 that will walk there). 750 vehicle movements it says... thats 375 movements in and 375 movements out!!.. 750 vehicles would be 1500 vehicle movements... |
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Post by midway on Jun 12, 2018 19:01:50 GMT 12
~ Purpose-built wide track specifically designed for the wheel to wheel racing (30-35m wide) With the track being 30-35 m wide I can guarantee there will be no wheel to wheel action. You will need binoculars just to see the car beside you. No need to hit the panic button orapiuwharf, all just idealized numbers and puffed up words on paper at this stage. Will be interesting to see how the SPL rhetoric compares with the finished product/stadium. I suspect the 30-35m figure mentioned in the Herald clip posted by Hemi allows for one side of the track to be wider so as to accommodate the safety exit lane. Knoxville Raceway has on one side a 30m wide straight and 40m corner. Whatever happens the thought of a purpose built world class open wheel stadium here in NZ is very exiting. God bless Bill B, and please forgive him for all his sins. Amen. LOL. The very small message at the bottom of this post is well worth thinking about . Peace of mind is a great assurance ,that this cruel disease doesnt take affect on our speedway families ,so c,mon you arent bullet proof and get yourselves checked out .... |
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Post by petrolfumes on Jun 12, 2018 20:13:25 GMT 12
Down the bottom of the article it states Resource consent required to exceed Movement levels Just a heads up for the drivers... unitaryplan.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Images/Auckland%20Unitary%20Plan%20Operative/Chapter%20I%20Precincts/1.%20Auckland%20wide/I101%20Motorsport%20Precinct.pdfUnless the above gets changed, you may want to makes sure your cars are not backfiring. I would also be concerned at the limit of 750 vehicles per day. Take out the 150 for teams and volunteers and you get 600 spectator cars. 10pm curfew on Fridays and 10.30pm on Sat (6pm on Sundays even if Monday is a holiday). 80db noise limit....oh...and no fireworks. Why do you think Colin Dale was originally passed over? I sincerely hope for the drivers sake that SPL can get these restrictive conditions loosened a lot. The car movements is the biggest concern...600 cars x 4 people per car (cos we all know Aucklanders like car pooling) and you get a maximum of 2400 spectators....sorry...2410 (forgot the 10 that will walk there). 750 vehicle movements it says... thats 375 movements in and 375 movements out!!.. 750 vehicles would be 1500 vehicle movements... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 14:44:54 GMT 12
but that means your going to have to apply for resource consent every meeting you run..how crazy is that..thats got to be changed its just anther tool with which to control and curtail your operation.. im looking forward to seeing the new place..i quite fancy a saloon on a banked track...(should have been and I guess still could be tauranga)....it'll be interesting to see how how it all pans out..with the Springs having the supersaloons over to race lately...im wondering if they get a decent sized banked track will we see super saloons leave WP to race the new springs course...possibly ushering in a whole new epoch of supersaloon / late model integration .....i was watching some sprintcars the other day on line..dont know what year it was..saw the aussies advertising themselves as the sprintcar capital of winter racing..aligned rules and a decent sized track could lead to all sorts of international stars arriving..ok if the aussies have sprintcars, cant we have winter dirt track stockcar late model racing...the Capital of world winter late model racing The New Springs Auckland NZ!! id pay to see that
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Post by tq65 on Jun 14, 2018 11:02:49 GMT 12
To those in the know, if by chance this new purpose track is as stated thus far, and the widths in the corners & straights
wider, how much effect will this have on ........... say the quarter midgets & the TQs, this also includes as Mossen puts it
similar to Kokomo in overall size.
Please advise.
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Post by mod46c on Jun 14, 2018 11:14:41 GMT 12
In my opinion something banked 16 meters on the straits 18 meters on the corners Would be perfect. Additionally is would still suit all classes not just saloons, Sprint cars and Modifieds. My 2 cents. Aim the track design at the two premier classes from the Springs Midgets and Sprintcars, plenty of tracks already cater for the rest, don't compromise. Build it what I would call lite, no dirt embankments, no back fill on concrete wall, the heaviest cars you need to restrain are only 600kg or so. Lots of US tracks seem to be built this way without any big drama, this allows for if the track size shape or whatever isn't working it can be reconfigured easily and relatively cheaply. Resist the temptation to make the track super quick as that will kill the budget teams, you don't want a situation where you need multiple motors to be in the game.. Tunnel brilliant idea, should speed the show up dramatically especially if its bi-directional. |
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Post by John W. on Jun 14, 2018 17:55:42 GMT 12
If you are going to have a tunnel, it needs to be 2 cars wide with markings for each direction and sufficient space between (with a backup gate incase tunnel is flooded, you want a high vehicle in centre or 2 cars collide and block tunnel).
If tunnel is only 1 car wise you are better off just having 2 gates (one on one off). Keep in mind that between races you usually have 2 way traffic.
The other option is gate to get on track and tunnel to get off (so tow trucks can remove cars in middle while next race is underway...).
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Post by woodart on Jun 14, 2018 19:48:34 GMT 12
tunnel would be cool, would open the track to having rallycross events
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