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Post by magilla on Feb 7, 2019 15:20:54 GMT 12
In saying that just wondering if your thoughts are "Australian titles are for the Ozzie's only?"
Having the Ozzie's & Yanks come here raises the bar for the Kiwi drivers, the only way to improve your skills is to go up against better competition
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Post by mod46c on Feb 7, 2019 15:46:51 GMT 12
Madsen has won a few Ozzy titles and he's technically an American well actually he was born a kiwi Yep, its actually better than that he was born in Christchurch |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 17:58:41 GMT 12
Looking forward to 2020 in Palmerston North and the South Island cars travelling over the water as WoW has proven that the SI cars and drivers are capable of winning the NZ title. What is the likely hood of 50+ sprintcars? Are there any tight tracks in South Island that the guys can get used to before coming up? Doubt you would get anywhere near 50 at Palmy next season, I don't think the place is that well liked among the sprintcar fraternity. Suspect not many will travel from the south risking there equipment, thus putting the better paying WOW opportunities at risk  Suspect the primary reason very few Mainlanders will travel to PN is because they understand their chances of getting onto the podium for the NZ title are very slim, given their less than encouraging track record over the last 18 years. Would however be very happy if proved wrong and they front up in droves. In the event there are say only around 30 entrants perhaps Palmy should seek approval to run a maximum of 16 in the final. That should help minimize the tail enders chances of bunging up the system causing carnage on the narrow track. |
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Post by charlie on Feb 7, 2019 20:52:54 GMT 12
Cant say im looking forward to next years champs at all.......as much as I have total respect for what Bruce and Puk do for the sport the PN track just doesnt produce great sprint car racing. When was the last time anyone saw someone come from further back than say the second row of the feature there to win?
There will be a bunch of gear torn up through heat races, followed by a pretty average feature......must have taken my happy pills today.
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Post by magilla on Feb 8, 2019 10:19:59 GMT 12
Cant say im looking forward to next years champs at all.......as much as I have total respect for what Bruce and Puk do for the sport the PN track just doesnt produce great sprint car racing. When was the last time anyone saw someone come from further back than say the second row of the feature there to win? There will be a bunch of gear torn up through heat races, followed by a pretty average feature......must have taken my happy pills today. you have described pretty much every major sprintcar meeting at Palmy |
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Post by percy on Feb 8, 2019 12:56:09 GMT 12
Why the drivers allow Palmerston North is host allocated titles is beyond my comprehension. As above posters have alluded to a lot of gear gets torn up because the track is simply too narrow for the class.
It's fixable via remit by adding an additional criteria for the NZ Sprintcar Title being a minimum track width. Simply choose a figure wider than Palmys specifications and narrower than all other eligible tracks.
I want to see next years NZ Sprintcar Title smashfest about as much as I want to see the Under 21 Solo title. So if any drivers want some help putting together a remit please make contact and I'll help.
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Post by blown on Feb 8, 2019 13:51:52 GMT 12
Went to palmy for sprintcar champs a few years back, racing was crap but the sideshow was interesting ie, Allard rearended a car and was set upon in the infield with several punches to the head, Tommy rusher was excluded from the meeting after turning right at a restart and taking 5 cars out, alas that was the end of Tommys racing career with the car being sold to Dion Kendall.
Waco and 2 other competitors decided after the first night heard to call it quits, packed their gear up and called it a day.
J Macs car was so badly damaged the crew cut the front off one of Ossie Sokols chassis and grafted it back onto theirs.
Like I said entertaining, but rubbish racing.
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Post by shunta on Feb 8, 2019 13:54:20 GMT 12
Can it go back to Cromwell !!!!
Another 5 years is too long to wait.
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Post by speedwaynut on Feb 8, 2019 14:13:27 GMT 12
Went to palmy for sprintcar champs a few years back, racing was crap but the sideshow was interesting ie, Allard rearended a car and was set upon in the infield with several punches to the head, Tommy rusher was excluded from the meeting after turning right at a restart and taking 5 cars out, alas that was the end of Tommys racing career with the car being sold to Dion Kendall. Waco and 2 other competitors decided after the first night heard to call it quits, packed their gear up and called it a day. J Macs car was so badly damaged the crew cut the front off one of Ossie Sokols chassis and grafted it back onto theirs. Like I said entertaining, but rubbish racing. Don't like to argue with you - but I think you are talking about 2 separate titles at Palmerston North. All the above did not happen at the same meeting. |
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Post by mod46c on Feb 8, 2019 15:01:57 GMT 12
Why the drivers allow Palmerston North is host allocated titles is beyond my comprehension. As above posters have alluded to a lot of gear gets torn up because the track is simply too narrow for the class. It's fixable via remit by adding an additional criteria for the NZ Sprintcar Title being a minimum track width. Simply choose a figure wider than Palmys specifications and narrower than all other eligible tracks. I want to see next years NZ Sprintcar Title smashfest about as much as I want to see the Under 21 Solo title. So if any drivers want some help putting together a remit please make contact and I'll help. I think you have no chance of getting that through the system Can't believe the 50th addition is going here, should have been heading back to one of the two original tracks that run the class IMHO. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 15:42:59 GMT 12
Why the drivers allow Palmerston North is host allocated titles is beyond my comprehension. As above posters have alluded to a lot of gear gets torn up because the track is simply too narrow for the class. It's fixable via remit by adding an additional criteria for the NZ Sprintcar Title being a minimum track width. Simply choose a figure wider than Palmys specifications and narrower than all other eligible tracks. I want to see next years NZ Sprintcar Title smashfest about as much as I want to see the Under 21 Solo title. So if any drivers want some help putting together a remit please make contact and I'll help. I think you have no chance of getting that through the system Can't believe the 50th addition is going here, should have been heading back to one of the two original tracks that run the class IMHO. It obvious from your blatant one-eyed Mainlander posts what track you are referring to, just like its equally obvious from your fellow blatant one-eye Jaffa mate Percy where he would prefer the the title to be held - LOL. So while those options are unrealistic the logical best solution is to stage it somewhere in the middle ground, in a central location with a history of NZ Sprint car titles going back to 1977/78, 1980/81 & 1982/83 - Te Marua, Wellington! |
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Post by morepower on Feb 8, 2019 15:55:07 GMT 12
It is a shame that speedway NZ cannot make decisions to allocate the NZ title by how a track can promote and run such event. This could include how event was run and especially on car count numbers which we should all think is most important. Would be interesting to see what percentage of speedway NZ registered Sprintcars turned up to Cromwell compared to other tracks previous years
For the NZ Sprintcar title not even a handful of tracks make sense, Cromwell (of course) Ruapuna and Baypark. Question mark over western springs as it is impossible to put on a good fair challenge under one night with what should include big car count. Welly could be a go Sprintcars were great around there but I guess they or any other track would have to have them contracted?
Cromwell proved that they can hold this title and also proved that this format run under the right promoter works well and in a family friendly time frame unlike Huntly where the Super Saloon title was the worst meeting I have attended in a long time. Cromwell had it all big field of cars, entertainment for the down times burnout cars etc and even a live band on the back of a truck which was then moved to in front of club rooms for the after gig. Well done Cromwell!
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Post by percy on Feb 8, 2019 16:00:38 GMT 12
Why the drivers allow Palmerston North is host allocated titles is beyond my comprehension. As above posters have alluded to a lot of gear gets torn up because the track is simply too narrow for the class. It's fixable via remit by adding an additional criteria for the NZ Sprintcar Title being a minimum track width. Simply choose a figure wider than Palmys specifications and narrower than all other eligible tracks. I want to see next years NZ Sprintcar Title smashfest about as much as I want to see the Under 21 Solo title. So if any drivers want some help putting together a remit please make contact and I'll help. I think you have no chance of getting that through the system Can't believe the 50th addition is going here, should have been heading back to one of the two original tracks that run the class IMHO. Never thought I'd see a SNZ NZ Production Saloon Title What passes at an AGM can surprise |
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Post by westford on Feb 8, 2019 17:27:44 GMT 12
Why the drivers allow Palmerston North is host allocated titles is beyond my comprehension. As above posters have alluded to a lot of gear gets torn up because the track is simply too narrow for the class. It's fixable via remit by adding an additional criteria for the NZ Sprintcar Title being a minimum track width. Simply choose a figure wider than Palmys specifications and narrower than all other eligible tracks. I want to see next years NZ Sprintcar Title smashfest about as much as I want to see the Under 21 Solo title. So if any drivers want some help putting together a remit please make contact and I'll help. I think you have no chance of getting that through the system Can't believe the 50th addition is going here, should have been heading back to one of the two original tracks that run the class IMHO. |
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Post by westford on Feb 8, 2019 17:33:43 GMT 12
I think you have no chance of getting that through the system Can't believe the 50th addition is going here, should have been heading back to one of the two original tracks that run the class IMHO. [/quote Yes its a shame the 50th running will be held there. The promotion and fans there will love it, the track is based on ontrack carnage. |
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Post by midway on Feb 8, 2019 20:34:34 GMT 12
Well i think you are a little bit harsh to say the least on the Promoters of Palmy ,the track its self is narrow but it is what it is for every racer that wishes to enter the Champs
I recall going to a meeting with Ricky Logan ,the track received a drowning they flew a helicopter in to dry it out ,they gave us all tickets for a free meal at the Lone Star ,and recommended a great cheap place to stay ,plus on top of that appearance money ,so i have no gripes of returning one day to a track that has been noted for its width and carnage ,but watching Skinny Colson ,Blondie ,and Pete Sloman in super saloons pass where others cant is to me nothing but a spectacle of good skill ...
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Post by azzurro on Feb 8, 2019 21:19:00 GMT 12
Doubt you would get anywhere near 50 at Palmy next season, I don't think the place is that well liked among the sprintcar fraternity. Suspect not many will travel from the south risking there equipment, thus putting the better paying WOW opportunities at risk Suspect the primary reason very few Mainlanders will travel to PN is because they understand their chances of getting onto the podium for the NZ title are very slim, given their less than encouraging track record over the last 18 years. Would however be very happy if proved wrong and they front up in droves. In the event there are say only around 30 entrants perhaps Palmy should seek approval to run a maximum of 16 in the final. That should help minimize the tail enders chances of bunging up the system causing carnage on the narrow track. South islanders should be there in droves - one of their fellow racers won the title there last time and the talent in the South Island is far superior now to what it was even 3 years ago. Palmy may be a narrow track - but first they have to learn to cross the water divide and reduce the heavy bias in North Island cars travelling to the South Island for big meetings |
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Post by magilla on Feb 9, 2019 10:15:21 GMT 12
Why the drivers allow Palmerston North is host allocated titles is beyond my comprehension. As above posters have alluded to a lot of gear gets torn up because the track is simply too narrow for the class. It's fixable via remit by adding an additional criteria for the NZ Sprintcar Title being a minimum track width. Simply choose a figure wider than Palmys specifications and narrower than all other eligible tracks. I want to see next years NZ Sprintcar Title smashfest about as much as I want to see the Under 21 Solo title. So if any drivers want some help putting together a remit please make contact and I'll help. I think you have no chance of getting that through the system Can't believe the 50th addition is going here, should have been heading back to one of the two original tracks that run the class IMHO. should have been in Christchurch, Ruapuna would have been perfect place for the 50th as it was the first. |
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Post by magilla on Feb 9, 2019 10:20:36 GMT 12
Palmy hardly seems to even care about promoting the Sprintcar title.
Their focus is the Superstocks Team Champs (fair enough is a sell out every year)
One year they didn't even bother with a proper program for the Sprintcar Champs. Was like they forgot they had it.
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Post by midway on Feb 9, 2019 12:20:03 GMT 12
So where does this all lead to..,
Certain tracks only hold premier championship meetings
Not to mention of course the likes of Huntly as another example and maybe a host of others .
Then comes along Baypark ,with not a good reputation as to get the meeting finished on time .
But stop for a minute ,and think were Sprintcars around when many of the older established tracks built ,and the demands they have such as speed ,and excitement for the fans .
I can remember the night one or two,sprinters came to Waikaraka ,and showed just how fast they were ,a little like Gene Welch ,did in his modified Super Saloon ,and now look at that class are they moaning as such ,well yes and no so is it time the sport had a Good Look :)at its self or is the status que who govern its well fare playing lawn ,bowls and still thinking tiddlewinks like a well known gentleman has stated ...
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