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Post by Driftwood on Jan 31, 2019 16:07:58 GMT 12
Its rigged because apart from the seeded teams how were the other 9 teams worked out who to race against. I never said it's not rigged, I'm asking what advantages to the promotion are there IF it were. |
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Post by Driftwood on Jan 31, 2019 16:14:36 GMT 12
Ok Its rigged because Bruce has put a sneeky hundy on the Panthers to win and Puk is 51% share holder of the TAB.
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Post by Ugmo on Jan 31, 2019 16:17:01 GMT 12
Can anyone and there are plenty of you conspiracy theorists, tell me what advantage there is to the PN Promotion rigging the draw. So you really think they will sell a single ticket more or less because of the draw, or the results it will give? Is not like Stockcar teams where the winner hosts it, PN will hold it next year and every year thereafter, regardless of where the panthers finish won't they? The prize money will be the same no matter who wins, so he's not saving anything there if the panthers win. Come at me with just 1 good reason why you think it's rigged. P.S "It just is" isn't a good answer It just is! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 16:22:43 GMT 12
Ok Its rigged because Bruce has put a sneeky hundy on the Panthers to win and Puk is 51% share holder of the TAB. Hehehe good point I guess but At $3.50 you wouldn't punt them with stolen $$$ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 16:24:01 GMT 12
P.S "It just is" isn't a good answerIt just is! Grrrrrr 😜 |
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Post by Geoff public on Jan 31, 2019 17:24:53 GMT 12
It's in the promotions best interests the P teams do well. They could assist them by maximizing gaps between races and maybe track preparation (tbh I'm not sure about that part). In any case, stuff like that happens regularly everywhere. No different from groundsmen giving their cricket team a certain pitch or football teams playing with large or small fields and in-goal areas. It all adds to the spectacle, & when a team overcomes everything to win, they know they've done bloody well
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Post by The Observer on Jan 31, 2019 18:00:09 GMT 12
Ok Its rigged because Bruce has put a sneeky hundy on the Panthers to win and Puk is 51% share holder of the TAB. Hehehe good point I guess but At $3.50 you wouldn't punt them with stolen $$$ Not being a gambler, I’m struggling to understand this statement For $1 gambled you have a chance to get $3.50 back? So $10 gambled would be $35 back if the Panthers won? For a team that is; • defending champions, • has Home track advantage • their own workshops and crews and spares • own pillow and bed to sleep in • with the most favourable draw • The Best protestors in the history of the event, despite no protests • home town support • Preferential pit parking • commentator bias to influence referees • home track staff and clerk of course You would think that would be a great return. In fact ramsteelballsjam, a $10,000 punt would return $35,000 You’d think with those “factors” - a man of your experience would punt this with *stolen $$$ and take the $25,000 pay day? |
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Post by kevin888 on Jan 31, 2019 18:13:36 GMT 12
and maybe there will be an Elvis sighting as well
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Post by Wildcat on Jan 31, 2019 18:39:43 GMT 12
Over many years of teams racing at Palmy You don't hear the enquiry siren go very often .Seen some shocking rule breaking No idea how the stipes missed them Maybe trip to spec savers tomorrow before the weekend 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 19:02:53 GMT 12
Hehehe good point I guess but At $3.50 you wouldn't punt them with stolen $$$ Not being a gambler, I’m struggling to understand this statement For $1 gambled you have a chance to get $3.50 back? So $10 gambled would be $35 back if the Panthers won? For a team that is; • defending champions, • has Home track advantage • their own workshops and crews and spares • own pillow and bed to sleep in • with the most favourable draw • The Best protestors in the history of the event, despite no protests • home town support • Preferential pit parking • commentator bias to influence referees • home track staff and clerk of course You would think that would be a great return. In fact ramsteelballsjam, a $10,000 punt would return $35,000 You’d think with those “factors” - a man of your experience would punt this with *stolen $$$ and take the $25,000 pay day? And why not . Its Palmys event and track . Its only the one eyed spectators that think everything is rigged . Obviously its not the drivers as they seem to come backeven stronger every year. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 20:30:32 GMT 12
Hehehe good point I guess but At $3.50 you wouldn't punt them with stolen $$$ Not being a gambler, I’m struggling to understand this statement For $1 gambled you have a chance to get $3.50 back? So $10 gambled would be $35 back if the Panthers won? For a team that is; • defending champions, • has Home track advantage • their own workshops and crews and spares • own pillow and bed to sleep in • with the most favourable draw • The Best protestors in the history of the event, despite no protests • home town support • Preferential pit parking • commentator bias to influence referees • home track staff and clerk of course You would think that would be a great return. In fact ramsteelballsjam, a $10,000 punt would return $35,000 You’d think with those “factors” - a man of your experience would punt this with *stolen $$$ and take the $25,000 pay day? Gotta be careful what I say so it doesn't get zapped. But looking at this year's line ups I don't consider them to be value at that price. And I'll tell you why I'm a moment but It's called gambling not winning for a reason. When punting I look for value I think there are other teams that offer better value. Obviously Canterbury have come in a lot since opening market was released, to the point where I don't think they represent value now. As an aside, after race 1 last year I was $550 down when the Wildcats lost to the busters and cost me every multi net I had running. Anyway back to the Panthers. I hope they do the same as last few years and price every teams race on night 2 head to head as the finalists are decided. Let's say it's Gisborne v Panthers final and the dreamsellers put out head to head odds of $1.75 on PP and $2.10 of GG, Either one of those prices are better than pre champs odds of $3.50 on PP IMHO |
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Post by midway on Jan 31, 2019 20:40:06 GMT 12
You would be better just to forget the whole thing and save your money for a feed at Mr Changs takeaway diner ...  |
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Post by Colin E on Feb 1, 2019 6:21:01 GMT 12
and maybe there will be an Elvis sighting as well Im sure Elvis Rowlands will be there  |
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Post by craigmcl on Feb 1, 2019 13:18:52 GMT 12
I wouldn't mind 'betting' that not many people have said.....the racing is rigged so I am not going! All who claim it is rigged, and I am not claiming it is, will you all still go to watch the racing or watch it on live stream or follow it on here or facebook as the nights progress?  ....I would 'bet' yes! So rigged or not you are on the hook. Good luck to all the teams especially the Allstars. I understand members of the Auckland Council are going to the racing on a fact finding trip to see how speedway racing is done. They don't care if it is rigged... they probably could give the promo some tips. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 1, 2019 14:04:52 GMT 12
Classic Cola. That's it isn't it rammers?
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Post by 00crewchief00 on Feb 1, 2019 15:08:55 GMT 12
Classic Cola. That's it isn't it rammers? Barry B Wouldn't it be historic cola for jimjam? |
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Post by woodart on Feb 1, 2019 15:13:22 GMT 12
It's not rigged! Only....it seems over the many many years only one team gets all the luck from the refs. 😉 if it wasnt rigged, the panthers would have raced against the manawatu B team(sorry mustangs) more than they have. a betting man like mr jam would be able to figure out the odds of the panthers NOT being forced to race against the mustangs year after year.... answer, very little. its a scam, but with super saloons stealing the show , who cares. I gave up on super stocks teams champs after 30 of them. would far rather go to the REAL teams champs. have booked my camp site in stratford. dont care who wins, but I know its NOT rigged.....will be at the #1 speedway in manawatu this weekend HARRISVILLE!!! |
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Post by The other guy on Feb 1, 2019 19:18:40 GMT 12
Couldnt agree more Woodart.
As you say if it wasnt manipulated then yes Panthers must of DRAWN Mustangs at some point.
And that just aint happened.
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Post by 4zfed on Feb 1, 2019 19:42:11 GMT 12
It's definitely happened..just not often enough to prove the books haven't been diddle with. Anyway to win it you got to beat anyone who stands in your way..Gizzy Hard!
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Post by The Observer on Feb 1, 2019 20:00:36 GMT 12
You would be better just to forget the whole thing and save your money for a feed at Mr Changs takeaway diner ... Is that fish town, or GT (Golden Takeways) of Hawaiian takeaways? Either way, the only burger you should order from the three above is a fish burger, which in the manawatu usually equals a 4 peice of fish, splash of coleslaw, and two buns beast of a burger. And back to punting - definitely a value choice to choose a donkey paying 50 - 1 because of course we know better than professionals on what the likelihood of a “value” return is? As per Ramjams classic punters post - one race and all the value bets are out the window due to the heart putting the home team in despite the experts advice - but great “value” on paper. But this one time the donkey came home and my $50 trifecta made $2500!!! So keep the dream alive punters! To be fair the TAB can be a bit of fun for a fiver on a race meeting, but when I hear of $$$ (only three figures being lost) I definitely lose interest given we are a relatively low cost economy and the machine preys on the dreams of the struggling. *gallops off on high horse to buy the weekly lotto ticket 🙄 |
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....I would 'bet' yes! So rigged or not you are on the hook. 
