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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 20:06:17 GMT 12
I never really payed much attention but after just being subjected to a ministock race with 3 red lights, 1 caused by the fact they went red. I thought they were supposed to go yellow, or have I missed meeting here?
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Post by percy on Oct 19, 2019 20:47:46 GMT 12
Ministocks now race under the Saloon section of the rule book
Should be rolling starts and yellow lights (unless it's a serious incident where a red light is appropriate)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 20:51:02 GMT 12
Ministocks now race under the Saloon section of the rule book Should be rolling starts and yellow lights (unless it's a serious incident where a red light is appropriate) I think the palmy ref missed the memo |
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Post by percy on Oct 19, 2019 21:06:53 GMT 12
Or Palmy has it's own unique rule book  |
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Post by beachboy on Oct 19, 2019 21:12:33 GMT 12
Or Palmy has it's own unique rule book Bit early in the season to be using that rule book, comes out around early Feb that book. |
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Post by 05 on Oct 20, 2019 8:16:19 GMT 12
From Bruce himself " due to numbers new rule not used " 40 + cars on track
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 9:05:48 GMT 12
Fair enough I suppose, altho I still think red lights are far more dangerous than yellows would ever be,and as we saw last night red lights cause red lights in this class
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Post by mordecai on Oct 20, 2019 10:25:07 GMT 12
Fair enough I suppose, altho I still think red lights are far more dangerous than yellows would ever be,and as we saw last night red lights cause red lights in this class slightly of topic I 4rt it was a well run meeting last night with the amount of races |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 10:39:53 GMT 12
Fair enough I suppose, altho I still think red lights are far more dangerous than yellows would ever be,and as we saw last night red lights cause red lights in this class slightly of topic I 4rt it was a well run meeting last night with the amount of races Credit where it's due a lot of work would have gone into getting that track a good as it was, they rolled the dice as far as weather goes and we're rewarded with huge entries and a crowd that they would have to be happy with. Most other tracks would have given long before start time. |
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Post by Regan O'Brien on Oct 21, 2019 7:12:57 GMT 12
From Bruce himself " due to numbers new rule not used " 40 + cars on track I think 40+ numbers is bloody stupid for ministocks all on the track. Go back to 26 cars then the rules can be used as they are ment too. |
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Post by percy on Oct 21, 2019 11:34:44 GMT 12
I was biting my tongue on this one but as Regan has pointed out the problem, I'll bite.
I find it unusual to implement a local rule on the grounds of safety when you run 40+ Ministocks on a track at once. Particularly Palmerston North which is a narrow track, even by New Zealand standards. Putting 40+ cars of any type on the track is asking for trouble.
Notwithstanding it was the opening night of the season. Drivers are rusty from the long off-season and assuming there were a few rookies in the field there would be drivers on the mentor program trying to learn their craft and thus speed differential with the more experienced drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 11:42:11 GMT 12
From Bruce himself " due to numbers new rule not used " 40 + cars on track I think 40+ numbers is bloody stupid for ministocks all on the track. Go back to 26 cars then the rules can be used as they are ment too. I tend to agree but then we would have had two groups of them as well as the adults! Grrrr I can't see the logic that says running reds rather than yellows is better, safer, quicker etc. But there probably is one. They were (or supposed to be) all using the one way radio system, unless that rule was shelved for the night as well. I'm all for reds when needed, IE: a car upside down, but the rule came in for a reason. |
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Post by midway on Oct 21, 2019 12:01:26 GMT 12
A good place to learn 40+ mini stocks gives the rusty the rough and the ready ,an equal opportunity to move forward ,just like being on a scooter at the lights in Bangkok |
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Post by street10 on Oct 22, 2019 14:55:27 GMT 12
I feel the 43 mini stocks out there performed well together with I think 6 newbies on the track. The track is pretty good at managing this class with big numbers turning up for most meetings. In regards to the red lights they all performed well. I don't recall any problems from the red lights apart from two drivers being unable to get their cars started once it went back to green. Which caused the red to come back on. Otherwise a great meeting for this class. They all performed well together and great for the newbies to be out there amongst it. Not going to learn otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 15:52:12 GMT 12
I feel the 43 mini stocks out there performed well together with I think 6 newbies on the track. The track is pretty good at managing this class with big numbers turning up for most meetings. In regards to the red lights they all performed well. I don't recall any problems from the red lights apart from two drivers being unable to get their cars started once it went back to green. Which caused the red to come back on. Otherwise a great meeting for this class. They all performed well together and great for the newbies to be out there amongst it. Not going to learn otherwise. The red lights after a red light restart is one of the reasons the rule was changed. They ain't going to learn how to race to the rules if the rules ain't being used. But that aside, I agree the class did drive well collectively. The faster cars gave the few very slow cars plenty of room and respect, even when they were battling for position. I didn't stay for their last race so don't know if there were any stoppages in that race but they ran fairly well in the two races I did see |
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Post by craige on Oct 23, 2019 5:13:01 GMT 12
I feel the 43 mini stocks out there performed well together with I think 6 newbies on the track. The track is pretty good at managing this class with big numbers turning up for most meetings. In regards to the red lights they all performed well. I don't recall any problems from the red lights apart from two drivers being unable to get their cars started once it went back to green. Which caused the red to come back on. Otherwise a great meeting for this class. They all performed well together and great for the newbies to be out there amongst it. Not going to learn otherwise. The red lights after a red light restart is one of the reasons the rule was changed. They ain't going to learn how to race to the rules if the rules ain't being used. But that aside, I agree the class did drive well collectively. The faster cars gave the few very slow cars plenty of room and respect, even when they were battling for position. I didn't stay for their last race so don't know if there were any stoppages in that race but they ran fairly well in the two races I did see Thought you don’t watch minicock races big fella 😜😜😜😜 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 7:03:18 GMT 12
Thought you don’t watch minicock races big fella 😜😜😜😜 Na I never said that. I said any promoter running adults and youth on the same night should hang one of two things. Either the half price tonight sign at the ticket box or failing that, their head in shame. Youth ministocks I can handle. Adults in ministocks is just... Well when I'm the prime minister, it won't be happening any more. I did say I wouldn't travel to a meeting running both adult & yth together. I geuess I've broken that promise but hey like I say, I'm practising to be the prime minister and the current one sets a very high bar in the lies to statements ratio. I think she's batting at about .98 at this stage |
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Post by chris13w on Oct 27, 2019 12:55:16 GMT 12
From Bruce himself " due to numbers new rule not used " 40 + cars on track I think 40+ numbers is bloody stupid for ministocks all on the track. Go back to 26 cars then the rules can be used as they are ment too. How are 43 Ministocks allowed on the track at once - SNZ limit at Wellington is 30 cars only? |
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Post by go29 on Oct 27, 2019 16:29:44 GMT 12
At Oceanview.. adult ministock race took about 15 minutes most of that time spent trying to get the cars into the right order under yellow.. bit painful
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Post by beachboy on Oct 27, 2019 19:16:26 GMT 12
I think 40+ numbers is bloody stupid for ministocks all on the track. Go back to 26 cars then the rules can be used as they are ment too. How are 43 Ministocks allowed on the track at once - SNZ limit at Wellington is 30 cars only? Its Palmy, they make the rules up to suit their cars. |
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