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Post by John W. on Jan 27, 2020 13:55:58 GMT 12
The Burger King Pro Dirt Series is back in town this Sat...with a special entry...
32USA Bobby Pierce
1NZ Steve Cowling
2NZ Chris Cowling
4M Trevor Rodgers
5B Steve Flynn
6B Grant Flynn
9W Mark Pitcher
17M Peter Dickson
18M Sam Waddell
21W Donald Gregory
23P Mick Quin
27S Joe Ingram
33B Chace Rodda
46M Matt Smith
49M Bodie Abrahamson
53M Mark Hutchins
63A Nigel Mouat
75M Michelle McPherson
94M Caitlin Hayward
95B Johnny Browne
124M Dan Corrin
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jan 27, 2020 13:59:22 GMT 12
Nice line up and looking forward to seeing Bobby Pierce race again,that dude can drive.
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Post by Gordon on Jan 27, 2020 14:29:24 GMT 12
Is this a confirmed list? Also which format are they using please?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 19:48:43 GMT 12
Is this a confirmed list? Also which format are they using please? Hi Gordon The BK Series Facebook page has the above list as `confirmed entries`. Looking forward to this meeting. Anthony |
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Post by trex on Jan 27, 2020 20:45:09 GMT 12
How can you have two cars and be registered to two tracks. Just interested.
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Post by John W. on Jan 27, 2020 20:45:47 GMT 12
Is this a confirmed list? Also which format are they using please? I am not the class rep for this event as they have their own team so cannot confirm numbers or format - but I do have reasonable confidence that we will get the vast majority of those listed. Format I believe is time trials - heats and a feature. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 21:05:29 GMT 12
How can you have two cars and be registered to two tracks. Just interested. I guess you are referring to Peter Dickson? The M car to the best of my knowledge is a Cowling owned ProX...so is the car track registered under Peter Dickson or Cowling Motorsport? Hopefully someone in the know will put us straight. Anthony |
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Post by woodart on Jan 27, 2020 21:58:53 GMT 12
Format I believe is time trials - heats and a feature.[/quote]
I would be interested in seeing if this unpopular format is used next week in front of a huge crowd of stockcar fans . after the goodwill earnt over the last few years at the teams champs, it would be a shame to see that capital wasted. if I want to see one car drone around a track, I will go back to manfeild...
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Post by midway on Jan 27, 2020 22:00:17 GMT 12
Nice line up and looking forward to seeing Bobby Pierce race again,that dude can drive. HE certainly did last time he appeared ,the sponsored car looked a rather second hand at one stage ,Ben must of dropped one of those Colonial Bacon & egg pies on the floor ....  |
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Post by nakifans on Jan 28, 2020 4:34:29 GMT 12
With the minimum amount of seating now available at WP it would be disappointing to be squashed in like sardines to watch time trials instead of shoot outs.
You have over the years provided the best show in town for the class, tweaking the show is all good but not at the expense of entertainment value.
If I want to watch time trials I'll take a deck chair down to a set of traffic lights and watch the cap facing backwards brigade taking off in their pop off valve Jap machines.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 28, 2020 8:12:38 GMT 12
Is this a confirmed list? Also which format are they using please? I'm with you on that one too Gordon. Their time trial format will not entice me along to watch them on Saturday night. Their alternate format will. It's quite simple really. One format is for the drivers. The other keeps the spectator in mind. Hopefully Grant can confirm like he did earlier in the season. Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 28, 2020 8:17:07 GMT 12
Format I believe is time trials - heats and a feature. I would be interested in seeing if this unpopular format is used next week in front of a huge crowd of stockcar fans . after the goodwill earnt over the last few years at the teams champs, it would be a shame to see that capital wasted. if I want to see one car drone around a track, I will go back to manfeild...[/quote] With the time it takes, Bruce will not allow such a format on Teams weekend. I think the BK always runs a slightly compressed format that weekend anyway, which works out good. Barry B |
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Post by speedinaway on Jan 28, 2020 8:44:03 GMT 12
• Wheel Pack / Hot Laps (Check Transmitters) 2 Groups - 2 Laps each (4 Laps)
Rock Star Energy Drink Time Trials, Groups of 4, Two (2) laps back to back, Timed lap to determine Group and Grid starting position, Heat 2 reverse from Heat 1 Starting Position (10 Laps)
The Moving Company Heat 1 Group A vs Group B (12 Laps)
Tauranga ITM Heat 2 Group B vs Group C (12 Laps)
Edwards Transport Heat 3 Group C vs Group A (12 Laps)
Lucas Oil NZ Pole Shuffle 12 Laps Top six (6) highest points to Pole Shuffle for Feature Grids. 7th -12th highest points Automatically transfer to Burger King Feature (10 Laps)
4 – Salute (1 lap)
BURGER KING PRO DIRT SERIES Feature Race 20 cars 30 laps.
Heat Race Finish Position: Determine your Pole Shuffle or Feature starting grid positions.
Pole Shuffle: Top six (6) cars to Pole Shuffle for the Feature Race positions, 2 laps, 6th vs 5th, the 5th place car has lane choice, the winner stays on track, 4th vs winner. The challenger 4th place car has lane choice, & so forth down to the winner.
Finish Position: Pole Shuffle finishing position determines your starting grid for the Feature race.
Feature Race: Pole Shuffle finishing position determines grids 1st - 6th Heat race Points determines grids 7th – 20th 30 Laps
Restarts: Delaware style double-file restarts – defined as leader alone on the front row with remainder of the field double filed behind the leader. Second place will have the choice of inside or outside lane. 4th place always to the inside of row 3
i) Delaware style double-file restarts will be used until three (3) remaining laps of any Heat and Feature race. ii) Single-File restarts will be used within three (3) remaining laps of any Heat and Feature race.
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Post by 9c on Jan 28, 2020 9:16:59 GMT 12
This format is the very reason I won't be trackside. Big grids bring big crowds. This is NZ not America.....get em on the track with a full grid, now thats racing. Fastest off the front is what makes Formula 1 into Formula Procession. Leave the time trials to the tarseal tuggers.
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Post by John W. on Jan 28, 2020 13:48:55 GMT 12
OK....my take....The time trials are used to "seed" the cars so each of the 3 groups is reasonably fair. Each car will then get a front and a reverse start in 2 of the 3 heats...It will not be a procession in the heats. The Saloons have been running the 3 heat system a lot this year and the smaller fields in the heats mean more room on the track to allow more passing and less damage so hopefully all cars make it to the feature.
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Post by Driftwood on Jan 28, 2020 15:23:40 GMT 12
I am with 9c on this one we had the Buger King cars at woody the other week and was not a fan the way it was run (justsaying)
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Post by mod46c on Jan 28, 2020 15:55:50 GMT 12
Format I believe is time trials - heats and a feature. I would be interested in seeing if this unpopular format is used next week in front of a huge crowd of stockcar fans . after the goodwill earnt over the last few years at the teams champs, it would be a shame to see that capital wasted. if I want to see one car drone around a track, I will go back to manfeild...[/quote] Just got back from the classic in Warrnambool. They used time trial two heats, fastest to front for first heat then invert for second. Worked pretty well finishing with feature. Ran into some kiwis who drive past there local they haven't been to in decades on way to airport several times a year. |
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Post by midway on Jan 28, 2020 19:52:50 GMT 12
OK....my take....The time trials are used to "seed" the cars so each of the 3 groups is reasonably fair. Each car will then get a front and a reverse start in 2 of the 3 heats...It will not be a procession in the heats. The Saloons have been running the 3 heat system a lot this year and the smaller fields in the heats mean more room on the track to allow more passing and less damage so hopefully all cars make it to the feature. So as i take it 3 groups with 21 cars competing = 7 in each group ,hardly a spectacle of good racing ,certainly the crowd deserves better ,I suppose Bobby the Bobcat will give a demo drive just to spice things up and please one or two loyal fans .. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 20:01:11 GMT 12
I am with 9c on this one we had the Buger King cars at woody the other week and was not a fan the way it was run (justsaying) Totally agree. It dragged on far too long, but there was alot more contact than in the stockcars... |
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Post by John W. on Jan 28, 2020 20:42:31 GMT 12
Midway....21 cars split into 3 groups would mean 14 cars on track for heats...I consider 12-14 to be an ideal number for good racing....enough room for cars to get their elbows out, and also make the track look nice and full. Too many cars and there is not enough room for the mid pack and cars at the back to get their speed up until they are all spread out (3 laps or so into the race). 14 cars means they can start racing right from the back straight.
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