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Post by nakifans on Mar 17, 2020 17:27:57 GMT 12
what,s happening with stratford?   Don't they have their meetings ea Tuesday night if there is a meeting on sat night , so I'd guess look at their website tomorrow. |
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Post by midway on Mar 17, 2020 17:56:49 GMT 12
[quote author=" graemeh" source="/post/454381/thread" timestamp="1584416832" Midway, you might know, how long would it take to demolish and remove the old grandstand???[/quote] Does all the attachments go with it  it would take a month chipping away at frances, coke a cola fridges full of ice for a start ,then another six months dismantling the sewer pipes after your committee meetings ,plus i think Drever and king left some hidden treasure under there for there emergency fund . plus Didnt Abrahams have some Dirty Washing hanging up under there at some stage i think it would be wise to start at the small grandstand in the pits they have buckets of concrete under the legs ,we just might need those buckets just in case ..hope you could give us a hand ,even in a advisory mode as i think you may still have more historic knowledge than most |
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Post by Tony on Mar 17, 2020 21:11:35 GMT 12
Fast Lane Spares Oceanview Family Speedway has also cancelled this Saturday night's meeting, so that's the end of the season at Wanganui.
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Post by nakifans on Mar 18, 2020 4:38:39 GMT 12
what,s happening with stratford? Don't they have their meetings ea Tuesday night if there is a meeting on sat night , so I'd guess look at their website tomorrow. WED Website has latest update re Stratford meeting's. |
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Post by Roxcyford on Mar 18, 2020 9:40:19 GMT 12
i know a or some clubs are discussing the possibility of disposable protective wear,i.e.overcoat,gloves,face mask,& googles,going forward with a increase in gate entry to recover cost,upon approval of course,snz,health ministry etc, any one else in the know about this  |
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Post by Go Slideways on Mar 18, 2020 11:42:10 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 17:02:16 GMT 12
Not speedway related but I watched that President Trump press conference with his response team early this morning. It went for over an hour, and although he could be accused of being a bit slow of the mark, he is well and truly on board now and doing a great job. Interestingly Florida has closed all bars and restaurants for 30 days. I'm assuming the call from our gov't for "All Kiwis overseas to come home while you still can" means that they will be taking drastic action probably on the weekend to stop all international flight arrivals, except from the PIs. I presume they will lower the guideline # of ppl in a group from 500 to something like what Trump has done. Places like NY state, and California are in real trouble right now. While down in West Virginia they are wondering what the fuss is with no cases so far. Like him or not, watch a Trump press conference and you will see why he is only half way his presidency. His way of dealing with the media, who as a whole ain't been particularly fair to him is second to none. Even CNN were praising him today. |
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Post by mod46c on Mar 19, 2020 14:07:35 GMT 12
Speedway should get an exemption due to the fact crowds are smaller. That 500 includes competitors, crew and officials NOT JUST 500 spectators! So they could run speedway events closed to public access. When do clubs make the call relative to financial viability? Have a look at Velocity Motorsport News to view the article on MSNZ and the decision around their upcoming events including Rally Otago. My view point as a nurse is that public safety comes well before anything else at this time. We can b***h about Jacinda and her decisions however the theory is absolutely correct...slow the spread while we can. Even though 8 cases are confirmed in NZ the ACTUAL number will be POTENTIALLY higher...there will be people infected who don`t even know it. That said...don`t panic and continue to do the basics well...hand washing and cover your mouth when you cough/sneeze. Anthony And I believe you will need to able to trace all 500 spectators, so names, ID's and allocated seating |
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Post by Tapped on Mar 19, 2020 14:31:18 GMT 12
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Post by Go Slideways on May 12, 2020 4:39:35 GMT 12
Mike Hosking this morning said something that makes perfect sense and sums the situation up perfectly. " Fear of the virus is the virus" After some careful consideration, I am of the opinion that Hoskings catchey sound bite is the most stupid thing I've ever heard by a New Zealand broadcaster. As well as being just plain stupid, its also the most dangerous public health advice broadcast to the nation by this weasel in the middle of a global pandemic - trying to plant the seed in peoples minds that there's really nothing to worry about, to encourage them not to bother doing anything other than what the hell they wanted to and look after number one cause there's nothing to fear. Dam the torpedo's It'll all come out in the wash, just hope nobody got infected, infected others, or died as a result of following Hoskings extremely poor advice. The 20 New Zealanders who are dead, they didn't die of fear. Neither did the 283,387 more dead around the world as of today. I dare Hosking to go face to face and tell any of the family and friends and whanau of those good people who are dead that it wasn't a medical condition that killed them, it was the fear of it, a condition he belittled in his role as a national broadcaster. What an totally insensitive prick to the deceased and the family friends and whanau who couldn't even hold a funneral or tangi. Hosking has laid down a very big insult. Businesses failing everywhere all round the world and millions suffering financial hardship and millions unemployed, in many cases on top of a bad domestic situation already. Borders shut. This is a reality not a fear. Thankfully despite Hosking spitting and spurting his hateful vile into his microphone daily, which must be a hotbed for all sorts of revolting bugs and gunge, the steps and sacrifices that all New Zealanders have made have been to get NZ back up and running safely, continuously for the long term motitaved by a planned strategy to address a medical and scientific problem, not banking on it being a made up imaginary fear where we just make a wish and it'll magically get blown away in April, or bury your head in the sand and do nothing. The most stupid, dangerous, reckless, negligent statement I've ever heard from a NZ broadcaster, and, what an insult. Yours Sincerley, "Undecided voter" PS: Nah - just kidding, I know who I'm voting for. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 5:57:06 GMT 12
I feel extremely sorry for the families of those
Who have died during this time. Especially those who were denied a chance to farewell their their loved ones. The true cost of kiwi lives won't be known for a long time. Those who have had their cancer treatment put off, their cancer screening or tests cancelled. The suicides, which we have heard anecdotal evidence of having risen already and is sure to increase. I can't understand how or why domestic violence happens but it does, and it's not just anecdotal evidence that shows that has increased since the lock down, including at least one murder, with charges being laid.
There are those like myself who have had their urgent elective surgical procedures cancelled, often leading to more pain or further complications. In my own case if mine isn't rescheduled for the fairly my near future it will prob mean having to give up work. Speaking of work, or lack of it, again from personal experience, I'm now receiving a small benefit for the first time in 32 years when I was on the dole fof 6 weeks. It wouldn't surprise me if half of the 68 staff I work with don't have jobs by the end of June. Never mind the 500ish sole traders who are contractors with the company I'm employed by. They have had little to no income except the wage subsidy and it doesn't look like it will get a lot better anytime soon.
You might say it's hindsight, and that's prob true but for the gov't to not have closed the international arival gates when we now find out they were first advised to do so was irresponsible at best, reckless at worst. The virus was only going to get here one way, and it sure wasn't going to be by swimming here.
When we see the other advice the gov't ignored in its typical arrogant "We know best" way, well to be honest it makes me mad.
For Jacinda to get up there now and say we can go to level 2 now cause "I trust our team of 5 million" is just an absolute joke when 9weeks ago she trusted German backpackers more than she trusted kiwis 6 weeks ago. Her ego and arrogance seem to know no bounds.
I maintain her desire to have the Christchurch memorial event clouded her judgement in the lead up to the lock down.
So do I still think Hosking was right? Yeah I think I still do. NZ was in a prime position the be almost unaffected, and those in power squandered that chance.
I just make two final points,
How many supermarket workers caught coronavirus? As far as I know it was 2, one in Hawkes Bay and one in Northland. One of whom was Asymptomatic. Surly supermarket workers were the most vulnerable of the essential workers in the country?
And finally most of those who the statistics will show died from coronavirus actually died with it, not from it. No less tragic, but a distinction that should be made.
Have a look at the docs that were (cynically) dumped last Friday afternoon and see the expert advice the gov't ignored, and the sheer incompetence of most of the ministers. It should make you mad as well.
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Post by Helios on May 12, 2020 8:57:02 GMT 12
Surly supermarket workers were the most vulnerable of the essential workers in the country? Were the well-mannered supermarket workers less vulnerable? |
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Post by woodart on May 12, 2020 13:49:52 GMT 12
pretty disappointing that we get the same old sadsacks on here, grinding their axes furiously. thought this was a speedway site but we get misogynists bleating. moderators? |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 15:55:54 GMT 12
I feel extremely sorry for the families of those Who have died during this time. Especially those who were denied a chance to farewell their their loved ones. The true cost of kiwi lives won't be known for a long time. Those who have had their cancer treatment put off, their cancer screening or tests cancelled. The suicides, which we have heard anecdotal evidence of having risen already and is sure to increase. I can't understand how or why domestic violence happens but it does, and it's not just anecdotal evidence that shows that has increased since the lock down, including at least one murder, with charges being laid. There are those like myself who have had their urgent elective surgical procedures cancelled, often leading to more pain or further complications. In my own case if mine isn't rescheduled for the fairly my near future it will prob mean having to give up work. Speaking of work, or lack of it, again from personal experience, I'm now receiving a small benefit for the first time in 32 years when I was on the dole fof 6 weeks. It wouldn't surprise me if half of the 68 staff I work with don't have jobs by the end of June. Never mind the 500ish sole traders who are contractors with the company I'm employed by. They have had little to no income except the wage subsidy and it doesn't look like it will get a lot better anytime soon. You might say it's hindsight, and that's prob true but for the gov't to not have closed the international arival gates when we now find out they were first advised to do so was irresponsible at best, reckless at worst. The virus was only going to get here one way, and it sure wasn't going to be by swimming here. When we see the other advice the gov't ignored in its typical arrogant "We know best" way, well to be honest it makes me mad. For Jacinda to get up there now and say we can go to level 2 now cause "I trust our team of 5 million" is just an absolute joke when 9weeks ago she trusted German backpackers more than she trusted kiwis 6 weeks ago. Her ego and arrogance seem to know no bounds. I maintain her desire to have the Christchurch memorial event clouded her judgement in the lead up to the lock down. So do I still think Hosking was right? Yeah I think I still do. NZ was in a prime position the be almost unaffected, and those in power squandered that chance. I just make two final points, How many supermarket workers caught coronavirus? As far as I know it was 2, one in Hawkes Bay and one in Northland. One of whom was Asymptomatic. Surly supermarket workers were the most vulnerable of the essential workers in the country? And finally most of those who the statistics will show died from coronavirus actually died with it, not from it. No less tragic, but a distinction that should be made. Have a look at the docs that were (cynically) dumped last Friday afternoon and see the expert advice the gov't ignored, and the sheer incompetence of most of the ministers. It should make you mad as well. Ramjam...I think I have an understanding of where your views are on this. With regards to the closure of borders...I agree that we got that wrong. The borders closed 19th March with 28 cases in NZ at that time all with overseas travel links. My understanding is that MoH had recommended that happen earlier. When the borders closed on the 19th it had been recommended that the closure include returning Kiwis...this was declined by Government. This recommendation was supposedly made again on March 25th...day before lockdown...and again declined. The recommendations would likely have been made on the basis that ANYONE coming in was at risk of bringing COVID with them. And this is still true today...one of our recent cases is a recently returned Kiwi. Now through all of this our cases in NZ continued to increase...as we knew they would...and we were watching Italy etc unfold before us. Lockdown became inevitable and everything within our health system changed...we had to prepare for any eventuality should nuts hit the fan. Unfortunately you became a casualty of this situation...and as time has dragged on you have every right to feel pissed off. We have likely dodged a bullet by implementing the measures we have and as a result...as health workers we feel positive moving forward. If the absolutely worst case scenario had happened...and we HAD to consider it might...our health system would have been screwed and I couldn`t begin to think when you might have received your surgery. My understanding is that DHBs are preparing to move ahead very soon and I sincerely hope your rescheduling occurs in the not to distant future. Anthony |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 16:23:04 GMT 12
Thanks for that supersaloonfanLikewise, I also see where you are coming from. My main disappointment thru all this with the health sector is that as a whole its been about as agile as the Queen Mary. When the planned influx didn't happen and it was obvious it wasn't going to happen, why were plans not in place to triage deferred waiting lists in different departments and make a start on the most urgent cases, or the cases that would require the least resources or whatever the criteria being used was. To have facilities sitting near idle when the need is so great is near criminal to my mind. Pls know this criticism is not of the hard working rank and file medical professionals. It is of management, policy makers and in particular the absolute waste of space of minister of health, who has been largely invisible thru this whole thing. A reason for his invisibility is prob the PM hiding him away, like she is with most of her short of talent brigade, but I'm sure you already know my thoughts on that subject lol. Keep up the good work, your insights are appreciated. |
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Post by BarryB on May 12, 2020 18:45:53 GMT 12
pretty disappointing that we get the same old sadsacks on here, grinding their axes furiously. thought this was a speedway site but we get misogynists bleating. moderators? I'll give the opinion of the only moderator whose opinion I know, mine. There has been no Speedway for some months now, so threads like this are hardly taking up space. The thread header makes it quite clear what it's about, so there's no need to enter a thread in error that's not discussing Speedway. On top of that, Covid-19 will have affected the life of EVERY SINGLE MACGORIAN, so I feel they have every right to discuss it in their favourite Internet location. Other moderators May feel differently. Barry B |
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Post by midway on May 12, 2020 19:32:13 GMT 12
To my friend the one and only Sir Rammer Jam I hear your call on urgent surgery to be needed in these demanding times of the unknown We offer you free of charge a surgical team of experts that can accomplish the most difficult operations under taken by man or woman on this planet .. You will receive upon the table a small glass of liquid looking but not tasting like water ,then once down the hatch ,the surgical team can commence to undertake experimental procedures for medical science ,with certain items extracted ,they could be replaced by animal organs giving you a much extended life span . And if it should by chance go wrong ,we will sing you this song Oh Lord its hard to be humble and perfect in every way ,we knew old Al he wont have much more to say .. |
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it would take a month chipping away at frances, coke a cola fridges full of ice for a start ,then another six months dismantling the sewer pipes after your committee meetings ,plus i think Drever and king left some hidden treasure under there for there emergency fund .
