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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 11:07:13 GMT 12
So last weekend down this end of the North Island, as far as I know, Hawke's Bay were the only track running. Elsewhere I know Chch and 2ks both ran. I'm sure a other tracks ran elsewhere but not sure where.
This week, while they are all cancelled that's not the point, Stratford, Wanganui, Palmy and Welly were all scheduled to run. I'm sure all would have run good meetings but outside of a couple of Stockcars visiting palmy, a couple of Modifieds visiting Welly and the tq field there would only have been locals running at each track and pretty much only their local fans.
ANZAC day and I doubt either will run, again not the point, Auckland and Huntly were both due to run. Both were scheduled to run Stockcars, Superstocks and Modifieds.
Can anyone else see a problem here.
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Post by hbhornets on Mar 18, 2020 11:16:38 GMT 12
Would love tracks to have to make calanders together. And have less meetings. More friday night/Sunday meetings as well.
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Post by woodart on Mar 18, 2020 12:45:44 GMT 12
if you look at the problem mathematically, only 20 or so saturday nights in a speedway season, even less for most tracks. thats not going to change. so, take away what cant change, and work with what can change, as hb hornets has suggested. maybe more speedweeks, as steve williams does.friday night clubnights with cheaper admission, skeleton staff. sunday midmorning start meetings,( my favourite for winter meetings).dont be a conservative, radical occasions need new thinking.
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Post by epmurc on Mar 18, 2020 14:10:03 GMT 12
ANZAC day and I doubt either will run, again not the point, Auckland and Huntly were both due to run. Both were scheduled to run Stockcars, Superstocks and Modifieds. Can anyone else see a problem here. Probably not the best example to make your point. Huntly moving to Anzac weekend was a last minute thing to piggy-back Speedfest onto the Supercars at Hampton downs. Waikaraka would have reacted positively to that. |
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Post by epmurc on Mar 18, 2020 14:18:43 GMT 12
........friday night clubnights with cheaper admission, skeleton staff................. Just because it's a Friday night the fixed costs don't change. Water for the track, power for the lights, SNZ fee, Ambulance fee etc. etc. and the staff numbers, especially around the track and crash crews cannot be reduced. Crowd numbers will certainly be down so you'd have to charge the racers a levy to sudsidise the costs................and most likely no prize-money either. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 14:27:30 GMT 12
ANZAC day and I doubt either will run, again not the point, Auckland and Huntly were both due to run. Both were scheduled to run Stockcars, Superstocks and Modifieds. Can anyone else see a problem here. Probably not the best example to make your point. Huntly moving to Anzac weekend was a last minute thing to piggy-back Speedfest onto the Supercars at Hampton downs. Waikaraka would have reacted positively to that. actually in that case I'd say it's the best example to use in that case. Not only were no steps taken to avoid this clash, steps were taken to create the bloody thing. If that doesn't give us, as speedway fans runny poos, then I don't know what does. |
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Post by woodart on Mar 18, 2020 15:02:28 GMT 12
........friday night clubnights with cheaper admission, skeleton staff................. Just because it's a Friday night the fixed costs don't change. Water for the track, power for the lights, SNZ fee, Ambulance fee etc. etc. and the staff numbers, especially around the track and crash crews cannot be reduced. Crowd numbers will certainly be down so you'd have to charge the racers a levy to sudsidise the costs................and most likely no prize-money either. heres an idea from left feild. dont run with a SNZ sanction for club nights. I bet its cheaper to run under ctra for a club night.and dont say it cant be done. anything can be done if there is a will for it. tracks in america run under different sanctioning bodies for different events. |
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Post by chevy1957 on Mar 18, 2020 15:05:43 GMT 12
Probably not the best example to make your point. Huntly moving to Anzac weekend was a last minute thing to piggy-back Speedfest onto the Supercars at Hampton downs. Waikaraka would have reacted positively to that. actually in that case I'd say it's the best example to use in that case. Not only were no steps taken to avoid this clash, steps were taken to create the bloody thing. If that doesn't give us, as speedway fans runny poos, then I don't know what does. Do you have plenty of toilet paper to clean up the runny poos.  |
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Post by Tapped on Mar 18, 2020 15:56:06 GMT 12
Some questions, if i may be so bold.
1. Why is Friday night, more often than not considered a club meeting?
1.a. Why cant a friday night be a normal race night?
2. Why cant Sunday afternoons be on the table for discussion, as regular meetings? I know resource consents, council permits, etc are needed, but they are just an email away - if promoters have a good relationship with local councils/residents.
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Post by bikeboy on Mar 18, 2020 16:52:14 GMT 12
Just because it's a Friday night the fixed costs don't change. Water for the track, power for the lights, SNZ fee, Ambulance fee etc. etc. and the staff numbers, especially around the track and crash crews cannot be reduced. Crowd numbers will certainly be down so you'd have to charge the racers a levy to sudsidise the costs................and most likely no prize-money either. heres an idea from left feild. dont run with a SNZ sanction for club nights. I bet its cheaper to run under ctra for a club night.and dont say it cant be done. anything can be done if there is a will for it. tracks in america run under different sanctioning bodies for different events. you cant just run speedway NZ sanction when you want, American is set up very different to us, |
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Post by woodart on Mar 18, 2020 18:00:55 GMT 12
cant be done. anything can be done if there is a will for it. tracks in america run under different sanctioning bodies for different events.[/quote]you cant just run speedway NZ sanction when you want, American is set up very different to us, [/quote]
SNZ is competitor run. if enough competitors want to be able to split tracks into different sanctioning bodies, its not difficult.the difficult part is changeing the "cant be done" mindset.
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Post by craige on Mar 18, 2020 18:10:37 GMT 12
So last weekend down this end of the North Island, as far as I know, Hawke's Bay were the only track running. Elsewhere I know Chch and 2ks both ran. I'm sure a other tracks ran elsewhere but not sure where. This week, while they are all cancelled that's not the point, Stratford, Wanganui, Palmy and Welly were all scheduled to run. I'm sure all would have run good meetings but outside of a couple of Stockcars visiting palmy, a couple of Modifieds visiting Welly and the tq field there would only have been locals running at each track and pretty much only their local fans. ANZAC day and I doubt either will run, again not the point, Auckland and Huntly were both due to run. Both were scheduled to run Stockcars, Superstocks and Modifieds. Can anyone else see a problem here. Yeah. Your addicted to speedway😂😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 18:20:23 GMT 12
Can anyone else see a problem here. Yeah. Your addicted to speedway😂😂😂 That addiction phase has long passed. Unfortunately I think the enthusiastic supporter phase is coming to an end as well. Frustrated fan is prob how I'd put it now and i don't know how long before that gets downgraded. |
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Post by graemeh on Mar 18, 2020 18:56:59 GMT 12
Yeah. Your addicted to speedway😂😂😂 That addiction phase has long passed. Unfortunately I think the enthusiastic supporter phase is coming to an end as well. Frustrated fan is prob how I'd put it now and i don't know how long before that gets downgraded. You need to do what I did years ago, plan your season around the big meetings, forget what you know about the ins and outs of speedway, not worry about rules being broken and just enjoy the racing for what it is. You cant change results so accept them as they are. If you think a meeting may be mediocre, go with your gut and give it a miss. It doesn't hurt to have the odd Saturday away from Speedway. I probably do 12 to 15 meetings a year (half would be 2 dayers) yet only 4 or 5 would be at my local track. Focus on your favourite class. Resist the temptation to try and convince others to see things your way, but if you feel the need give your opinion or the facts (there is a difference) on here ask your self "will this change anything?" May not work for you but when I do go I'm almost always glad that I did. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 19:12:51 GMT 12
That addiction phase has long passed. Unfortunately I think the enthusiastic supporter phase is coming to an end as well. Frustrated fan is prob how I'd put it now and i don't know how long before that gets downgraded. You need to do what I did years ago, plan your season around the big meetings, forget what you know about the ins and outs of speedway, not worry about rules being broken and just enjoy the racing for what it is. You cant change results so accept them as they are. If you think a meeting may be mediocre, go with your gut and give it a miss. It doesn't hurt to have the odd Saturday away from Speedway. I probably do 12 to 15 meetings a year (half would be 2 dayers) yet only 4 or 5 would be at my local track. Focus on your favourite class. Resist the temptation to try and convince others to see things your way, but if you feel the need give your opinion or the facts (there is a difference) on here ask your self "will this change anything?" May not work for you but when I do go I'm almost always glad that I did. great answer, and I think I'll take that advice. I know every track can have a bad night every now and then but I'm lucky that my local generally run good short sharp meetings without trying to run 20 classes. Whilst I will prob stay local most times I'll have more freedom next season to go where I want, or not go at all if nothing tickles my fancy, so will be able to pick and choose a bit more. BTW In my world my opinion IS fact. Lol |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Mar 18, 2020 19:12:53 GMT 12
I remember reading in a dirt track mag after the 90/91 season Barry Brown saying he went to 66 meetings around nz,hows that for a Speedway addiction.
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Post by craige on Mar 18, 2020 19:23:43 GMT 12
Yeah. Your addicted to speedway😂😂😂 That addiction phase has long passed. Unfortunately I think the enthusiastic supporter phase is coming to an end as well. Frustrated fan is prob how I'd put it now and i don't know how long before that gets downgraded. You not wrong mate after 30 odd years of competing and watching I have slowly lost interest. Hell I streamed battle of stocks and turned the telly off at 9am on the 2nd night as was bored as f$&k |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 19:25:38 GMT 12
That addiction phase has long passed. Unfortunately I think the enthusiastic supporter phase is coming to an end as well. Frustrated fan is prob how I'd put it now and i don't know how long before that gets downgraded. You not wrong mate after 30 odd years of competing and watching I have slowly lost interest. Hell I streamed battle of stocks and turned the telly off at 9am on the 2nd night as was bored as f$&k 9am, hell was it held at Hawkes Bay? 😂😂 |
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Post by graemeh on Mar 18, 2020 19:29:21 GMT 12
That addiction phase has long passed. Unfortunately I think the enthusiastic supporter phase is coming to an end as well. Frustrated fan is prob how I'd put it now and i don't know how long before that gets downgraded. You not wrong mate after 30 odd years of competing and watching I have slowly lost interest. Hell I streamed battle of stocks and turned the telly off at 9am on the 2nd night as was bored as f$&k It's a bit like Roast dinners or Sex, if you have it every night eventually the novelty wears off. |
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Post by petrolfumes on Mar 18, 2020 19:47:09 GMT 12
I remember reading in a dirt track mag after the 90/91 season Barry Brown saying he went to 66 meetings around nz,hows that for a Speedway addiction. Youll find there are still a couple out there doing these Numbers : BOP is one |
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