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Post by bighits2 on Mar 27, 2020 18:54:15 GMT 12
Hi team just after peoples thoughts. We are looking at stepping up a class and have really struggled to get prices on brand new chassis and engine builds. The guys that advertise "for all your needs seem to be the worst" all the excuses and no results. So far we have been waiting since the end of January and still nothing from 2 of them. They will text or email a response but nothing in $$$.
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Post by screaminV8 on Mar 28, 2020 7:17:05 GMT 12
I assume from your profile name you are talking stepping up to superstocks?
Just as a general principle, I find picking up the phone gets a better response than e-mails or texts - as that gives
You the opportunity for a genuine conversation. and not just seen as another possible tyrekicker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 17:36:26 GMT 12
and be Very careful who you deal with!!
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Post by 1986driver on Mar 29, 2020 19:27:04 GMT 12
Maybe more than just this season
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Post by mudman on Mar 30, 2020 12:25:47 GMT 12
Surely these businesses will now have the time to respond and do a little pricing during the lockdown?
There are a few bandits out there who won’t quote then charge hard as well as ones who promise ‘top of the line’ but it’s never as good as their pet drivers. In saying that most are still genuine helpful people
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Post by The Observer on Mar 30, 2020 13:44:51 GMT 12
The rule of thumb used to be buy it at the track, then the good bits are on it and you get he proper race day spares
If your stepping up a class money would probably be best spent on a going concern, then upgrade from there.
At least these days there is a very wide number of we’ll known chassis builders and engine builders
Off the top of my head - and running North to South...
Vazey
Chestnutt
Top Gear
Westbury
Hampton Tri Rails
Ellsworth and co?
Kuriger
Gordge
Lintern
Podjursky Race Tanks
Rees Race Cars
Demon
BWC
Heyburn Tri Rails
Higgens
Leech QTR chassis
What chassis builders have I missed? Tried to include those who have built 3 or more in the last 10 years ish
No wonder we are in the glory age of superstocks
Engine building lists for speedway just as long
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 8:46:26 GMT 12
My advice would be go for the more popular chassis builders who are in the business to build race cars only . If you go for people who have another job and only build race cars part time you could be in for a wait.
If paying a deposit , again i would only be doing it with a full time and well known builder.
I went down the track of using cowboys when getting work done on my last 2 superstocks and both turned to crap , both cars sat in these guys sheds for months and virtually nothing was done to them and both ended up being sold off in bits.
And it wasnt due to me not having the funds , as i had a decent budget i was willing to fork out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 10:31:44 GMT 12
My advice would be go for the more popular chassis builders who are in the business to build race cars only . I went down the track of using cowboys when getting work done on my last 2 superstocks and both turned to crap , both cars sat in these guys sheds for months and virtually nothing was done to them and both ended up being sold off in bits. That how it happens alright, you start off with the money and energy, But you wait so long for things to happen that the budget slowly gets used on other things and after a long spell you still only find a part built car in your shed...and that just leads to anger and frustration. Im in that position and have been for over three years, in fact Covid19 Lock down forced the postponement of a second hearing in the District court after the other guy didnt turn up to the first one. . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 13:13:05 GMT 12
The guys on Obbys list are pretty good at building racecars , but i guess some get snowed under . I found it was the so called Racecar Buiders [ not on Obbys list ] that like to make out they are expert racecar builders are the ones who will give you problems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 14:23:30 GMT 12
Just to clarify, the person I refer to is not on the above list.
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Post by beachboy on Mar 31, 2020 18:20:35 GMT 12
One things for sure, nobody will be building cars without getting the $$$ before hand now.
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Post by craige on Mar 31, 2020 18:47:12 GMT 12
The rule of thumb used to be buy it at the track, then the good bits are on it and you get he proper race day spares If your stepping up a class money would probably be best spent on a going concern, then upgrade from there. At least these days there is a very wide number of we’ll known chassis builders and engine builders Off the top of my head - and running North to South... Vazey Chestnutt Top Gear Westbury Hampton Tri Rails Ellsworth and co? Kuriger Gordge Lintern Podjursky Race Tanks Rees Race Cars Demon BWC Heyburn Tri Rails Higgens Leech QTR chassis What chassis builders have I missed? Tried to include those who have built 3 or more in the last 10 years ish No wonder we are in the glory age of superstocks Engine building lists for speedway just as long kieth gill justin at 2j engineering |
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Post by Go Slideways on Mar 31, 2020 19:01:26 GMT 12
The rule of thumb used to be buy it at the track, then the good bits are on it and you get he proper race day spares If your stepping up a class money would probably be best spent on a going concern, then upgrade from there. At least these days there is a very wide number of we’ll known chassis builders and engine builders Off the top of my head - and running North to South... Vazey Chestnutt Top Gear Westbury Hampton Tri Rails Ellsworth and co? Kuriger Gordge Lintern Podjursky Race Tanks Rees Race Cars Demon BWC Heyburn Tri Rails Higgens Leech QTR chassis What chassis builders have I missed? Tried to include those who have built 3 or more in the last 10 years ish No wonder we are in the glory age of superstocks Engine building lists for speedway just as long I looked it up: "Rule of thumb - The 'rule of thumb' has been said to derive from the belief that English law allowed a man to beat his wife with a stick so long as it is was no thicker than his thumb." I suppose thats why the transaction used to happen at the track, could always break out the rule of thumb if negotiations got a bit heated.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 15:09:56 GMT 12
lol where did you get that..its a goodie, (no I dont condone family violence) the rule of thumb is in fact an old english farmers way of telling when his pigs had the correct amount of fat to meat for the best pork products. He would slide a thumb up the jaxxie of the pig and measure the thickness of the meat between his thumb and forefinger...from the River Cottages master Butcher, River cottage Autumn...tv show. I shyt you not lol..
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Post by fastrota78 on Apr 1, 2020 21:17:21 GMT 12
Barr Motorsport is another...?
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Post by Go Slideways on Apr 1, 2020 22:05:40 GMT 12
lol where did you get that..its a goodie, (no I dont condone family violence) the rule of thumb is in fact an old english farmers way of telling when his pigs had the correct amount of fat to meat for the best pork products. He would slide a thumb up the jaxxie of the pig and measure the thickness of the meat between his thumb and forefinger...from the River Cottages master Butcher, River cottage Autumn...tv show. I shyt you not lol.. No kidding @zitadel, I'm no swine expert but after washing my hands I searched again and Uncle google does say a few times about the whacking stick. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumbwww.phrases.org.uk/meanings/rule-of-thumb.html |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 22:24:48 GMT 12
lol where did you get that..its a goodie, (no I dont condone family violence) the rule of thumb is in fact an old english farmers way of telling when his pigs had the correct amount of fat to meat for the best pork products. He would slide a thumb up the jaxxie of the pig and measure the thickness of the meat between his thumb and forefinger...from the River Cottages master Butcher, River cottage Autumn...tv show. I shyt you not lol.. No kidding @zitadel, I'm no swine expert but after washing my hands I searched again and Uncle google does say a few times about the whacking stick. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumbwww.phrases.org.uk/meanings/rule-of-thumb.htmlDont know which would be the one to choose from, beating the wife with a cane, or sticking your fingers in a pigs butt! Neither sound very good! |
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Post by nogrip-31gm on Apr 7, 2020 10:20:30 GMT 12
The rule of thumb used to be buy it at the track, then the good bits are on it and you get he proper race day spares If your stepping up a class money would probably be best spent on a going concern, then upgrade from there. At least these days there is a very wide number of we’ll known chassis builders and engine builders Off the top of my head - and running North to South... Vazey Chestnutt Top Gear Westbury Hampton Tri Rails Ellsworth and co? Kuriger Gordge Lintern Podjursky Race Tanks Rees Race Cars Demon BWC Heyburn Tri Rails Higgens Leech QTR chassis What chassis builders have I missed? Tried to include those who have built 3 or more in the last 10 years ish No wonder we are in the glory age of superstocks Engine building lists for speedway just as long this is a great list Obby... question... is there a directory that includes all of these builders, plus every other builder, including all contact details etc available for anything to browse? Engine builders would also be a great list to add as would suspension/wheel/tyre suppliers.. These are often hard to find sources when someone new is trying to find info or look into options. |
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Post by mrdamage on Apr 20, 2020 18:12:04 GMT 12
I'll start;
Engine Builders;
Llama Engineering
CHS
Morrison
Reconz
Oconnor
Hartley
HPE
Fittings, Shocks, Springs;
Cardwells
Fastlane Spares
Motorsport Warehouse
Pro Parts
Silvester Performance
Wheels;
Elite Wheels
Cardwells
Woodford Glen Shop
Mag Warehouse (selected ones)
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