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Post by brettgrace on Jun 26, 2020 14:56:16 GMT 12
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jun 26, 2020 15:04:56 GMT 12
Will be good news if Bruce gets the job for both tracks in Auckland in the long run.
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Post by sonic33 on Jun 26, 2020 19:34:01 GMT 12
Interesting.
Wonder if part of the proposal was to work on a merger to phase out Western Springs, and work towards getting the racing in one place, under one promoter in X amount of years.
I think Bruce would be more "user friendly" for council as possibly will see benefits to merging, where as Bill was regularly fighting to keep Western Springs (understandably), or recently, trying to have a new venue provided for him.
You never know, if Bruce can make a bit of coin, whilst working with the council to wrap up western springs, and merge to Waikaraka Park, he may even be rewarded with a new grandstand in a few years time! Haha.
There is a conspiracy theory for ya.
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jun 26, 2020 19:41:38 GMT 12
Sonic33 I think you have hit the nail on the head. Brue is getting a fancy new stadium set up down the line. He knows how to play the councils game using their rules. Hopefully speedway in Auckland can now move forward with a nice new facility.
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jun 26, 2020 22:36:36 GMT 12
So Bruce Robertson is not the promoter of Waikaraka anymore and Frank Irvine is back in charge?
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Post by Go Slideways on Jun 27, 2020 1:15:33 GMT 12
It's a case of wait and see.
I'm not shooting off to the TAB to bet on the outcome just yet - the article refers to anonymous "sources" then makes a major error of research by omitting the fact that Bruce promotes Meeanee Speedway as well, and use's the phrases: "Whilst not yet signed off officially", "it does not officially confirm", "but his likelihood", "now seemingly", "on the understanding", "this could be taken as a sign"..
...all means the article is pretty speculative to me.
On the subject of Waikaraka Park - Think Big crazy idea #197
Maybe build a very large 2 storey building, like a massive parking building.
Public parking, pits underneath, track and seating on the top layer.
Would provide bigger pits and more public parking and need the same or less land than now, in winter swap the public parking to the top floor and the ground floor could be used for bowls or basketball or similar as an indoor venue.
...wait'll you hear crazy idea #198
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 8:09:04 GMT 12
I like your crazy ideas Go Slideways, well some most of them anyway. Can I play the devil's advocate for a minute. What would happen if Bruce Robertson does get given Western Springs lease. Bill Buckley or rather SPL can get another track built and up to SNZ specs by season start. Bill says I'm the current track licence owner for Auckland open wheel classes. I'm just going to transfer it to a new venue. Would SNZ say no. The track licence goes with the venue? Would they say Sorry Mr Robertson but Mr Buckley owns the Auckland area track licence for these classes? Or would they issue licences to both tracks? Could Mr Robertson add the WS classes to the Wacky Park track licence and run the smaller WS meetings at WP along with an normal WP on a weekend when one or two WP classes are away at national champs. Thus not competing against himself? Not saying any of these scenarios will play out. Just asking what if? |
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Post by percy on Jun 27, 2020 12:25:25 GMT 12
I like your crazy ideas Go Slideways, well some most of them anyway. Can I play the devil's advocate for a minute. What would happen if Bruce Robertson does get given Western Springs lease. Bill Buckley or rather SPL can get another track built and up to SNZ specs by season start. Bill says I'm the current track licence owner for Auckland open wheel classes. I'm just going to transfer it to a new venue. Whilst admiring your creativity, your idea is pure fantasy. Nobody is funding a new track. Nobody is going through the red tape to consent a new track. Nobody is building a new track. |
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Post by midway on Jun 27, 2020 19:32:05 GMT 12
I dont think Buffalo Bill will give up the fight to carry on to easy myself ,He is one tuff old war horse when push comes to shove . There is another obstacle that could turn things to Edmonds Custard  the judges decision re the historic preservation of the grandstand at Wacky park ,its not all chalk & cheese just yet for those who have a fantasy ... But i do hope for the benefit of the sport ,there is a good out come to it all and we witness some long awaited open wheel racing .. |
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Post by midway on Jun 29, 2020 15:33:26 GMT 12
So Bruce Robertson is not the promoter of Waikaraka anymore and Frank Irvine is back in charge? Being a Sticky Beck the kiwi type of bloke lol one would of thought you may of gone to the AGM and caught up with all the current news and being able to report it back to us far out of towners while we are having a coffee break and a sneak revue on the interests of the world news .. |
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Post by petrolfumes on Jun 29, 2020 16:17:47 GMT 12
So Bruce Robertson is not the promoter of Waikaraka anymore and Frank Irvine is back in charge? Being a Sticky Beck the kiwi type of bloke lol one would of thought you may of gone to the AGM and caught up with all the current news and being able to report it back to us far out of towners while we are having a coffee break and a sneak revue on the interests of the world news .. apparently AGM was not open to all and sundry |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jun 29, 2020 16:28:29 GMT 12
Being a Sticky Beck the kiwi type of bloke lol one would of thought you may of gone to the AGM and caught up with all the current news and being able to report it back to us far out of towners while we are having a coffee break and a sneak revue on the interests of the world news .. apparently AGM was not open to all and sundry Yes public were not aloud to go in,you had to be a member,i might of gone and had a sneaky little look otherwise midway lol. |
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Post by midway on Jun 29, 2020 17:20:43 GMT 12
One thing you will have to look at more seriously is the new speed restrictions on the streets of jaffa land and some open road s they have come down ..It will catch Magilla out for sure and Roger, they are simply to slow to register the change .  Oh well i will have to bribe one of my informants on the latest gossip of the AGM ,,i will give him a fresh tea bag for his cuppa .instead of the ones that dry on the window sill in the sun ,and a broken girl guide biscuit that will get his tongue wagging for sure in the office ..... |
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Post by speedinaway on Jun 29, 2020 19:05:07 GMT 12
Being a Sticky Beck the kiwi type of bloke lol one would of thought you may of gone to the AGM and caught up with all the current news and being able to report it back to us far out of towners while we are having a coffee break and a sneak revue on the interests of the world news .. apparently AGM was not open to all and sundry Yes numbers kept to a minimum for health reasons. Bruce is still promoting Waikaraka. Not alot new. Same committee voted in again unopposed. Three new life members. Update on the Grandstand, should be gone and 2000 + temp grandstand in place by mid November. We'll see..... |
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Post by midway on Jun 29, 2020 20:47:22 GMT 12
apparently AGM was not open to all and sundry Yes numbers kept to a minimum for health reasons. Bruce is still promoting Waikaraka. Not alot new. Same committee voted in again unopposed. Three new life members. Update on the Grandstand, should be gone and 2000 + temp grandstand in place by mid November. We'll see..... Thanks i will get a update on the new life members ,.. |
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Post by bikeboy on Jun 30, 2020 5:58:09 GMT 12
Will be good news if Bruce gets the job for both tracks in Auckland in the long run. IMO, not if you want western springs to stay where it is, |
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jul 1, 2020 17:56:44 GMT 12
RFA ANNOUNCES SUCCESSFUL TENDER FOR SPEEDWAY OPERATIONS AT WESTERN SPRINGS STADIUM
Regional Facilities Auckland (RFA) announced today that, following a competitive tender process, Bruce Robertson from Palmerston North Speedway Limited has been selected as the new promoter for speedway operations at Western Springs Speedway.
Bruce’s success in securing the Western Springs contract reflects his considerable experience and success as a promoter, his strong focus on partnering with key stakeholders, and the strength of the commercial proposition put forward.
The current one-year venue hire agreement with Springs Promotions Ltd expired on 31 March 2020. The new, two-year venue hire agreement will be valid through to March 2022, with the option of two subsequent rights of renewal of one year each.
Bruce Robertson is a life member of Speedway New Zealand. According to the tender evaluation panel, he has an established track record as a successful speedway promoter who has helped increase driver numbers across the three tracks he is currently associated with. Having started his involvement in speedway as a successful stockcar driver, Bruce “has a very strong focus on meeting the needs of drivers. His philosophy is to create a safe and competitive racing environment that attracts drivers, allows good racing, which in turn drives public interest and attendance”.
Mr Robertson’s tender was endorsed by a number of open wheel representatives, particularly as he is committed to continuing to present the traditional Western Springs speedway classes while introducing new initiatives to grow attendance numbers. Most years, in the off season, he travels to the USA to watch Sprintcar and Midget racing and for 15 years has assisted in bringing international open wheel competitors to New Zealand.
The announcement follows a significant period of uncertainty about the future of the sport at Western Springs Stadium. The venue continues to operate while not being a designated motorsport precinct under the Auckland Unitary Plan, and speedway operations are still limited to 12 race meets and two practice sessions per summer season.
RFA’s Chief Executive, Chris Brooks, said the new agreement is a positive step for the sport of speedway in Auckland.
“We are confident that Bruce and his team will successfully continue to build the public appeal of speedway.”
The tender evaluation panel included representation from Speedway New Zealand to ensure appropriate subject matter expertise.
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Post by charlie on Jul 2, 2020 10:06:29 GMT 12
I hope we dont end up in a situation of a pissing match between Bill/Bruce now. Bill to my understanding still has baypark, last thing we need for open wheel racing is Bill scheduling races against WS as you can be sure midgets will feature regularly at BP now. BSL cars will most likely wear the M on the tail tank too im sure.
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Post by accobra on Jul 2, 2020 10:50:29 GMT 12
I hope we dont end up in a situation of a pissing match between Bill/Bruce now. Bill to my understanding still has baypark, last thing we need for open wheel racing is Bill scheduling races against WS as you can be sure midgets will feature regularly at BP now. BSL cars will most likely wear the M on the tail tank too im sure. I hope this doesn't happen either. Open Wheel needs to work together. What driver / team wants to travel to BP every meeting anyway. I'm sure Bruce will be all over this. |
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Post by Hoosier on Jul 2, 2020 13:49:27 GMT 12
I hope we dont end up in a situation of a pissing match between Bill/Bruce now. Bill to my understanding still has baypark, last thing we need for open wheel racing is Bill scheduling races against WS as you can be sure midgets will feature regularly at BP now. BSL cars will most likely wear the M on the tail tank too im sure. I hope this doesn't happen either. Open Wheel needs to work together. What driver / team wants to travel to BP every meeting anyway. I'm sure Bruce will be all over this. I guess those allegiances will be born out of where cars register. That alone dictates where you MUST race on Sat IF your track has a meeting.At present most want to run at the Springs, it would be stupidity to attempt to run a midget show at BP on the same night with what would be a limited amount of registered cars. Last year one car registered to BP (I stand to be corrected but i only know of one).Is this seriously going to grow? I think the new promotion would be given a shot -they just need to get in front of the stakeholders. What needs to happen before is some communication with the stakeholders eg competitors and car/team owners. Be nice to have some surety about the situation given the level of investment in providing a very important component for the promotion to function-aside from a track! Thank you Mr Buckley for all that you have invested over many years.It has been quite extraordinary.Sadly there was at least one willing to take advantage of that -lets hope the courts remedy that wrong. Long live open wheel racing and good luck to the new promotion it will be fascinating to see what happens.There is clearly nothing wrong with the product, I hope that remains as God intended 90 years ago. |
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the judges decision re the historic preservation of the grandstand at Wacky park ,its not all chalk & cheese just yet for those who have a fantasy ...
