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Post by sonic33 on Jan 16, 2021 22:46:18 GMT 12
What a year for KK
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Post by BarryB on Jan 16, 2021 22:51:32 GMT 12
Heck of a third heat and well worth waiting for. Faith in Stockcars restored. One great race out of about 45 races. But yes, that was a Heat 3 classic. |
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Post by hercules on Jan 16, 2021 22:52:13 GMT 12
Think it’s time we rename this class as SUPERstocks as that was superb racing and some brutal club racing.
Rename the current superstocks as maybe mini modifieds as they as just a tad slower and smaller than modifieds 😎
Bring on the welly stock car teams racing as that will be insane if this is anything to go by, and the pits media are back for that 😎
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 16, 2021 23:06:29 GMT 12
Heck of a third heat and well worth waiting for. Faith in Stockcars restored. One great race out of about 45 races. But yes, that was a Heat 3 classic. Got to disagree with you. Red group heat 3 was epic. |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 16, 2021 23:11:51 GMT 12
One great race out of about 45 races. But yes, that was a Heat 3 classic. Got to disagree with you. Red group heat 3 was epic. Okay. Two great races out of about 45 races. Barry B |
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Post by percy on Jan 16, 2021 23:27:08 GMT 12
Just want to touch briefly on the weight situation and what the rules are
M7-4 Specific Technical Offences
M7-4-1 Over or under weight
(e) Allocated titles:
(i) At all allocated titles the top three placed vehicles from every race must report to the scales or vehicle inspection area for weight checking at the completion of every race.
And as per the fixed penalties schedule the penalty is "excluded from the results of the race"
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Post by fanforlife on Jan 17, 2021 5:53:53 GMT 12
Big congratulations to Ben his dad will have a smile from ear to ear watching from up above. |
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Post by Graeme Mead on Jan 17, 2021 5:58:22 GMT 12
Over some years there has been a few exclusions from titles and championships for this reason...failing to weigh after a race.
The drivers are just wanting to get back to the pit area..theres lots going on and lots being said by lots of different people...
Rotorua had a white board at the pit gate this year with the car numbers on it who had to weigh in post race and I think at least 2 SNZ people directing and gaining the attention of the drivers to go to the weigh bridge.. problem solved very easily..
A simple solution that is easily replicated..
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Post by midway on Jan 17, 2021 12:29:29 GMT 12
It is good to see the interest in Stock car racing has not suffered to the extent of some of the other classes in the sport ,
The young age of even the top competitors is true testament of the racing in this class brings for every one to enjoy.
Regardless of all the usual activity be hind the scenes this championship will be one of the most exciting on the calendar to watch out for next season ..
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Post by Higgins on Jan 17, 2021 15:04:14 GMT 12
Just want to touch briefly on the weight situation and what the rules are M7-4 Specific Technical Offences M7-4-1 Over or under weight (e) Allocated titles: (i) At all allocated titles the top three placed vehicles from every race must report to the scales or vehicle inspection area for weight checking at the completion of every race. And as per the fixed penalties schedule the penalty is "excluded from the results of the race" I might be being pedantic but there can be instances where a driver might not be aware that they placed in the first three. For example there might be a few big pileups early in the race resulting an a number of DNFs and the race leaders getting a large break on the field. A car coming from the back could get held up or inconvenienced just clearing the melee/s and could be unaware of the cars that he passed doing so. Those passed cars could rejoin the race and continue on at top pace immediately in front of you on the very next lap. It would be possible for a driver to be unaware of the real situation, particularly if he too gets spun up and some lapped cars pass him as a result ie possibly unlapping themselves or maybe they could be passing him in the race order. The problem could further be confused if the "second placed" car is, lets say three quarters of a lap behind the winner (or even lapped by the winner) with plenty of cars inbetween them when the white and chequered flags are thrown. There is also the grand daddy of them all if the third placed car forgets to comply with the weighing requirements but is subsequently relegated a couple of positions for a pole line infringement thus meaning that they, albeit subsequently, were not required to go over the scales as they were not in the "official" first three placegetters. We could get to the situation where every singe finisher demands to be weighed at race end just in case the are in the top three when the results are declared! There are probably other things that you could dream up to prove confusion as to your finishing position so really the onus should be on the officials to direct the required cars to the scales as they leave the race track. |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 17, 2021 15:20:05 GMT 12
Higgins, it was the vastly experienced Wayne Hemi that raised this very question at the Rotorua drivers briefing. After a discussion, his question ultimately resulted in the white board that was used at the NZ Superstock Championship and arguably should have been used at Meeanee as well.
Barry B
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Post by clifford6 on Jan 17, 2021 16:48:17 GMT 12
So, if 2nd & 3rd didn't weigh. Do 4th & 5th then move up to 2nd & 3rd? IF this is the case, DID 4th & 5th place getters weigh to enable them to "Legally" take those positions according to the rule book?  ? Just asking. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 18:33:43 GMT 12
So, if 2nd & 3rd didn't weigh. Do 4th & 5th then move up to 2nd & 3rd? IF this is the case, DID 4th & 5th place getters weigh to enable them to "Legally" take those positions according to the rule book? ? Just asking. There is a difference between a driver who comes second and a driver who comes 4th later promoted to 2nd. Just saying. |
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Post by Sharns With Sparky on Jan 18, 2021 8:24:10 GMT 12
Cant help but think they have the commentators in the wrong positions. Mike is the better race caller. Stu would be better doing pit reports. Also need less interviews and more info from pits. I call wrong sorry Macgor. Stu is a amazing caller it’s hard to get info re results etc if you aren’t given them. We tried to do a livestream on the Saturday morning I had to sit down and work out 1 to 27 in each group. Rotorua the week before had every group 1 to 27 for you end of the night first thing in morning they had Repocharge Grids and Drivers for you. Honestly can’t be to hard. So I think calling out the commentary team for lack of info is a cop out |
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2021 9:22:13 GMT 12
Cant help but think they have the commentators in the wrong positions. Mike is the better race caller. Stu would be better doing pit reports. Also need less interviews and more info from pits. I call wrong sorry Macgor. Stu is a amazing caller it’s hard to get info re results etc if you aren’t given them. We tried to do a livestream on the Saturday morning I had to sit down and work out 1 to 27 in each group. Rotorua the week before had every group 1 to 27 for you end of the night first thing in morning they had Repocharge Grids and Drivers for you. Honestly can’t be to hard. So I think calling out the commentary team for lack of info is a cop out I wasnt calling them out for lack of results, just their talents might have been better applied by swapping roles. Mike is a good race caller and good at conveying the excitement of the racing and Stu has good knowledge of cars and drivers most suitable for relaying info from pits. |
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Post by Regan O'Brien on Jan 18, 2021 10:58:28 GMT 12
Why have the national anthem half-way thru the meeting - it should be prior to the start. We wanted to do it before the main event just like at the 240's they do it before the first heat. |
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Post by FlyingTheV on Jan 18, 2021 11:08:15 GMT 12
And the lass that sang the anthem did a darn fine job too. Where so often the renditions are cringe-worthy, I'd say that on this occasion , she was excellent. It was a classy touch.
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Post by mod46c on Jan 18, 2021 11:21:28 GMT 12
Higgins, it was the vastly experienced Wayne Hemi that raised this very question at the Rotorua drivers briefing. After a discussion, his question ultimately resulted in the white board that was used at the NZ Superstock Championship and arguably should have been used at Meeanee as well. Barry B Frankly I don't see a problem, report to the scales unless waved on by an official. Or maybe call the required three to the scales over the radio prior to the pit gate opening. |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 18, 2021 11:38:32 GMT 12
Higgins, it was the vastly experienced Wayne Hemi that raised this very question at the Rotorua drivers briefing. After a discussion, his question ultimately resulted in the white board that was used at the NZ Superstock Championship and arguably should have been used at Meeanee as well. Barry B Frankly I don't see a problem, report to the scales unless waved on by an official. Or maybe call the required three to the scales over the radio prior to the pit gate opening. Well the problem is that nobody was waving anybody anywhere. You're suggesting 30 overheating Stockcars should have all reported to the weigh bridge? |
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Post by mod46c on Jan 18, 2021 11:56:08 GMT 12
Frankly I don't see a problem, report to the scales unless waved on by an official. Or maybe call the required three to the scales over the radio prior to the pit gate opening. Well the problem is that nobody was waving anybody anywhere. You're suggesting 30 overheating Stockcars should have all reported to the weigh bridge? If competitors don't want to risk being disqualified they will report to the weight bridge, that's what this rule requires (if over heating cars is an issue the competitors need to adjust the rule book as required  ). |
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