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Post by graemeh on Apr 25, 2021 8:28:46 GMT 12
Heres how they finished after Night 1
1st - 320 Points - Kihikihi Kings
2nd - 295 Points- Palmerston North Panthers
3rd - 205 Points - Auckland Allstars
4th - 200 Points- Gisborne Giants
5th - 195 Points - Baypark Busters
6th - 190 Points - Stratford Scrappers
7th - 185 Points - Manawatu Mustangs
8th - 170 Points - Canterbury Glen Eagles
9th - 165 Points - Wanganui Warriors
10th - 110 Points - Hawkes Bay Hawke Eyes
11th - 100 Points - Rotorua Rebels
This means the following matchups will happen tomorrow night in the Quarterfinals!
-Kihikihi Kings (1) vs Canterbury Glen Eagles (😎
-Palmerston North Panthers (2) vs Manawatu Mustangs (7)
-Auckland Allstars (3) vs Stratford Scrappers (6)
-Gisborne Giants (4) vs Baypark Busters (5)
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Post by graemeh on Apr 25, 2021 8:31:05 GMT 12
There's 8 teams races on the Sunday night
R3 - 1st vs 8th
R4 - 2nd vs 7th
R5 - 3rd vs 6th
R6 - 4th vs 5th
R9 - semi final winner R3 vs winner R4
R10 - semi final winner R5 vs winner R6
R14 - loser R9 vs loser R10
R17 - winner R9 vs winner R10
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Post by Graeme Mead on Apr 25, 2021 9:14:00 GMT 12
How do the top 2 teams end up in a 2nd night draw like is currently there. Currently it's the 2 best preforming teams from night 1 potentially meet in a semi final..
Its so simple to fix..and its visible and sensible...
1 v 8 each race winner is a
4 v 5 = semi finalists
>>>> Final
3 v 6 each race winner is a
2 v 7 = semi finalists
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Post by sonic33 on Apr 25, 2021 9:24:08 GMT 12
How do the top 2 teams end up in a 2nd night draw like is currently there. Currently it's the 2 best preforming teams from night 1 potentially meet in a semi final.. Its so simple to fix..and its visible and sensible... 1 v 8 each race winner is a 4 v 5 = semi finalists >>>> Final 3 v 6 each race winner is a 2 v 7 = semi finalists Mentioned the exact same solution a few days back. Love that it is first across the line and that all 8 teams can win. Based on last night anything can happen, but would like the see some reward for being top two in qually. Potentially may have been better being a lower qualifer and being on the other side of the 2 nd night draw. Yes, I am well aware to win you need to beat top teams at sum stage. |
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Post by sonic33 on Apr 25, 2021 9:27:59 GMT 12
Was there a change in points post racing?
I thought at the track Whanganui was in and the Mustangs were out. Points were unofficial at the track and I did struggle to hear at times so I may have been wrong.
Actually scrap that, I see somewhere that a Stratford car was excluded (rightly or wrongly) so I guess that's where the extra points came from.
Shame for Wangas.
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Post by hbhornets on Apr 25, 2021 9:28:29 GMT 12
Yay p vs p again. Panthers gaints final.
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Post by screaminV8 on Apr 25, 2021 9:29:54 GMT 12
Has anyone got the confirmed points for each round? I can't quite work out the maths of the Stratford and Mustangs points, as it was looking like wanganui was ahead of mustangs going on provisional points.
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Post by hbhornets on Apr 25, 2021 9:41:09 GMT 12
Has anyone got the confirmed points for each round? I can't quite work out the maths of the Stratford and Mustangs points, as it was looking like wanganui was ahead of mustangs going on provisional points. an exclusion for contact after the flag. Manawutu put a protest in. However stratford gained points against hawkes bay when they chucked the yellows on to early. By the sounds of it. The car in question had a busted front and didnt have a choice. Kinda like the randle Tarrant incident when he go forcwd off the track and then smashed into peter fields who was on the infield. Tarrant got excluded from the race. That call didnt cost anybody anything. Unlucky Dylan Marshall. |
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Post by Tapped on Apr 25, 2021 10:54:30 GMT 12
Has anyone got the confirmed points for each round? I can't quite work out the maths of the Stratford and Mustangs points, as it was looking like wanganui was ahead of mustangs going on provisional points. an exclusion for contact after the flag. Manawutu put a protest in. However stratford gained points against hawkes bay when they chucked the yellows on to early. By the sounds of it. The car in question had a busted front and didnt have a choice. Kinda like the randle Tarrant incident when he go forcwd off the track and then smashed into peter fields who was on the infield. Tarrant got excluded from the race. That call didnt cost anybody anything. Unlucky Dylan Marshall. Didn't know that teams could protest in teams racing - have they changed the rule? |
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Post by graemeh on Apr 25, 2021 12:47:27 GMT 12
There's 8 teams races on the Sunday night R3 - 1st vs 8th R4 - 2nd vs 7th R5 - 3rd vs 6th R6 - 4th vs 5th R9 - semi final winner R3 vs winner R4 R10 - semi final winner R5 vs winner R6 R14 - loser R9 vs loser R10 R17 - winner R9 vs winner R10 The above match-ups were from the Programme of Events, BUT have noticed the write-up in the programme states "Winners from the teams races that were originally 1st and 4th go into the semi final and winners from the teams races that include 2nd and 3rd teams go into the semi-final". Kind of raises the possibility that the two top point scorers will maybe not be against each other if they win their quarter final, substitute "the semifinal" to "a semi-final" and it makes more sense, but ultimately we will see tonight and either way it should be a great night. |
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Post by Jason109 on Apr 25, 2021 14:03:31 GMT 12
Has anyone got the confirmed points for each round? I can't quite work out the maths of the Stratford and Mustangs points, as it was looking like wanganui was ahead of mustangs going on provisional points. an exclusion for contact after the flag. Manawutu put a protest in. However stratford gained points against hawkes bay when they chucked the yellows on to early. By the sounds of it. The car in question had a busted front and didnt have a choice. Kinda like the randle Tarrant incident when he go forcwd off the track and then smashed into peter fields who was on the infield. Tarrant got excluded from the race. That call didnt cost anybody anything. Unlucky Dylan Marshall. There was no protest from Manawatu. Anything that says there was is fake news |
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Post by BarryB on Apr 25, 2021 15:22:35 GMT 12
There's 8 teams races on the Sunday night R3 - 1st vs 8th R4 - 2nd vs 7th R5 - 3rd vs 6th R6 - 4th vs 5th R9 - semi final winner R3 vs winner R4 R10 - semi final winner R5 vs winner R6 R14 - loser R9 vs loser R10 R17 - winner R9 vs winner R10 The above match-ups were from the Programme of Events, BUT have noticed the write-up in the programme states "Winners from the teams races that were originally 1st and 4th go into the semi final and winners from the teams races that include 2nd and 3rd teams go into the semi-final". Kind of raises the possibility that the two top point scorers will maybe not be against each other if they win their quarter final, substitute "the semifinal" to "a semi-final" and it makes more sense, but ultimately we will see tonight and either way it should be a great night. Apparently this is sorted. It appears the write up is right and the program of events is wrong, at least according to a couple of drivers I've spoken to. Have had one short shower of rain at the track a little while ago, and maybe one or two more coming, but everything should be okay for a great second night to match the first. Good field of Mods too. |
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Post by BarryB on Apr 25, 2021 20:40:24 GMT 12
Well they didn't fix the slightly dodgy Night 2 semi final draw after all that, leaving ChCh to face the top 2 points scorers from night 1 back to back. Tough ask, beat the Kings but succumbed to the Panthers. Seems the drivers that informed me the glitch was fixed were incorrect.
Barry B
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Post by Tony on Apr 27, 2021 9:41:55 GMT 12
an exclusion for contact after the flag. Manawutu put a protest in. However stratford gained points against hawkes bay when they chucked the yellows on to early. By the sounds of it. The car in question had a busted front and didnt have a choice. Kinda like the randle Tarrant incident when he go forcwd off the track and then smashed into peter fields who was on the infield. Tarrant got excluded from the race. That call didnt cost anybody anything. Unlucky Dylan Marshall. There was no protest from Manawatu. Anything that says there was is fake news Well, the Warriors left the track after 11pm on Saturday night knowing they were in the Top Eight after beating Hawkes Bay. Sometime after midnight, they were told about the change of points from the Scrappers v Mustangs race, and that as a result, they were in ninth place. Given the race in question took place during Round One, and would have been completed before 9pm, possibly earlier, that's a long time gap between the official result being declared, then an amended result and points being posted. In the absence of any explanation from the promotion or SNZ, is it any wonder people are asking questions? To their credit, the Warriors management and drivers took the disappointment on the chin, fronted on Night Two, and put on a good show. I have no doubt however that it took the gloss off their weekend |
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Post by superstocker on Apr 27, 2021 15:30:41 GMT 12
There was no protest from Manawatu. Anything that says there was is fake news Well, the Warriors left the track after 11pm on Saturday night knowing they were in the Top Eight after beating Hawkes Bay. Sometime after midnight, they were told about the change of points from the Scrappers v Mustangs race, and that as a result, they were in ninth place. Given the race in question took place during Round One, and would have been completed before 9pm, possibly earlier, that's a long time gap between the official result being declared, then an amended result and points being posted. In the absence of any explanation from the promotion or SNZ, is it any wonder people are asking questions? To their credit, the Warriors management and drivers took the disappointment on the chin, fronted on Night Two, and put on a good show. I have no doubt however that it took the gloss off their weekend Scrappers v Mustangs was both teams seconds races that night |
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Post by hbhornets on Apr 27, 2021 19:55:47 GMT 12
Well, the Warriors left the track after 11pm on Saturday night knowing they were in the Top Eight after beating Hawkes Bay. Sometime after midnight, they were told about the change of points from the Scrappers v Mustangs race, and that as a result, they were in ninth place. Given the race in question took place during Round One, and would have been completed before 9pm, possibly earlier, that's a long time gap between the official result being declared, then an amended result and points being posted. In the absence of any explanation from the promotion or SNZ, is it any wonder people are asking questions? To their credit, the Warriors management and drivers took the disappointment on the chin, fronted on Night Two, and put on a good show. I have no doubt however that it took the gloss off their weekend Scrappers v Mustangs was both teams seconds races that night Wasnt going to say anything but have changed my mind. Thanks for sticking up for me tony much appreciated. Went to sleep warriors through woke up to mustrangs through. A check though facebook told me why it had occurred. I know there is no such thing as a protest in teams racing. And chose this wording as a provocative statement. As somebody more helpful than myself has pointed out. The difference between a protest and going to the ref and saying pkease look into this is in the wording. I do not know if that was the case for this through but still a good conversation point I wasnt aware of that race having question marks around it when i went to bed so to me was line of best fits. Could be also that the refs put it to one side. And saud we will look at this later. Something rotorua does very well is pass on that information. |
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