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Post by midway on Sept 6, 2021 13:16:43 GMT 12
Well iam buggered if i know , We havent had a case north of Tehana in the Northern province since this latest out break So what is the excuse for all you hobo,s south of our border that got it wrong /// Yes on sunday we crossed the Border to deliver fresh produce to the markets to keep those fit and healthy in jaffa street .. Having a covid poster is almost compulsory in business but only if you dont have a flip top phone ,like so many poor people do they sign the book Oh this will bring some fire out of the chimneys ,the card you get from vaccinations ,how valid is it ,has no photo on it ,or chip ,and can be so easy copied ,you can see it has come from the fish & chip girl down country ..
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Post by midway on Sept 6, 2021 13:50:02 GMT 12
On October 1st Auckland will become the only city on the planet with a population of over 1 million people being forced into a lockdown. How much longer the sheeple will keep going along with the ridiculous decision is anyones guess. Look at the full stdiums all around the world, 65ooo people at the All Blacks game, 60,000 at 26 stadiums across America for opening day of the NFL, 9.7 million people at the World Cup Soccer games in Europe in one day. Sydney and Melbourne both stop lockdown on the 1st Oct. Covid isnt going away. The world will have to deal with it and so will NZ Have you thought a condition of entry to these stadiums may be have your your covid vaccinations or/and clear swab test. Amazing how none medical folk have all the answers, seems more medical folk work out of DHB's than in it. Hopefully the green light will be lifted when the coast is clear but while we have idiots who won't self isolate then escape when put into MIQ and walk amongst Joe public while knowingly infected, like the real ovine species infected one's infect others. I'm in the over 70 group, work by choice not necessity and have good health, but mainly for wellbeing . Have had the 2 vaccinations and just had negative result for covid swab for peace of mind as cross the border daily for work. As a none qualified medical person I rely on their advice and guidance, not F/B and social media junkies. Example, social media followers say no scientific evidence to say covid real yet in next breath they say all those who have had the vaccination be dead in 5 yrs, where is that scientific evidence. Each to their own belief's, preaching it NO. You have to be more cautious than you think now Sir Terrorist attacks yes they only new the culprit since he was allowed into the country ,but our lapse laws that got filed away since the mosque attack collected dust Like the good lady says ...Be kind to each other .....
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Post by nakifans on Sept 7, 2021 4:41:03 GMT 12
Quote, Kerre McIvor, Sunday Hearald Terrorism Law hastily prepared after 911 attacks and were part of a raft of legislation that sat in a pile waiting for a review under the previous National Government. Review never happened. End of quote. Will covid spell or delay current speedway season. Hopefully vaccination rates get to the magic 80% target and xmas present a level 1 gift. Time to offer a carrot or bribe and get more on side to change it from a pandemic to an endemic like Singapore has.
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Post by midway on Sept 7, 2021 13:53:56 GMT 12
i suppose the Labour supporters have to get something back at National seen Judith ask where has the Covid fund has gone and we seem to be short on vaccine waiting for supplies .. Never mind we are back at level two ,well some of us are ,the gangsters will be right in there element ,a mask ,shades and a hoodie ,the poor Indian shop keeper will saying dont be in any hurry as ive run out of curry .. Yes i do feel sorry for those who are locked in level 4 ,and basically cant walk far from the front door and are Quiet as a mouse ,living in there multi million dollar house .. I see Mr Pickens with a new simulator in his home ,must be suffering with draw symptoms ,maybe the way to go ,speedway at home ...
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Post by beachboy on Sept 7, 2021 17:00:10 GMT 12
shades and a hoodie at level 2!! what you sniffing homeboy midi
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Post by magilla on Sept 8, 2021 15:16:03 GMT 12
I hope we get to level one pretty soon as I can't operate my side job under Level 2 and will have to rely on day job
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Post by banga82 on Sept 8, 2021 20:07:11 GMT 12
Ya know what? Watching the FSU v Notre Dame game that's on now makes me angry. Prob north 80k ppl in the stadium, most of whom would be fully vax'd. In the meantime in NZ... Crickets chirp an expensive song I know the haters are going to hate me for this but just cause stuff is open it doesn't mean u have to go to it, but all I ask is we have the choice. Yours sincerely Angry of Lower Hutt www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/2021/09/07/fsu-masks-florida-state-football-doak-notre-dame-seminoles-crowd/5760256001/Check out paragraph titled “Recent COVID 19 numbers” FSU is reporting the highest number of weekly positive cases since August 2020, things are just great in the US… Would be interesting to see what the positive case numbers would be in the next couple of weeks following that game!
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Post by midway on Sept 9, 2021 12:31:27 GMT 12
I hope we get to level one pretty soon as I can't operate my side job under Level 2 and will have to rely on day job The humorous side of myself would open itself to narrow down the possibility, of your side job under any level
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Post by Parrot on Sept 9, 2021 14:48:34 GMT 12
Was great watching the capacity maskless crowd at the worlds largest speedway venue Stadion Narodowy for the England vs Poland football game. On another note the 3rd best speedway country in the world behind Poland and NZ, Denmark has announced an end to all restrictions effective immediately. We meanwhile are stuck in lockdown.
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Post by Go Slideways on Sept 9, 2021 15:41:05 GMT 12
Was great watching the capacity maskless crowd at the worlds largest speedway venue Stadion Narodowy for the England vs Poland football game. On another note the 3rd best speedway country in the world behind Poland and NZ has announced an end to all restrictions effective immediately. We meanwhile are stuck in lockdown. I think to follow a failed model will only result in failure, just my opinion. England 6.07M cases 117K deaths coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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Post by banga82 on Sept 9, 2021 16:16:04 GMT 12
Was great watching the capacity maskless crowd at the worlds largest speedway venue Stadion Narodowy for the England vs Poland football game. On another note the 3rd best speedway country in the world behind Poland and NZ has announced an end to all restrictions effective immediately. We meanwhile are stuck in lockdown. You need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world will not be going back to “normal”, global pandemics change things- it’s too early to say whether our next normal will be better or worse but it will be different. You keep referring to other countries doing things differently, of course they are as very country has differing levels of infrastructure/healthcare service which results in different approachs and strategies for dealing with the pandemic. Part of the problem in NZ is that we haven’t really felt the full health effects of COVID - like it or not the model NZ has chosen to follow has resulted in one of the lowest deaths per capita in the western world. Our strategy has meant we haven’t had mass infections, we haven’t had mass deaths, we haven’t had our ICUs and hospitals overwhelmed and that situation has led to arm chair experts saying we have overreacted, COVID isn’t that bad, Jacinda is a communist blah blah blah. Reality is that this was the only viable strategy given the chronic under funding of healthcare by successive governments going back decades - go with elimination or deal with high volumes of deaths. The other aspect which is rarely ever mentioned by those captaining for their “freedoms” is the long term health impacts, ongoing respiratory issues seemingly going hand in hand with COVID infection in many cases. Sydney and Melbourne are really poor examples to hold up as something to follow, their inept leadership tried to persevere with half cocked lockdowns that went on for months (I worked in Melbourne up until borders closed in March last year and have plenty of work colleagues suffering through the past 18 months) then in and out of lockdowns which is far far worse than what we have experienced. Countries who are now removing restrictions while cases are increasing are essentially shrugging their shoulders and giving up and choosing to “live with COVID” - which is code for people are going to die. There are plenty more twists and turns to play out and I doubt that we will follow the lockdown strategy forever but it’s the logical approach with current vaccination numbers. Basically, take off your rose tinted glasses and really look into what’s going on in the countries that look like they are “normal” before having a tantrum and really consider whether you are happy with the real human cost those countries are now accepting, are you really happy to put others at risk so you can continue to enjoy your “freedoms”?
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Post by petrolfumes on Sept 9, 2021 16:38:53 GMT 12
There's an article saying that we could stay in level 2 until next year if so that's going to put almost all events on hold including speedway.Obviously I'm hoping it's not the case but if so then that's a huge downer right there. What is Speedway NZ doing to get approval to run meeting : Using Economic arguments ie Purchasing parts : Open air venues : Max spacing etc Asking for a 1000 + Friends
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 17:28:51 GMT 12
Was great watching the capacity maskless crowd at the worlds largest speedway venue Stadion Narodowy for the England vs Poland football game. On another note the 3rd best speedway country in the world behind Poland and NZ has announced an end to all restrictions effective immediately. We meanwhile are stuck in lockdown. You need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world will not be going back to “normal”, global pandemics change things- it’s too early to say whether our next normal will be better or worse but it will be different. You keep referring to other countries doing things differently, of course they are as very country has differing levels of infrastructure/healthcare service which results in different approachs and strategies for dealing with the pandemic. Part of the problem in NZ is that we haven’t really felt the full health effects of COVID - like it or not the model NZ has chosen to follow has resulted in one of the lowest deaths per capita in the western world. Our strategy has meant we haven’t had mass infections, we haven’t had mass deaths, we haven’t had our ICUs and hospitals overwhelmed and that situation has led to arm chair experts saying we have overreacted, COVID isn’t that bad, Jacinda is a communist blah blah blah. Reality is that this was the only viable strategy given the chronic under funding of healthcare by successive governments going back decades - go with elimination or deal with high volumes of deaths. The other aspect which is rarely ever mentioned by those captaining for their “freedoms” is the long term health impacts, ongoing respiratory issues seemingly going hand in hand with COVID infection in many cases. Sydney and Melbourne are really poor examples to hold up as something to follow, their inept leadership tried to persevere with half cocked lockdowns that went on for months (I worked in Melbourne up until borders closed in March last year and have plenty of work colleagues suffering through the past 18 months) then in and out of lockdowns which is far far worse than what we have experienced. Countries who are now removing restrictions while cases are increasing are essentially shrugging their shoulders and giving up and choosing to “live with COVID” - which is code for people are going to die. There are plenty more twists and turns to play out and I doubt that we will follow the lockdown strategy forever but it’s the logical approach with current vaccination numbers. Basically, take off your rose tinted glasses and really look into what’s going on in the countries that look like they are “normal” before having a tantrum and really consider whether you are happy with the real human cost those countries are now accepting, are you really happy to put others at risk so you can continue to enjoy your “freedoms”? We will never know the true human cost of our strategy. How many of the 37000 operations cancelled on the last 4 weeks will lead to early death, and will they be counted as covid victims? I honesty would rather let the effin virus get me than live in this Lockdown /half open /Lockdown /open/Lockdown environment where we can't plan anything, can't do so much and have the nation's healthcare compromised because of something that might happen. This isn't an anti govt rant but I'm compeatly over this thing that humanity is going to have to live with for generations to come. I'm bloody well ready to step off. This isn't living
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Post by banga82 on Sept 9, 2021 17:41:15 GMT 12
You need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world will not be going back to “normal”, global pandemics change things- it’s too early to say whether our next normal will be better or worse but it will be different. You keep referring to other countries doing things differently, of course they are as very country has differing levels of infrastructure/healthcare service which results in different approachs and strategies for dealing with the pandemic. Part of the problem in NZ is that we haven’t really felt the full health effects of COVID - like it or not the model NZ has chosen to follow has resulted in one of the lowest deaths per capita in the western world. Our strategy has meant we haven’t had mass infections, we haven’t had mass deaths, we haven’t had our ICUs and hospitals overwhelmed and that situation has led to arm chair experts saying we have overreacted, COVID isn’t that bad, Jacinda is a communist blah blah blah. Reality is that this was the only viable strategy given the chronic under funding of healthcare by successive governments going back decades - go with elimination or deal with high volumes of deaths. The other aspect which is rarely ever mentioned by those captaining for their “freedoms” is the long term health impacts, ongoing respiratory issues seemingly going hand in hand with COVID infection in many cases. Sydney and Melbourne are really poor examples to hold up as something to follow, their inept leadership tried to persevere with half cocked lockdowns that went on for months (I worked in Melbourne up until borders closed in March last year and have plenty of work colleagues suffering through the past 18 months) then in and out of lockdowns which is far far worse than what we have experienced. Countries who are now removing restrictions while cases are increasing are essentially shrugging their shoulders and giving up and choosing to “live with COVID” - which is code for people are going to die. There are plenty more twists and turns to play out and I doubt that we will follow the lockdown strategy forever but it’s the logical approach with current vaccination numbers. Basically, take off your rose tinted glasses and really look into what’s going on in the countries that look like they are “normal” before having a tantrum and really consider whether you are happy with the real human cost those countries are now accepting, are you really happy to put others at risk so you can continue to enjoy your “freedoms”? We will never know the true human cost of our strategy. How many of the 37000 operations cancelled on the last 4 weeks will lead to early death, and will they be counted as covid victims? I honesty would rather let the effin virus get me than live in this Lockdown /half open /Lockdown /open/Lockdown environment where we can't plan anything, can't do so much and have the nation's healthcare compromised because of something that might happen. This isn't an anti govt rant but I'm compeatly over this thing that humanity is going to have to live with for generations to come. I'm bloody well ready to step off. This isn't living Its all trade offs and no one has the 100% perfect answer right now, 37000 operations deferred/delayed vs who knows how many if we open things up? I’m no expert but I think there’s enough evidence from other countries that it wouldn’t be “might happen” scenario if things were freed up right at this point in time, it wouldn’t be pretty. You only need to look at the church cluster in Auckland to see how easily this delta variant is transmitted in an unvaccinated community.
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Post by tank11 on Sept 9, 2021 18:28:31 GMT 12
You need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world will not be going back to “normal”, global pandemics change things- it’s too early to say whether our next normal will be better or worse but it will be different. You keep referring to other countries doing things differently, of course they are as very country has differing levels of infrastructure/healthcare service which results in different approachs and strategies for dealing with the pandemic. Part of the problem in NZ is that we haven’t really felt the full health effects of COVID - like it or not the model NZ has chosen to follow has resulted in one of the lowest deaths per capita in the western world. Our strategy has meant we haven’t had mass infections, we haven’t had mass deaths, we haven’t had our ICUs and hospitals overwhelmed and that situation has led to arm chair experts saying we have overreacted, COVID isn’t that bad, Jacinda is a communist blah blah blah. Reality is that this was the only viable strategy given the chronic under funding of healthcare by successive governments going back decades - go with elimination or deal with high volumes of deaths. The other aspect which is rarely ever mentioned by those captaining for their “freedoms” is the long term health impacts, ongoing respiratory issues seemingly going hand in hand with COVID infection in many cases. Sydney and Melbourne are really poor examples to hold up as something to follow, their inept leadership tried to persevere with half cocked lockdowns that went on for months (I worked in Melbourne up until borders closed in March last year and have plenty of work colleagues suffering through the past 18 months) then in and out of lockdowns which is far far worse than what we have experienced. Countries who are now removing restrictions while cases are increasing are essentially shrugging their shoulders and giving up and choosing to “live with COVID” - which is code for people are going to die. There are plenty more twists and turns to play out and I doubt that we will follow the lockdown strategy forever but it’s the logical approach with current vaccination numbers. Basically, take off your rose tinted glasses and really look into what’s going on in the countries that look like they are “normal” before having a tantrum and really consider whether you are happy with the real human cost those countries are now accepting, are you really happy to put others at risk so you can continue to enjoy your “freedoms”? We will never know the true human cost of our strategy. How many of the 37000 operations cancelled on the last 4 weeks will lead to early death, and will they be counted as covid victims? I honesty would rather let the effin virus get me than live in this Lockdown /half open /Lockdown /open/Lockdown environment where we can't plan anything, can't do so much and have the nation's healthcare compromised because of something that might happen. This isn't an anti govt rant but I'm compeatly over this thing that humanity is going to have to live with for generations to come. I'm bloody well ready to step off. This isn't living I thought you had a little bit more back bone that that Rammers. Step off where? Of course this is "living" Not too many years ago, youngsters where going of to war, that wasn't living, that was surviving. Each major lockdown is cost me about $15/wk and I'm ready to go through as many as we have to, if it means people can have a better existence latter. As far as I know, NO urgent surgeries are being delayed or stopped. Anyone involved in a motor accident needing surgery, is getting it. The people attacked in Auckland got their surgery, or do you think they healed themselves?
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Post by magilla on Sept 10, 2021 9:46:17 GMT 12
I’m no expert but I think there’s enough evidence from other countries that it wouldn’t be “might happen” scenario if things were freed up right at this point in time, it wouldn’t be pretty. You only need to look at the church cluster in Auckland to see how easily this delta variant is transmitted in an unvaccinated community. which is why until there is a Level 0 all church meetings should be banned
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Post by midway on Sept 10, 2021 12:47:10 GMT 12
Gosh how does that weigh up when you are allowed to have gatherings of 50 people inside and 100 out side under level 2 ,the effects of covid -19 under level 4 are starting to take notice ,church or otherwise ,you could be at a practice meeting at speedway Magilla with smiles on your face . I think Butcher shops should be able to trade under level 4 like the dairies ,why should the supermarkets have a monopoly . Essential services certainly needs a major overhaul the un fairness leaves alot to be desired by the government ..
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Post by petrolfumes on Sept 10, 2021 17:20:22 GMT 12
Gosh how does that weigh up when you are allowed to have gatherings of 50 people inside and 100 out side under level 2 ,the effects of covid -19 under level 4 are starting to take notice ,church or otherwise ,you could be at a practice meeting at speedway Magilla with smiles on your face . I think Butcher shops should be able to trade under level 4 like the dairies ,why should the supermarkets have a monopoly . Essential services certainly needs a major overhaul the un fairness leaves alot to be desired by the government .. Kmart Rotorua 200 people max Inside :: but look at the checkouts in the middle of the shop :Not 2 metres apart
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Post by midway on Sept 10, 2021 22:13:24 GMT 12
Gosh how does that weigh up when you are allowed to have gatherings of 50 people inside and 100 out side under level 2 ,the effects of covid -19 under level 4 are starting to take notice ,church or otherwise ,you could be at a practice meeting at speedway Magilla with smiles on your face . I think Butcher shops should be able to trade under level 4 like the dairies ,why should the supermarkets have a monopoly . Essential services certainly needs a major overhaul the un fairness leaves alot to be desired by the government .. Kmart Rotorua 200 people max Inside :: but look at the checkouts in the middle of the shop :Not 2 metres apart That was in response to questions ask and reported in our local paper over Tangi,s and other gatherings .which came your wise friend and DR Bloomfield .. I see Countdown and Pakn save in Whangarei restrict shoppers at the door ,best to shop on line and go to the back door for pick up .. It also was reported in the debating chamber of the council of chiefs ,that lamb chops and his merry followers have borrowed another 41 billion dollars on top of the exhausted amount 50 billion that was borrowed for covid 19 last august ,so that leaves every man ,woman ,and child a repayment of only 147,000 ,each to pay back ...It was noted that all the money spent was not directed to only Covid
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Post by Go Slideways on Sept 10, 2021 22:36:45 GMT 12
My wife always orders our groceries online even before covid, eezy as, just turn up and pick up, no extra charge at Countdown.
PS: I hate shopping.
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