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Post by BarryB on Oct 5, 2021 23:05:15 GMT 12
I can see my vaccination status in the my health app on my phone, although that is private information of course Yes, they're going to be linking to the website initially, then next year an app once that's built, and a QR code which is your NHI number which when scanned with their scanning gadget apparently just a green tick and your name pops up. The name so they can check that information against the ticket you are carrying that will also have your name on it. That's how it worked for a 50,000 strong concert I went to in January this year at least, but each ticket was named so they could use that for contact tracing purposes. If one person purchased 10 tickets through their account they had to provide the names of the ten people who were going, and each person had to provide personal identification at the gate. That will all streamlined somewhat this summer with the new tools, but I still don't know how they will do speedway, as generally everybody does not purchase their speedway tickets six months in advance except for Teams Champs. It sounds like we might still have to provide other identification to prove the phone we are carrying is actually ours by matching ourselves up with the NHI details. Barry B
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Post by BarryB on Oct 5, 2021 23:20:28 GMT 12
That,s me out. . There are a few things overlooked to being vaccinated How many have reacted to it after the first jab ,we know of several in a engineering workshop And then there is those that cant have injections ,no mention of a oral vaccine .. It is alright for the circus to say yes a passport to get in to venues ,are they going to have your photo on ? I honestly think if you roll up they are more interested in taking your money at the gate ,than a passport , You can have the required flu jabs as a preventative ,but they are not the golden bullet . Some farmers dont wish to comply either ,but they still empty the vat They will have to be extremely vigilant midway, because if speedway get caught trying to bypass the mandated systems they have to put on place to operate, that will be the end of speedway, at that particular venue at least. I can bet if you turn up with cash and no vaccination certificate, you won't be getting in. And no, the 'passport' will not have your photo on it. You will have to provide that separately. There is an oral vaccine in testing, but it's more an additional tool than a replacement to the Pfizer jab. Australia has pre-purchased some, New Zealand hasn't. Yet. The Flu jab won't even get you a drink in the car park, let alone entry to a speedway event. Farmers that don't wish to comply won't be attending any speedway meetings this summer. It was made quite clear at 1pm today; ALL concerts, festivals or major sporting events will definitely require every attendee to be fully vaccinated this coming summer. No exceptions. Even larger restaurants will have the same policy by the sounds of things, although they still discussing with restaurant owners there. Even some smaller venues that could operate without the vaccine passports have said the the government that they are still going to require them to enter. Who knows what else might be added to the list. What we do know is that speedway will be classified a 'major sporting event', thus must comply with all respective rules. Auckland''s biggest problem is still those pesky boundaries. Barry B
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Post by midway on Oct 5, 2021 23:40:22 GMT 12
You can all the rules in the world But they get broken which is a known fact .. And that is why Covid made its way back ,its here to stay and the questions will be continued for a answer ..
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Post by nakifans on Oct 6, 2021 3:31:01 GMT 12
A mass gathering is a mass gathering, can't have one rule for church groups, gangs or what ever then say lets have different rules for working class sports events. The virus spreads at will with mass gatherings as has been seen by some of the current outbreaks. Every one wants freedom, given a simple free chance and all hell breaks loose. Don't blame the Health Dept for current situation blame social media, people seem to take more notice of fruit lose individuals theories on there than professional medical advice. I've had both jabs back in June, no side effects what so ever. I've known people who said the second jab gives you side effects and hence when they have had the 2nd jab they are off work for few days suspossely ill, sociological or not?. We have a choice, vaccinate and get freedom card , if choose to not vaccinate that's your choice but don't whinge when your social life's outings get limited, you made the choice. Need app on ph, password to get in. Your photo, QR code and other relative details pop up, scan in and enjoy the night.
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Post by mod46c on Oct 6, 2021 6:06:32 GMT 12
I can see my vaccination status in the my health app on my phone, although that is private information of course Yes, they're going to be linking to the website initially, then next year an app once that's built, and a QR code which is your NHI number which when scanned with their scanning gadget apparently just a green tick and your name pops up. The name so they can check that information against the ticket you are carrying that will also have your name on it. That's how it worked for a 50,000 strong concert I went to in January this year at least, but each ticket was named so they could use that for contact tracing purposes. If one person purchased 10 tickets through their account they had to provide the names of the ten people who were going, and each person had to provide personal identification at the gate. That will all streamlined somewhat this summer with the new tools, but I still don't know how they will do speedway, as generally everybody does not purchase their speedway tickets six months in advance except for Teams Champs. It sounds like we might still have to provide other identification to prove the phone we are carrying is actually ours by matching ourselves up with the NHI details. Barry B The database exists and has done so for sometime, it hardly takes Nostradamus to work out something would be needed at some point, so why is this system not available now?
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Post by hbhornets on Oct 6, 2021 8:58:25 GMT 12
A mass gathering is a mass gathering, can't have one rule for church groups, gangs or what ever then say lets have different rules for working class sports events. The virus spreads at will with mass gatherings as has been seen by some of the current outbreaks. Every one wants freedom, given a simple free chance and all hell breaks loose. Don't blame the Health Dept for current situation blame social media, people seem to take more notice of fruit lose individuals theories on there than professional medical advice. I've had both jabs back in June, no side effects what so ever. I've known people who said the second jab gives you side effects and hence when they have had the 2nd jab they are off work for few days suspossely ill, sociological or not?. We have a choice, vaccinate and get freedom card , if choose to not vaccinate that's your choice but don't whinge when your social life's outings get limited, you made the choice. Need app on ph, password to get in. Your photo, QR code and other relative details pop up, scan in and enjoy the night. This post is a hard read. I will have two jabs. But will not download some vaccine app. Looks like my days of speedway are over.
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Post by sadfish on Oct 6, 2021 9:26:43 GMT 12
If you dont want the jab,then hide away under your bed and look at the world from your phone as no one will get into any where without a card soon, the government cant legislate against idiots, how many times do they have to tell the people, stop getting information from social media and listen to the health professional's they are saying the same thing all over the world get the jab
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Post by midway on Oct 6, 2021 11:37:04 GMT 12
If you dont want the jab,then hide away under your bed and look at the world from your phone as no one will get into any where without a card soon, the government cant legislate against idiots, how many times do they have to tell the people, stop getting information from social media and listen to the health professional's they are saying the same thing all over the world get the jab Oh the prime minister Cindy and her circus says mask up ,so down at the local dairy out comes people with there 4n20 pies no mask on entry or exit ,Passports will be like careless days in the Muldoon era all motorists had to comply ,that soon become a thing of the past ,people make up there own minds regardless and with the poverty in this country and businesses going broke left right and centre ,the sale of goods will continue Buy a packet of smokes they have a photo on the dangers of smoking no passport required ,and yet Cancer is by far the biggest disease that people die of each week in Nz ..
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Post by BarryB on Oct 6, 2021 14:22:09 GMT 12
I will have two jabs. But will not download some vaccine app. Looks like my days of speedway are over. That seems an extremely self-defeating attitude to take, especially if you're going to actually be vaccinated, but that is completely your call. Barry B
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Post by BarryB on Oct 6, 2021 14:35:36 GMT 12
I think describing it as a 'game changer' maybe getting a little 'over excited'. Wth every second row blocked off, and each spectator sitting with two empty seats between them, it'll still reduce their 19,000 seat capacity down to a very small % of that. Every second row out reduces capacity from 19,000 to 9,500. Take out two-thirds of those and you're left with 3,166 out of 19,000 seats (16.6% capacity). It may just be all too difficult to police as well, but it will be interesting what HB Rugby decide to do with the new stadium allowance. Barry B
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Post by tony27 on Oct 6, 2021 15:26:37 GMT 12
who would have their NHI number? It appears on any blood test form, any prescription receipt. Unfortunately I've known mine off by heart for a number of years. Barry B So have I after spending 12 days in hospital with a punctured lung & broken femur, having your x-ray folder with you every day for a week or so when you head off for x-rays imprints the number quite well
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Post by magilla on Oct 6, 2021 16:32:39 GMT 12
who would have their NHI number? Majority of those had letter in the mail,regard vaccine shots. with there NHI number attached. never got a letter, I had a txt message.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 19:10:53 GMT 12
No doubt as soon as our leaders have pushed the "two dose to be fully vaccinated" propaganda as far as they can they will immediately swing into the next phase of obeying Pfizer's "keep the cash flowing our way" - COVID-19 BOOSTER SHOTS.Looks like the jab is only effective for around 6 months, so get mentally prepared to see a strong push for either ongoing biannual or even quarterly jabs. Some countries like Israel are moving from a third to fourth shot already.
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Post by midway on Oct 6, 2021 19:43:12 GMT 12
No doubt as soon as our leaders have pushed the "two dose to be fully vaccinated" propaganda as far as they can they will immediately swing into the next phase of obeying Pfizer's "keep the cash flowing our way" - COVID-19 BOOSTER SHOTS.Looks like the jab is only effective for around 6 months, so get mentally prepared to see a strong push for either ongoing biannual or even quarterly jabs. Some countries like Israel are moving from a third to fourth shot already. Israel has a reputation for being ,or starting a war ,i guess they need there troops fit to fight the country battles they encounter along the gaza strip .. The only quarterly jabs we need in this country is a reminder to the circus trying to run it ,but then we wont need much in the way we travel with the closing of the countries oil refinery .
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Post by wildcatsfan on Oct 6, 2021 20:52:26 GMT 12
It amazes me reading so many of the posts in this thread, one question just begs to be asked! How can anyone say that getting the jab will bring freedom? We have a government who is increasingly mandating what we citizens can and cannot do, where we can and cannot go and all the other conditions they deem necessary as we go along. That is not freedom, at least to my understanding of the word. This is a government putting the nations peoples into bondage! Not freedom, but bondage. Sadly, by far the vast majority of New Zealanders can't seem to see what is really happening here. To every action the government has taken, is taking and will take from here on will unquestionably bring long term, equal to and opposite reactions. The propaganda machinery of this government has blinded most to the reality that our freedoms are being eroded and will eventually be gone. Everything you do will be done in bondage, compliance and servitude. To be jabbed or not to be jabbed is not the question! The real question is do we want freedom, or slavery. How quickly we have forgotten the late 1930's when a certain nation went down this very same path and the vast majority of Germans fell for the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Wake up New Zealanders, it's happening to you right now. Freedom??? I don't think so.
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Post by banga82 on Oct 6, 2021 21:18:02 GMT 12
It amazes me reading so many of the posts in this thread, one question just begs to be asked! How can anyone say that getting the jab will bring freedom? We have a government who is increasingly mandating what we citizens can and cannot do, where we can and cannot go and all the other conditions they deem necessary as we go along. That is not freedom, at least to my understanding of the word. This is a government putting the nations peoples into bondage! Not freedom, but bondage. Sadly, by far the vast majority of New Zealanders can't seem to see what is really happening here. To every action the government has taken, is taking and will take from here on will unquestionably bring long term, equal to and opposite reactions. The propaganda machinery of this government has blinded most to the reality that our freedoms are being eroded and will eventually be gone. Everything you do will be done in bondage, compliance and servitude. To be jabbed or not to be jabbed is not the question! The real question is do we want freedom, or slavery. How quickly we have forgotten the late 1930's when a certain nation went down this very same path and the vast majority of Germans fell for the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Wake up New Zealanders, it's happening to you right now. Freedom??? I don't think so. I thought the tin hat brigade mandated that if people are told to wake up it must be in capital letters? Generally, anyone who insights Godwin’s law or tells people to wake up doesn’t have a relevant point to make. Don’t have to look to far to see people who have had a far rougher time than us, pretty sure anyone one in Melbourne who has been locked down for 240+ days would much rather have been here during that period…
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Post by hbhornets on Oct 6, 2021 21:28:20 GMT 12
It amazes me reading so many of the posts in this thread, one question just begs to be asked! How can anyone say that getting the jab will bring freedom? We have a government who is increasingly mandating what we citizens can and cannot do, where we can and cannot go and all the other conditions they deem necessary as we go along. That is not freedom, at least to my understanding of the word. This is a government putting the nations peoples into bondage! Not freedom, but bondage. Sadly, by far the vast majority of New Zealanders can't seem to see what is really happening here. To every action the government has taken, is taking and will take from here on will unquestionably bring long term, equal to and opposite reactions. The propaganda machinery of this government has blinded most to the reality that our freedoms are being eroded and will eventually be gone. Everything you do will be done in bondage, compliance and servitude. To be jabbed or not to be jabbed is not the question! The real question is do we want freedom, or slavery. How quickly we have forgotten the late 1930's when a certain nation went down this very same path and the vast majority of Germans fell for the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Wake up New Zealanders, it's happening to you right now. Freedom??? I don't think so. We never had freedoms to begin with. We are told what we can and can't do. At the same time being told we are free to do as we please. Big difference between us and Germany from the 1930s. Hilter sole purpose was hate when he came to power. Jacindas was one of love and peace. Wolnt go.into a political opinion piece. But its something I feel strongly about.
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Post by mod46c on Oct 7, 2021 6:02:32 GMT 12
Majority of those had letter in the mail,regard vaccine shots. with there NHI number attached. never got a letter, I had a txt message. Never received a letter just a text You may want to talk to your quack, he's more likely to Know your NHI number than us
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Post by wildcatsfan on Oct 7, 2021 8:14:43 GMT 12
never got a letter, I had a txt message. Never received a letter just a text You may want to talk to your quack, he's more likely to Know your NHI number than us
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