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Post by epmurc on Jun 15, 2022 19:44:23 GMT 12
Give or take a few cents, diesel is now sitting at around $3.00 per litre and showing no signs of going any direction but further up. This means that a lot of guys are now going to be thinking long and hard about when and how far they will travel to race; sure enough there are some who won't really be too worried but I'd say plenty are going to start leaving the car in the shed rather than travel to tracks around the country.
To put it into context, the cost of fuel to tow a Mod just from Auckland to Huntly and back, using a standard ute (Ranger, Hilux etc) will be around $120, over $200 for Rotorua, something like $350 for Stratford and well north of $500 for Wellington. Those sorts of costs for the sake of about 15 minutes of racing are starting to become hard to justify, especially given the amount of travel money tracks are paying (and I can't really see that increasing much).
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Post by turnright on Jun 15, 2022 20:34:00 GMT 12
Tend to agree with your comments, end of this season just gone it cost us about $300 return from Cambridge to meeanee, we did 2 trips 2 weekends in a row and that is starting to get out the gate price wise when on wages. We will definitely as you say be starting to really think about when and where we travel next season. Home to waikaraka and back is about $180 in diesel, home to huntly and back is about $75, all of the above plus road users of course. What's this travel money you talk of, it's pretty much non existent now days, I don't have any issues with that but it definitely would help
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Post by midway on Jun 15, 2022 20:47:27 GMT 12
ron Salter,is a sponsor over at your back yard ,
he might have some cheap giveaways seen he is a big cog in the transportation of the oil industry
And iam sure your drinking buddie Danny would be able to come up with a few tricks being an Irishman .
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Post by wildcatsfan on Jun 15, 2022 21:14:54 GMT 12
This all revolves around the issue of reducing the size of the carbon footprint, reducing carbon emissions as driven by the government under the direction of The World Economic Forum. This is not a conspiracy theory, it's the truth. Zero carbon emissions = no petrol or diesel powered vehicles on the roads.
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jun 16, 2022 6:04:07 GMT 12
I suppose it comes down to how much passion you have to race and travel,spectator wise as well.One good thing for the Modifieds up Auckland way the NZ Champs are in Huntly.
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Post by tonyr on Jun 16, 2022 8:36:37 GMT 12
I suppose it comes down to how much passion you have to race and travel,spectator wise as well.One good thing for the Modifieds up Auckland way the NZ Champs are in Huntly. Yes, spectator wise the admission price often pales into insignificance compared to the travel cost even just travelling across Auckland 😒 |
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Post by The Observer on Jun 16, 2022 10:04:16 GMT 12
Car pooling - 5 keen speedway people in a Ute split the gas
Anyone remember the petrol crisis in the 70s/80? Some of you will 🤦🏻♂️😂
Multi car tow rigs will be desirable for some
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Post by Helios on Jun 16, 2022 16:30:27 GMT 12
Just pleased I don't own a boat...
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Post by midway on Jun 16, 2022 17:58:07 GMT 12
It wasn,t all that long ago the nelson tigers came to the teams nationals on a car transporter.
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Post by banga82 on Jun 16, 2022 21:23:25 GMT 12
This all revolves around the issue of reducing the size of the carbon footprint, reducing carbon emissions as driven by the government under the direction of The World Economic Forum. This is not a conspiracy theory, it's the truth. Zero carbon emissions = no petrol or diesel powered vehicles on the roads. While there is an obvious change in tact to reduce emissions in the future the bigger issue is the war in Ukraine. As a result, you have sanctions implemented against against Russia - one of the largest oil producers in the world which severely constrains supply. War makes people nervous so you have the OPEC nations wanting to hold supply while the war evolves rather than releasing additional stocks/supply to make up the shortfall from Russia. Constrained supply equals more demand and increases cost so you have the price of crude floating around the highest it’s been ever (?). That reluctance to supply also seems to be impacting diesel more than petrol which and the price is closing between diesel and 91 even though diesel is cheaper to refine than petrol. And all of this is coming at a time when world supply lines haven’t really recovered from COVID induced issues. Things aren’t going to get any better for awhile. |
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Post by mod46c on Jun 17, 2022 9:59:08 GMT 12
Give or take a few cents, diesel is now sitting at around $3.00 per litre and showing no signs of going any direction but further up. This means that a lot of guys are now going to be thinking long and hard about when and how far they will travel to race; sure enough there are some who won't really be too worried but I'd say plenty are going to start leaving the car in the shed rather than travel to tracks around the country. To put it into context, the cost of fuel to tow a Mod just from Auckland to Huntly and back, using a standard ute (Ranger, Hilux etc) will be around $120, over $200 for Rotorua, something like $350 for Stratford and well north of $500 for Wellington. Those sorts of costs for the sake of about 15 minutes of racing are starting to become hard to justify, especially given the amount of travel money tracks are paying (and I can't really see that increasing much). Better get your name down for one of those new F150 lightning (I guess there will be a ranger version soonish) www.msn.com/en-nz/lifestyle/shopping/watch-this-2022-ford-f-150-lightning-platinum-70-mph-range-test/ar-AAYpiNo?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=63795cb1b6dc444efe21787cd4ee52fc&rc=1 |
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Post by daleh on Jun 17, 2022 22:23:08 GMT 12
Been asking same question to Ford; Not sure how will go towing 3T race trailer. Based in upper NI, 80% of race nights would be doable; and well having to stop in Taupo for a fast charge doesn't sound that bad; nor am I young enough these days to drive from Wellington back to the tron after racing.. |
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Post by mod46c on Jun 20, 2022 7:04:28 GMT 12
Been asking same question to Ford; Not sure how will go towing 3T race trailer. Based in upper NI, 80% of race nights would be doable; and well having to stop in Taupo for a fast charge doesn't sound that bad; nor am I young enough these days to drive from Wellington back to the tron after racing.. Electric pickups will perform better than gas version including towing, just the question of range/speed of recharge. |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Jun 20, 2022 7:26:57 GMT 12
Drove past a petrol station this morning,$3.45 a litre for 95,$3.25 a litre for 91, electric cars are looking better every day 😜
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Post by petrolfumes on Jun 20, 2022 7:48:35 GMT 12
Drove past a petrol station this morning,$3.45 a litre for 95,$3.25 a litre for 91, electric cars are looking better every day 😜 Wait till the Road users go on Electric to pay for the power grid upgrades before you decide |
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Post by accobra on Jun 20, 2022 8:23:53 GMT 12
Drove past a petrol station this morning,$3.45 a litre for 95,$3.25 a litre for 91, electric cars are looking better every day 😜 Yep petrol prices are creeping up. Electric look attractive until batteries need replacing. Then watch them all moan. |
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Post by mod46c on Jun 20, 2022 9:56:32 GMT 12
Drove past a petrol station this morning,$3.45 a litre for 95,$3.25 a litre for 91, electric cars are looking better every day 😜 Yep petrol prices are creeping up. Electric look attractive until batteries need replacing. Then watch them all moan. I'm no EV evangelist, but the need to replace battery looks a non-story to me. When I look at the specs for recent EV's, battery life looks to be longer than the life of a typical ICE car, so by time the rest of us start buying these things the battery will out last the car. The disposal of the battery at end of life looks to be a much bigger issue to me. and 95 is 2.96 here  |
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Post by Helios on Jun 20, 2022 11:14:00 GMT 12
With you there, regarding the recycling/disposal of dead batteries. And don't go believing that we'll be living in a world of free public chargers, either - trickle feed maybe, but definitely not "fast" ones. Also, just how much more power generation capacity will be needed to supply all these EV's, and how many of the local distribution (including household) networks will prove inadequate once everyone's forced to join the "electric revolution"?
So many questions, so few credible answers...
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Post by tonyr on Jun 20, 2022 11:50:16 GMT 12
And those of us who live in apartments have no home charging options, yet at least in Auckland the govt is pressing for higher density housing. I guess they want me to cycle to all the NI tracks I support 😁
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Post by midway on Jun 20, 2022 14:39:15 GMT 12
Sadly as it seems with the cost of inflation we are heading for a recession
Buying electric cars isnt going to solve much at all,only keep the greens happy
Every one will suffer one way or another.
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