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Post by davcarm on Jan 25, 2009 11:13:06 GMT 12
Te Marua is my home track and I've voiced concerns over time taken to run a meeting in the past, but in terms of being a 'family speedway' I'd have to say it has a lot of positives over a lot of others I've been to.
Total alcohol ban.
kids amusements (bouncy castle etc, just glad I don't have young kids to take around to it)
Snow cones etc
In terms of the alcohol ban I've gotta congratulate the security guys for taking action for a group of young guys who 'smuggled' in some booze in bladders etc last night. They were escorted off the premises and the reaction of parents with young kids in the area it was positive and the group had only been there for 10 mins.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 11:32:02 GMT 12
phil b why dont you become track promoter, tractor driver. track preparer, in fact why dont you run it your self.....you and the other negative vibes on this post ..and see how good you are!!!!! i mean it  to brian mcphee and commitee i salute you!!!! superstock. I've mentioned it before on other threads and I'll say it again - Brian McPhee does a great job of preparing the track! We all have strengths and weaknesses and clearly one of Brian's strengths is the track prep in addition to supplying some of his machinery to do it. Other members to good work too. But thats not what this topic is about. |
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Post by Wiseowl on Jan 25, 2009 11:40:08 GMT 12
Hi again Wiseowl. I suspect that you have enough wisdom to already know the answers to your questions but just like an entertaining stockcar race profits from having a stirrer in the race, thanks for filling that role by stirring the pot here on this thread. There’s a saying… …EXPECTATIONS ARE PREMEDITATED RESENTMENTS… …so when it comes to my local I have learned from previous disappointments over the years to tone down my expectations. On a POOR-AVERAGE-GOOD-FANTASTIC scale Te Maura’s show occasionally makes it up to good. It’s s a club track run for members. Fans are welcome to attend the show, but if you don’t like it the you can shove your criticism up your…. This is an amateur not professional set up compared to some other tracks. I’m not a big fan of mediocrity. Often I’ve contemplated what could been done to change the clubs culture and lift Te Maura up to the big 3’s level. Sadly the only solution I can see at this stage is to send in a hit squad heavily armed with machine guns and hand grenades with instructions to take out the current management structure and make sure there no survivors. Then of course you need to make sure you have a new enthusiastic and competent promoter prepared to work at a poorly located track for peanuts, along with a new president, committee and a track prep team and heavy machinery as well. Easier said than done. Ramjam can stay though! Last night I attended the NZ Stockcar Champs finals not expecting to get an elevated seat up in the run down grandstand where I usually sit, to expect the usual delays in-between the races, to prepare for irritating cigarette smoke occasionally drifting in my direction, and of course to get home late. At the end of the night I wasn’t disappointed. Even though there were other issues like waiting half an hour for the track crew to fix the broken railway posts – good job by mintie and Ramjam with the poster banner thing, and several kids lollies scrambles to help kill the delay. Overall the club put on a relatively good show and I was well pleased with my decision to attend, all helped along by getting my attitude adjusted to start with. I'll be expecting a bit more professionalism from PN tonight though! ? Good post Phil B I have to say that as much as my post seemed negative to your local... I can report that my comments have been noted by the powers at be... and I have had positive responses from them too. Good Stuff At the end of the day.. I have watched many meetings as a paying customer & reckon I have some idea what people expect from a meeting. As I am now only a professional speedway watcher.. the main concern for me nowadays is the future of this great sport. I am not into personality clashes, as human nature tends to cloud many of the Important issues that Speedway needs to solve All Sports need people giving honest opinions about issues...& some people take them personally...The truth hurts so to speak.....thats Life Cheers Wiseowl |
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Post by superstock on Jan 25, 2009 11:41:43 GMT 12
yes it is...what else is it -its a commitee run track.....again as i said and now you are saying it ...to brian mcphee (who has done so much at i would say personal cost) i salute you ...the track has never looked so good ...why cant everbody just enjoy so what if you got home half an hour late ..does it matter...and anyway why would you take young children say under 5 ...thats my rant over thak you temarua speedway for another great night  |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 25, 2009 11:51:05 GMT 12
Hi again Wiseowl. I suspect that you have enough wisdom to already know the answers to your questions but just like an entertaining stockcar race profits from having a stirrer in the race, thanks for filling that role by stirring the pot here on this thread. There’s a saying… …EXPECTATIONS ARE PREMEDITATED RESENTMENTS… …so when it comes to my local I have learned from previous disappointments over the years to tone down my expectations. On a POOR-AVERAGE-GOOD-FANTASTIC scale Te Maura’s show occasionally makes it up to good. It’s s a club track run for members. Fans are welcome to attend the show, but if you don’t like it the you can shove your criticism up your…. This is an amateur not professional set up compared to some other tracks. I’m not a big fan of mediocrity. Often I’ve contemplated what could been done to change the clubs culture and lift Te Maura up to the big 3’s level. Sadly the only solution I can see at this stage is to send in a hit squad heavily armed with machine guns and hand grenades with instructions to take out the current management structure and make sure there no survivors. Then of course you need to make sure you have a new enthusiastic and competent promoter prepared to work at a poorly located track for peanuts, along with a new president, committee and a track prep team and heavy machinery as well. Easier said than done. Ramjam can stay though! Last night I attended the NZ Stockcar Champs finals not expecting to get an elevated seat up in the run down grandstand where I usually sit, to expect the usual delays in-between the races, to prepare for irritating cigarette smoke occasionally drifting in my direction, and of course to get home late. At the end of the night I wasn’t disappointed. Even though there were other issues like waiting half an hour for the track crew to fix the broken railway posts – good job by mintie and Ramjam with the poster banner thing, and several kids lollies scrambles to help kill the delay. Overall the club put on a relatively good show and I was well pleased with my decision to attend, all helped along by getting my attitude adjusted to start with. I'll be expecting a bit more professionalism from PN tonight though! Finally to Abbo and all other small-minded ministock fans/parents - listen up! Last night for the first time one of the ministock races almost reached the mildly entertaining rank on my entertainment barometer. How about that? agree with the above though i feel sorry for the stockcar boys in the consolations especially the ones that travelled two races cut short another where they were meant to be combined but because of a break down in communication the other group remained in the pits then their last all in got canned yet they had all 3 Saloon races and 2 ministock races it was a STOCKCAR meeting!! the fence got broken 3 times that happens when you have the likes of Pete Barry,Zac Thompson,Ron Tye and others in attendance. The delays between the races most of the time was way too long, the commentary team drove me nuts!, no honestly they were pretty good, but apart from that i agree with all of the above post,i had a pretty good night because the delays allowed me to get out and about to talk to people so it was a pretty relaxed meeting for me. After discussions with a Wgtn Superstock driver the Wildcats are still returning next season it will be done properly and the team WILL be competitive so Welly fans have more to look forward to and not just their fav Young Guns. Family atmosphere?certainly felt like it to me. |
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Post by chunkey on Jan 25, 2009 11:51:28 GMT 12
Love it Phill!, you have summed it up very well in your comments. Back ya 120%.
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Post by superstock on Jan 25, 2009 11:58:50 GMT 12
is phil that failed sprintcar driver with a beef against temarua  |
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Post by budgetmilk14 on Jan 25, 2009 14:40:28 GMT 12
I find welly speedway a good race track and yes with the meeting going over midnite ppl sayin that the staff weren't concerned about the time that it ran 2. well think again u did not hear Kevin (the promoter) yelling at the staff 2 hurry things along with fixing the railway irons, cars on dummy grid cutting out the minor races like mini stocks etc. yea it takes us longer 2 fix railway iron thn palmy but hey palmy charge more 2 enter events there at least $5 more thn welly so $5 for 100 ppl makes $500 more so thay get more money to make fixing things easier thn welly. I think it was a good 2 nites all round yea thay went over mid nite my 1st meeting i went 2 went over mid night and i went back 4 the 2nd nite coz i enjoy it. my nephews and cuzins go 2 sleep at speedway if thay get tired. chuck a blanket over thm and there fine
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Post by stockmad on Jan 25, 2009 18:12:59 GMT 12
i think welly is a good track sum meetings to go over time but the racing is allways full on
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Post by Lucas Injection (72w) on Jan 26, 2009 0:19:44 GMT 12
Great meeting, yeah it ran a bit late but speedway ain't mcdonalds so you don't always know what you're gonna get (at least the food tastes good though).
I wouldn't blow smoke in a childs face but the fresh air police have to question their own wisdom in attending an event that wafts track and tyre dust, leaded fuel fumes, oil and rubber smoke etc through there noses
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Post by fordfan on Jan 26, 2009 10:47:36 GMT 12
yes it is...what else is it -its a commitee run track.....again as i said and now you are saying it ...to brian mcphee (who has done so much at i would say personal cost) i salute you ...the track has never looked so good ...why cant everbody just enjoy so what if you got home half an hour late ..does it matter...and anyway why would you take young children say under 5 ...thats my rant over thak you temarua speedway for another great night My kids have been going to speedway since they were born. They are 4 & 8 now and both speedway mad. Thats why i take them. They love cheering on there favorite drivers and watching them win. I can see now what sport they will be taking up when old enough and surely thats not a bad thing. Only downside i can see is i wont be driving my stocky for long before im been turffed out of the drivers seat ;D ;D |
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Post by Wiseowl on Jan 26, 2009 11:42:12 GMT 12
Great meeting, yeah it ran a bit late but speedway ain't mcdonalds so you don't always know what you're gonna get (at least the food tastes good though). I wouldn't blow smoke in a childs face but the fresh air police have to question their own wisdom in attending an event that wafts track and tyre dust, leaded fuel fumes, oil and rubber smoke etc through there noses This reply is probably typical of the attitude of many in this Great Sport of ours.... .........But I would have thought the more you get through the gates paying money, no matter who, this would lead to ...etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.etc etc etc etc etc etc etc...... ...... Nah..... not really worth a reply is it.. BP or Shell or some other big corporate will probably go sponser another Sport  Cheers Wiseowl |
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Post by DTM1 on Jan 26, 2009 11:53:51 GMT 12
You're on the money Wiseowl.
Speedway as an entity will never move forward while mediocrity is accepted by the "loyal" fans,who can all be guaranteed at some point,to throw out the line "if you dont like it .......".
While mediocrity is accepted and in some cases fostered,the sport will continue to stay an unattractive option for the corporate marketing dollar.
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Post by k1w1taxi on Jan 26, 2009 15:37:57 GMT 12
I am seriously disappointed in the stupid and puerile reactions to Wiseowls original complaint by some in this thread.
So TM is a club run track, what has that to do with the problem? So are Huntly, Rotovegas and Stratford all of whom seem to be capable of running more efficient shows than Wgtn come the big events. And just because BP and PN are run by private promoters doesn't mean there are not things to learn from the way they run operations.
If this is such a regular problem when running big events at TM why not plan for it ans START earlier?
Big Kudos to TM though if theyare on top of the booze problem as far too many tracks seem to just allow people to wander around with booze in open sight.
Cheers
Lee
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Post by thewatcher on Jan 26, 2009 16:05:11 GMT 12
Allan Savell why havent you posted up how palmy ran late last night!!!.. and they only had around 46 cars!!!..
As for the powers to be yes we know it is your son..
so wiseowl.. if you are going to bag one track why not them all.. as did you bring up how hawkes bay ran late since you was there.. or any other meeting you have attened..
plus for 20 bucks i would say it was all value and gave drivers time to fix there cars instead of been rushed.
as Wellington do a great job on and off the track and when away we dont have what palmerston has and never will..
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Post by DTM1 on Jan 26, 2009 16:31:07 GMT 12
Allan Savell why havent you posted up how palmy ran late last night!!!.. and they only had around 46 cars!!!.. As for the powers to be yes we know it is your son.. so wiseowl.. if you are going to bag one track why not them all.. as did you bring up how hawkes bay ran late since you was there.. or any other meeting you have attened.. plus for 20 bucks i would say it was all value and gave drivers time to fix there cars instead of been rushed. as Wellington do a great job on and off the track and when away we dont have what palmerston has and never will.. Pointing the finger at other tracks and rolling excuses out faster than the next race seems to be the only input anyone from Te Marua can offer up till know. Not only has The Watcher supported the party line,hes now kindly thrown Tims role at SNZ into the mix as a retort,why i dont know,but par for the course i spose when dealing with the mediocrity loving "loyal" fans. |
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Post by thewatcher on Jan 26, 2009 16:38:05 GMT 12
wiseowl stated he spoke to the powers about somethings and I was just pointing out yes as in his son..
that is all..no bad remarks about Tim at all..
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Post by Admin on Jan 26, 2009 17:03:12 GMT 12
Gee , settle down guys .
Is Wellington a family speedway?.
Answer = I guess it must be because I saw lots of family groups there .
Sure , they ran late on night one and with a bit more urgency they could have been over with an hour earlier but I really didn't hear anyone moaning too much and was surprised that so many stayed 'til the end .
Night two was worse in my opinion , late starting and too much mucking about . Eventually the dust got to me and I had to leave after heat 2 .
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Post by mickeymouse on Jan 26, 2009 17:21:44 GMT 12
If this is such a regular problem when running big events at TM why not plan for it ans START earlier? And just like everybody else thats bagging Te Marua on this thread you can't provide a solution, except look at the other tracks, they all at some stage run over the 10pm mark and if they don't it's probably because they've cut races out of the program. I've asked previously if someone could tell me how long it took to get through night one of the 2008 Stockcar champs at Stratford last year, then we can compare apples with apples and see if this is a Te Marua problem or a nationwide problem with events of this size and maybe qualifing nights do need an earlier start time, coz the only problem I could see was 160 odd stockcars and 18 races to get through and as the night went on the action increased in proportion to the delays, the hits got bigger, the red lights came on more, more damage, more tow jobs, gate repairs, the list goes on. At the end of the day or night in this case 20 bucks for 5 hours action was exceptional value, even if you chose to leave at 10pm and get the kids home, 20 bucks was still good value and like macgor, I didn't see or hear anybody complaining. |
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Post by stockmad on Jan 26, 2009 17:29:45 GMT 12
i think it was a really well run meeting congrats to welly
and for the dust its part of speedway Mr macgor ;D
and with time delays the drivers were called up to dummy grid all the time not welly fault if the drivers r slow getting there but in the end good meeting and thanks to the drivers for putting on sum good hard racing
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to brian mcphee and commitee i salute you!!!! 
