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Post by petero on Feb 1, 2009 12:58:11 GMT 12
Right, demo derby time.
what would your target audience be ?
plenty of the teenagers turn up.
as does families in their droves who often only come to such nights.
As with any track/ demo derby, it seems to pack them in.
was the demo derby the feature event - Solo's and sidecars were, hence the demo derby as well I guess. Pretty full house.
So why would you not run your demo derby to a full house, rather than start it after 11pm when many families and others have had enough and gone home already.
You really have to wonder sometimes !!
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Post by FantomFan on Feb 1, 2009 13:14:34 GMT 12
It must be last race as per SNZ policy.
What happened to hold up the rest of the meeting?
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Post by Wiseowl on Feb 1, 2009 13:56:28 GMT 12
Here we go again.... Am I guessing you are talking about HB maybe ..........Why did the Demo derby have to start AFTER 11.00pm..... Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....  Doesn't anybody learn |
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Post by modsprintsnz on Feb 1, 2009 14:09:22 GMT 12
I often ask myself - "is it time for the demo derby to get the heave-ho from speedway?" Derbies often seem to be tagged with the "bogan" title or bring that culture into the realms of speedway, which in my opinion is something that speedway in New Zealand 'needs' to leave behind as it tries to move into a more mainstream and attractive sport. Why do we continue to run events that undermine what the sport is trying the achieve as far as professionalism? Unfortunately they are a very popular attraction for most people and seem destined to stay within most season calendars throughout the country for that very reason - But then hey my opinions are often heavily slammed (especially by certain users) on this board.  Sdemon |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 1, 2009 14:45:27 GMT 12
SD it wasnt the demo derby that was the hold up it was the soslo and sidecar bike champs,the majority of the crowd came to see the demo derby as they always do to say they are past their use by date is the most ridiculous statement you have posted,the derbys are still the biggest crowd puller all over the country you sd are so out of touch
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Post by MENTL1 on Feb 1, 2009 15:15:28 GMT 12
I thought it was a great night of racing weather it was late or not...
It wasnt for the lack of trying as the bikes started racing at 2pm!!! ;D I sure as hell got more than my moneys worth.
In my eyes the meeting wasnt slow it was just long you get that some times aye ;D
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Post by gwatty on Feb 1, 2009 15:22:03 GMT 12
2-11pm, 9 hrs worth ??
went to ruapuna last night (first time this year as no WFG on).
racing started at 7pm, was finished at about 10.15pm... (that was after the fireworks).
it looked as though we would be all finished before the 9.30 pm fireworks timeslot (next to airport), so to have to re-run the midget feature after 8 lap[s because of fireworks on the track (car on fire) worked out well..excellent nights racing, with a few upside done also..keeps the kids happy...
well done ruapuna, thanks for a great night !
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Post by shorty on Feb 1, 2009 15:54:46 GMT 12
Everyone knew it was going to be a late night, there was 40 odd races roughly I guess. If you don't wanna miss your bed time then don't go it's pretty darn simple..  |
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Post by pallmall on Feb 1, 2009 15:59:15 GMT 12
I often ask myself - "is it time for the demo derby to get the heave-ho from speedway?" Derbies often seem to be tagged with the "bogan" title or bring that culture into the realms of speedway, which in my opinion is something that speedway in New Zealand 'needs' to leave behind as it tries to move into a more mainstream and attractive sport. Why do we continue to run events that undermine what the sport is trying the achieve as far as professionalism? Unfortunately they are a very popular attraction for most people and seem destined to stay within most season calendars throughout the country for that very reason - But then hey my opinions are often heavily slammed (especially by certain users) on this board. Sdemon I totally agree.  Unfortunately for some of our tracks that have run out of promotional ideas the Derby is the income source that keeps the season going. And of course a big income source for SNZ with the Day Licence fee. They don't generally get the Derby fans coming back to a normal speedway meeting either. Perhaps tracks should be allowed to run Derbies and Smashfest type of events away from the normal speedway meeting to generate income. |
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Post by modsprintsnz on Feb 1, 2009 16:04:35 GMT 12
SD it wasnt the demo derby that was the hold up it was the soslo and sidecar bike champs,the majority of the crowd came to see the demo derby as they always do to say they are past their use by date is the most ridiculous statement you have posted,the derbys are still the biggest crowd puller all over the country you sd are so out of touch oh! I thought you were the biggest crowd puller over the country! ;D I suggest you GO READ THE POST and not just look at the name attached to it (man there's people on here who just comment as soon as they see who has posted BEFORE reading what is said properly) Knew you would be the first to comment too!  Sdemon |
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Post by jayrea on Feb 1, 2009 16:27:36 GMT 12
Yes I thought it ran a little late BUT thats cos I needed to get back to Gis... 4.30 Home make for a long day ... But THANK YOU MEEANEE ... A big thank you to the team and supporters of ZM MEEANEE SPEEDWAY for allowing me to run my raffle for the MIGHT HONDA CITY The winner BECCA PLUMBER thoroughly enjoyed herself and will return for more derbys in the future .. ;D I hope to return on April 25th with another one for you all to have another go .. Thank you everyone ... Jason Soho Racing Sidechair 24g |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 1, 2009 16:32:35 GMT 12
SD it wasnt the demo derby that was the hold up it was the soslo and sidecar bike champs,the majority of the crowd came to see the demo derby as they always do to say they are past their use by date is the most ridiculous statement you have posted,the derbys are still the biggest crowd puller all over the country you sd are so out of touch oh! I thought you were the biggest crowd puller over the country! ;D I suggest you GO READ THE POST and not just look at the name attached to it (man there's people on here who just comment as soon as they see who has posted BEFORE reading what is said properly) Knew you would be the first to comment too! Sdemon I often ask myself - "is it time for the demo derby to get the heave-ho from speedway?" thats the heading on your post...says it all open wheel man just to add to my post the main priority was keeping the track right for the sidecars as well,and also a report on Aarron Johnstone 6B that got drilled by 84B (not mick Mack Driving) stockcars, Aarron is in hospital with a broken ankle and chest pains ,hears hoping the chest pains are not serious |
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Post by handbag on Feb 1, 2009 16:40:05 GMT 12
Marty how were the bike's holding up the meeting solo's and sidecar's were both running for championship's the sidecar's as per the SCB rule book |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 1, 2009 16:44:46 GMT 12
ddint mean they were holding up the meeting as such, was meaning they were the main attraction which meant keeping the track right especially for the sidecars which i think was achieved,Saloons were there to wheel pacjk the water on the pole line for the sidecars but they made a mistake in letting the saloons have a race which ended up in over half the field getting mangled lol.
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Post by modsprintsnz on Feb 1, 2009 17:05:17 GMT 12
oh! I thought you were the biggest crowd puller over the country! ;D I suggest you GO READ THE POST and not just look at the name attached to it (man there's people on here who just comment as soon as they see who has posted BEFORE reading what is said properly) Knew you would be the first to comment too! Sdemon I often ask myself - "is it time for the demo derby to get the heave-ho from speedway?" thats the heading on your post...says it all open wheel man You sir Marty, have a stigma about open-wheel classes, I have travelled many miles to watch ALL forms of speedway over the years, oh and even sponsored your oh-SO-successful trip to Nelson a few years back  Unfortunately my preference for open wheelers doesnt sit well with you, and you seem keen to make your feelings known about that - something that just adds to a reason NOT to follow those other classes as much as I used to! Madmarty good for New Zealand speedway - I think not! Way off topic here now....... Sdemon |
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Post by stomper39 on Feb 1, 2009 17:18:39 GMT 12
i always thought everyone loved a good old derby 1 would think sdemon just havin a bad day and lookin to start a good old debate i was in a derby yesterday and it was the most fun i have had in ages you should all try it in a life time would be in my top 10 things to do before one dies
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Post by modsprintsnz on Feb 1, 2009 19:01:00 GMT 12
i always thought everyone loved a good old derby 1 would think sdemon just havin a bad day and lookin to start a good old debate i was in a derby yesterday and it was the most fun i have had in ages you should all try it in a life time would be in my top 10 things to do before one dies Hey Stomper39....nah not havin a bad day - just thought I would continue the trend on here lately about everything being past it's used by date! Seriously though, I stand by my original post. I can almost guarantee that the recent happenings at Baypark and it's coverage would have hit most homes as "a bunch of bogans" and being at a speedway meeting, guess what? Yup speedway gets a bad rap.... Do I watch derbies...well kinda...I dont find them exciting anymore and tend to get bored with them very quickly. Certainly wouldnt go to a meeting just because a derby was the main attraction.... Sdemon and now just to please Marty, I'll bugger off back to the "OPEN WHEELER" section ;D |
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Post by woodart on Feb 1, 2009 19:42:20 GMT 12
racing from 2-after 11 pm. unbeleivable. with a cash-cow derby and large family crowd on hand, what were they thinking? do meanee try to run to a timetable? |
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Post by tq59 on Feb 1, 2009 19:50:58 GMT 12
I have nothing to say about the hold up at HB or that, but I went to Waikaraka Park a couple weeks ago when they held there demo derby, I felt it brings down the professionalism of Speedway.
We want it to be looked at like a premier motorsport in NZ, not a bogan infuzed craze.
So I dont think a SNZ track should have them, build a farmers track for them.
so I agree with you SD.
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Post by steeldog on Feb 1, 2009 19:57:02 GMT 12
Here's a photo i took at our last demo derby  and there seemed to be plenty of families around. |
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Unfortunately my preference for open wheelers doesnt sit well with you, and you seem keen to make your feelings known about that - something that just adds to a reason NOT to follow those other classes as much as I used to! Madmarty good for New Zealand speedway - I think not! 
