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Post by nzf2stocks. on Feb 3, 2009 16:24:49 GMT 12
Not having a dig at Dreves, but Waikaraka needs to get out of the "its only a club day" mentality and start running the Sunday meetings in a professional manner. The racing on show can be as good as a good Saturday night and the more family oriented timing is great for those whose family commitments rule out night meetings. Maybee charge $8 for a family, and fill the banks with family's having a picnic with entertainment laid on.
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Post by rebel1 on Feb 3, 2009 17:21:35 GMT 12
I agree. The club day idea has merit as shown by visiting cars from 2ks and Huntly but I believe in working in with other tracks ( particularly 2ks and Huntly and maybe even Western Springs ) some very good fields could be on offer. The last two have lent themselves to "picnic days" with the nice sunny weather.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 3, 2009 17:26:15 GMT 12
Well I've learned something from this, and that's the Clerk of the Course is in charge of commentators.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 22:39:10 GMT 12
Exactly Barry! whats the clerk of the course got to do with it?
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Post by Hooncorp on Feb 3, 2009 22:48:37 GMT 12
These days are brilliant for Mum and Dad first timers. They and the kids could be your new members/drivers or just hardcore supporters. Do NOT underestimate them !!
Come check out the facilities at both Waiuku and Meremere dirt tracks. All built and very impressive from these passionate and un-assuming people.
My thoughts, Im not having a dig at Dreves, I like him and he knows that. But the lights were turned out on the audience early, and it shouldn't have been. What if it was an awesome days racing with a huge crowd when the phone rang? Should have made no difference.
Hooncorp.
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Post by eddiek on Feb 4, 2009 0:03:07 GMT 12
Yeah yeah yeah Marty I think most of us agree with you on that one, but please give it a rest, before every dam thread on the board gets locked!
Regarding the topic... sorry dreves but I do think you owed your 150 people more than just silence.
Whether theres 150 people or 15000 in the crowd, they rely on the commentators to make everything that much more interesting.
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Post by jamo91 on Feb 4, 2009 5:19:35 GMT 12
Yeah yeah yeah Marty I think most of us agree with you on that one, but please give it a rest, before every dam thread on the board gets locked! Regarding the topic... sorry dreves but I do think you owed your 150 people more than just silence. Whether theres 150 people or 15000 in the crowd, they rely on the commentators to make everything that much more interesting. John Duffy? . . . . . . . Interesting?,  ;D ;D |
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Post by porry41 on Feb 4, 2009 6:37:24 GMT 12
advertising land agents as well  tui |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 4, 2009 8:00:12 GMT 12
yes well i mentioned something about advertising on this thread and now its deleted so much for free speech and a forum my posts several are now getting deleted??
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Post by Admin on Feb 4, 2009 9:10:47 GMT 12
yes well i mentioned something about advertising on this thread and now its deleted so much for free speech and a forum my posts several are now getting deleted?? I think we heard you the first time Marty , the repetition is just plain annoying and probably breaks the spamming terms of use . |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 4, 2009 9:46:50 GMT 12
Oh I see its going to be a war? MadMarty v Dads army? lol ok I get the hint and will humbly slink of to the dark shadows, I think I made my point,just wanted to make sure ;D
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Post by Action-Man on Feb 5, 2009 8:22:00 GMT 12
Not having a dig at Dreves, but Waikaraka needs to get out of the "its only a club day" mentality and start running the Sunday meetings in a professional manner. The racing on show can be as good as a good Saturday night and the more family oriented timing is great for those whose family commitments rule out night meetings. Maybee charge $8 for a family, and fill the banks with family's having a picnic with entertainment laid on. Well said, Couldn't agree more.. create some atmoshphere and encourage familys into the place, inform them of what is what with the cars etc & push the next big meeting. Oh and advertise it's on, and what it costs to get in etc. |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 5, 2009 9:52:37 GMT 12
Not having a dig at Dreves, but Waikaraka needs to get out of the "its only a club day" mentality and start running the Sunday meetings in a professional manner. The racing on show can be as good as a good Saturday night and the more family oriented timing is great for those whose family commitments rule out night meetings I haven't been to a Waikaraka club day, but have been to one at Rotorua. Everything is run pretty much as per a normal night, other that Paul Hickey usually does the announcing on his own instead of with a team of 2, 3 or even 4 as for the really big events. I helped out the night I went down, we grabbed a few drivers out of the pits for interviews, which can be much longer and more relaxed than normal due to less happening and less time constraints. It doesn't always have to be exciting, so long as it's informative. I don't think a club meeting really requires more than one person on the mic, but it does require at least one. Promotions that continuously look after their fans will be rewarded, those that don't treat them so well will continue to struggle....... |
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2009 11:36:40 GMT 12
The fans that turn up to watch on a Sunday are speedway's bread and butter . Best value them or else you might find you don't have a speedway anymore.
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Post by grant on Feb 6, 2009 10:34:18 GMT 12
What?? you just got up and left?? that really is poor. But then leadership comes from the top, if the promoter cant stay for his own show why should the help stay. very unprofessional. The promoter was at Rosebank Road watching the bikes, by all accounts the meeting at WP ran noticeably smoother in his absence. Now we just need to find how much they will charge us to keep him. ;D In Dreaves defence . . . . . . he's a real estate agent and he left to sell a house. I havent asked him, but one might think he might of stayed if it was the dirt cup or the teams event. Who cares what happens on a club day? Hardly surprising that the great promoter wasn't there, after all why should he? Its only a club day , as he says. The pitiful attendance by the public says it all, they wont be there without promotion of the day regardless of how many cars are there or how intense the racing is, the action, the excitement, well its OK for the drivers but does nothing to get the public there. If he had any sense of what the public want then the public would know it was on. How do they find out? they don't!!!!!!!! Its bad enough that it is almost impossible to find out if there is racing on a regular basis. The grassroots supporters even find it difficult to work out and go to other tracks now. Its time the promoter pulled his finger out of where he's got it and his head out of the clouds and got down to running things as they should be because the only place he's running it now is down the road. We need someone like Arron in there as promoter as at least he is always pushing the few good points about meetings and tries very hard to be positive and enthusiastic about it. And before the usual flow of borax is directed at me, I DON'T have an axe to grind about W/P and I DON'T care what anyone has to say about me so if it gets personal say it to my face. i do care about the prospect of racing at w/p being run into the ground by an incompetent promoter, and that is exactly what we have. |
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Post by Devilracer on Feb 6, 2009 15:37:15 GMT 12
Grant, i can loan you an axe if you want to grind it ;D I have ground enough for that place.  |
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Post by grant on Feb 6, 2009 16:00:07 GMT 12
Grant, i can loan you an axe if you want to grind it ;D I have ground enough for that place. Nah mate , i dont need to grind anything, they just need to wake up and see what is happening under the promoters direction. Get rid of him, get back to regular saturday night action and promote that to the public. look at the business model that is successful at nearly every other track in the country, realise that they are all successful and follow it. Surely its not that hard |
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Post by jamo91 on Feb 6, 2009 16:19:14 GMT 12
Grant, i can loan you an axe if you want to grind it ;D I have ground enough for that place. Nah mate , i dont need to grind anything, they just need to wake up and see what is happening under the promoters direction. Get rid of him, get back to regular saturday night action and promote that to the public. look at the business model that is successful at nearly every other track in the country, realise that they are all successful and follow it. Surely its not that hard Like most of my posts, this post is directed at the Idiot that calls him self the promoter and not the WP club or venue. Sometimes the readers of this forum need to see it that way. At the end of the day it is the incompetance of this clown and his promotion that will send this club down, it dosent matter what anyone thinks the club is in dire straights and still sinking, hell the committee have enough trouble even to sit together for a meeting every monday, let alone put up a united front to move WP in the direction it needs to go. A little to often this forum is used to take a stab at WP and their management but it is mainly done out of frustration, the average member at WP couldnt care less what happens at the top. . . . . as long as they are still getting laps in, but what they dont realise is the laps are going to dry up fast if a plan is not put in place to rescue the place. |
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Post by DTM1 on Feb 6, 2009 20:12:59 GMT 12
look at the business model that is successful at nearly every other track in the country, realise that they are all successful and follow it. Surely its not that hard You could count the tracks that operate with a business model that (A) is sound (B) is realistic (C) is successful in delivery,on one hand and with a finger going spare. Its fantasy and nothing more,to believe the sport is delivering on a National scale,anything other than a watered down mediocre product and one that ultimately,just isnt viable looking forward. What makes the future look even worse in terms of viability,is the ease with which people provide and accept excuses,when a track fails to deliver. Even more worrying,is the regularity with which club members and office holders are not only accepting of their tracks failure to deliver,but they're also the ones leading the "dont come back" cheer squads when ever disatisfaction is voiced. While it may seem outrageous to some,i personally wouldnt care if half the tracks in the country went belly up,as the end result would be an end to dilution and a lift in quality. |
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Post by jamo91 on Feb 6, 2009 23:25:37 GMT 12
Even more worrying,is the regularity with which club members and office holders are not only accepting of their tracks failure to deliver,but they're also the ones leading the "dont come back" cheer squads when ever disatisfaction is voiced. Haha, funny you should mention the don't come back squad. One of the commitee members was telling me about how I will be served with a trespass notice next time I can be bothered attending the park . . . . . . . its bad enough that I have to take my lawyer every time I go to court, now I have to take her racing as well ;D ;D |
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