The all new 4 Cylinder Holden Commodore (Read 1,607 times)

[rotanut]

For all you Holden lovers see the attached thread about the new 4 cylinder turbo charged commodore to possibly be released early next year.

www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=52635

The Ford Falcon is dong the same deal, also keeping the current range of engines with the 4 cyl as a option.

cheers

[knownotmuch]

I had a 4 cylinder Commodore about 25 years ago. 1990cc it wasn't to bad for a gutless wonder, engine was still going OK when the body started falling to bits, 330,000kms on the clock and nothing done except cam chain.

[nzf2stocks.]

Holden tried this sort of thing in the mid 70's with the Roadmaster, a HZ sedan with a rotary motor. Built about 25 cars then binned the idea. Good job too, I drove one of the pre-production cars and it stopped with a 10mph headwind.

[nogrip-31gm]

whales werent designed for roads....

so for holden will it be a euro opel/vw kind of deal like the astras?? wheres the vomit smilie?

[Kirkie Jnr]

HAHAHA I TOLD YOU ALL!!! somewhere in a similar post introducing the new Ford Lol

[banaro]

wtf? lol only milk and icecream should come in 2 lts lol

[shawry]

Jul 27, 2009 21:56:51 GMT 12 Kirkie Jnr said:

HAHAHA I TOLD YOU ALL!!! somewhere in a similar post introducing the new Ford Lol

BUT!!!

Have ford every produced a 4cyl falcon before?

Holden have produced 4cyl comodore in the past, big mistake, cant think why they would do it again but meh, will still smoke the 4cyl falcons

shawry

[nogrip-31gm]

wasnt the commy 4cyl from an opel???
so really holden dont know how to build their "own" 4cyls..

ford have been building great 4cyls for years..
cosworths spring to mind???

[nzf2stocks.]

Only the torana's and the first of the commodors had the opel, then holden built their own by lopping two cyllenders off the 202. Not a bad motor, let down by a crap carby.

[escort2]

dongfeng make four cylinder cars. perhaps the holdens will run chinese power?

[dirtracer13w]

bring on the 4cyl supercar series holden commodore vs ford falcon in 4cyl eco cars. now that'll be funny to watch ;D ;D

[eloc1]

Jul 27, 2009 20:11:16 GMT 12 nzf2stocks. said:

Holden tried this sort of thing in the mid 70's with the Roadmaster, a HZ sedan with a rotary motor. Built about 25 cars then binned the idea. Good job too, I drove one of the pre-production cars and it stopped with a 10mph headwind.

Holden never built the Roadpacer, it was Mazda in Japan who built them. They built 840 Roadpacer's between 1975 and 1977. It was based on the Australian Holden Premier. Premiers were shipped to Japan without engines, and Mazda fitted a 1.3 L 13B Wankel engine into the bay, and was rebadge with Mazda emblems. Although the engine produced 135 hp (100 kW) and 101 ft.lbf (138 Nm) of torque, the Roadpacer weighed 3,500 lb (1,575 kg).
While the 13B produced more power than the 6 cylinder engine fitted to the car as a Holden, the lack of torque meant performance was restrained with a 103 mph (166 km/h) top speed, poor acceleration and terrible fuel consumption. Contemporary reports suggest 9 mpg (26 L per 100 km).

[streety6p]

This is an email i got from fordaustralia.com,These are the things that Ford Australia are doing in 2011

""Ford will abandon plans to build the small car Focus in Australia and instead produce a four-cylinder version of its existing Falcon and Territory range.

An announcement from the company is expected later this morning.

But a source confirmed the announcement would centre on the introduction of new environmentally friendly engine technology for the Falcon and its locally built offroader, the Territory.

It is believed today's announcement will include a $230 million investment in new petrol, LPG and diesel engines for the Falcon and Territory - and that no jobs will be lost at the Geelong and Broadmeadows plants.

The move away from a locally produced Focus - previously promoted as part of a global shift towards smaller, more fuel-efficient cars - is expected to come as a surprise across the industry.

It is understood that the high cost of producing the Focus in Australia, compared with lower-cost economies overseas, was a major barrier.

By 2011, the Ford and Territory range is expected to include:

* A four-cylinder, two-litre petrol ``eco-boost'' engine with greater fuel efficiency and lower CO2 emissions.

* A two-litre liquid-injection LPG engine that will be promoted as the most advanced LPG engine in the country.

* A 2.7 litre V6 diesel engine - again with lower emissions and higher fuel efficiency.

Ford had planned to build the Focus small car in Australia from 2011, but is believed to have canned the project in favour of building a new turbo-charged four-cylinder engine claimed to deliver six-cylinder performance with the fuel consumption and emissions of a small car.

The Eco-boost engine has been developed by its US parent and Ford global product boss Derek Kuzak recently told the media the company planned to have a four-cylinder engine in every car in its range.

Ford planned to build 40,000 Focuses a year, with 15,000 earmarked for export.

Senator Kim Carr, Federal Minister for Innovation, Industry Science and Research, will attend the announcement at Ford's Broadmeadows headquarters.

The new engine program is likely to receive funding under the Government's Green Car Innovation Fund, which has already spawned similar programs from Holden and Toyota.

Holden has received $149 million in funding to develop a new small car, the Cruze, at its Elizabeth Plant in South Australia from 2010, while early next year Toyota will begin selling a hybrid version of its locally built Camry sedan with $30 million funding.

The Ford source said the new engine program would not affect the company's existing six-cylinder engine operations in Geelong.

Ford had planned to close the Geelong engine plant in 2010 and import a V6 engine from the United States, but reversed the decision after receiving assistance from the Government late last year.

All three local manufacturers are reshaping their operations in an attempt to come to terms with the shift away from locally-produced large family cars to offroaders and small, fuel efficient vehicles.

According to industry sources, Ford is expected to announce that the production of the three new engines will mean that no jobs will be lost.

It is understood that Ford will continue to source the Focus from overseas locations.

An announcement from the company is expected in the next few hours.""

So there we have it Ford fans enjoy