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Post by BarryB on Nov 9, 2009 13:28:16 GMT 12
.........or are we seeing even more wingeing and moaning on the Discussion Board, before the season really even kicks into life, than ever before?
What gets me is that spectators at some of the venues/promotions getting bagged, those housing some of our best facilities, best drivers, best action and best car numbers, just don't seem to realize how lucky they are. Palmerston North, Western Springs, Baypark have all copped some flack this summer - or what we've seen of it to date.
Some are perennial favourites to cop a shellacking of course, and it's good to see Waikaraka Park in the "good books" to date, but sometimes I wonder whether we (and I include myself in that) expect just a little bit too much at times. We have a darn good sport, easily accessible with tracks all over the country, and well priced when compared with other forms of entertainment. What more do we want?
And considering that early season meetings rarely meet the expectations of true fans, often due to low car counts and a perceived lack of action, isn't it a little early to be rolling out the "I'm never going back there" line before the fireworks have even settled?
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Post by Ricoshea on Nov 9, 2009 13:37:37 GMT 12
well priced when compared with other forms of entertainment. most tracks are reporting good spectator numbers at this stage, i am wondering if the current economic situation has driven extra spectators to tracks, seeking better value for $ |
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2009 14:05:42 GMT 12
It's pretty much the same every year Barry , often the reality doesn't match up to the expectation/anitipation .
Sometimes of course some tracks deserve what they get .
Of those tracks you mention , with the exception of one perhaps, I think there are many more positive posts than negative on the board.
It's also very easy to pick up on negatives if you are involved with a track and sometimes natural reaction totally overrules .
I turned down a ride to Western Springs on Saturday , I'm kind of glad I did now because I would have gone with high expectations with regards the Midget racing and would have been gutted to be served small fields of them so yep I would have been moaning too.
On the other hand I've seen enough positives about Baypark that I am going there next Saturday and earlier today I was scouring through my calendar trying to find a date i could utilise to sneak down to Palmy . All the positive posts about the action have me yearning for a look .
Personally I think it's all about perception , frame of mind , associations etc.
....and sometimes those with a bee in their bonnet about something just set out to cause upsets .
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Post by xman on Nov 9, 2009 14:08:11 GMT 12
You're right Barry. Noticed it too. Maybe it's just the ole green-eyed monster. Or peeps with an agenda. From all i've heard, things have got off to a great start all over the country, so just ignore the knockers. We are so lucky , we dont even know it half the time.
ps Mr Macgor....you missed a very good night at the Springs, despite what some have written.
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Post by Jamo on Nov 9, 2009 14:08:36 GMT 12
well priced when compared with other forms of entertainment. most tracks are reporting good spectator numbers at this stage, i am wondering if the current economic situation has driven extra spectators to tracks, seeking better value for $ Wouldn't get to excited yet! main reason for big crowds has been the tie in with fireworks. Lets see what happens at these tracks in the next few weeks before getting to carried away. |
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2009 14:15:57 GMT 12
Bit off topic this but in response to Jamo's post .
I've been wondering if speedway is to the entertainment industry something similar to the fast food joints and the restaurant industry.
They reckon McDonald's & Co are doing well in the recession because people who used to dine at the ritzy places are now slumming it .
Perhaps those that used to lash out on Saturday nights are finding it cheaper to eat hot-dogs and breathe dust for their night out.
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Post by Ricoshea on Nov 9, 2009 14:22:56 GMT 12
not too excited, one meeting does not constitute a season,
just wondering out loud.
there can be little doubt that the standard ( across the country ) of car/package presentation continues to improve, just have a look at the photos and videos posted in the last week.
a little early to sit in judgement on tracks and promotions, but again the pictures say a lot of words about the work and effort in trying to present and action these venues.
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Post by tiroto on Nov 9, 2009 14:37:06 GMT 12
Agree Barry - I am amazed at the negativity towards venues such as Palmerston North and Bay Park.
I remember not so long ago that Rotorua took a battering from a certain poster on Macgors. I certainly didn't let up in challenging the behaviour on this forum but that posters reaction showed that it was incestuous and not a constructive speedway related issue. Those that use this forum to air their personal baggage are the dangerous ones and should be shut down straight away.
I'm glad that there is a lot more accountability from moderators to posts that appear to be personal.
On the other hand I also think people should try and recognise the boundary between light hearted bantering from people like Mad Marty ;D and other damaging postings.
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2009 14:43:21 GMT 12
Well here is the challenge .
Point me to all the negative posts about Palmy in the last 14 days.
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Post by mike004 on Nov 9, 2009 14:45:36 GMT 12
Maybe a bit one-eyed but what Rotorua did last Friday night was great. Sure the car numbers were down, but the entertainment factor was right up there ie Kyle in the ministock, and Kyle, Stan and Westbury the way they started the fireworks. Prob on a low note was the soundsystem (speakers) but Im sure when you hit the mic Barry we should here you loud and clear!! ;D
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Post by BarryB on Nov 9, 2009 14:46:15 GMT 12
It's certainly great to read all of the reports about the fantastic early crowd numbers around the country - let's hope that continues all summer long.
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2009 14:52:08 GMT 12
Yes Mike , it was a well rounded night of entertainment and accept the racing wasn't actually anything special But as they say it was the first night .
As for the sound system it was obviously worse some areas .
I gather there is a plan though and that reaction to a problem is what makes Rotorua great to have as a local.
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Post by BarryB on Nov 9, 2009 16:30:48 GMT 12
Prob on a low note was the soundsystem (speakers) but Im sure when you hit the mic Barry we should here you loud and clear!! ;D What are you saying?!?!?!?!?! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes, had hoped to attend the meeting, but was sadly in Wellywood for a family funeral. Glad to hear the night went well.... I'm sure if there is a problem, Sonja and Paul will soon have it sussed. |
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Nov 9, 2009 17:11:44 GMT 12
More importantly barry, sorry to hear about the loss
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Post by 2jbones on Nov 9, 2009 17:27:42 GMT 12
you shouid of seen the crowd at Nelson for the Fireworks that never happened due to the wind being to strong yeah there was also some very big crowds for this years NPC at some of the smaller centres like Palmy and The mount  |
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Post by Bulletfan on Nov 9, 2009 17:34:30 GMT 12
hay there mike004 not one eye man i work wit ha few guys that never been to stockcars and they said it was a wicked night for the whole family they love the modz and there was only 4 of them hahaha and they said they will be going back again this seasone for another look..so pointed out a few good meetings for them..... good to see the productions racing hard
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Post by percy on Nov 9, 2009 18:48:19 GMT 12
I don't think there has been an excess of negativity.
Sure the odd meeting here or there has copped a bit of criticism but even then there have been some positive comments amongst the negative. What criticism there has been has been explained.
As for Springs, Baypark and Palmy don't forget that these tracks charge $20 which is the highest in the country. I think what we've seen is that fans have higher expectations for these $20 meetings. Running Adult and Youth Ministocks or Quarter Midgets and F2 Midgets is not going to get a positive response at the prices being charged.
Overall though I think the comments on here have been positive. If you look at it track by track there has been plenty of positive about Waikaraka, Huntly, Rotorua, Napier etc and plenty of positivity surrounding the various fireworks displays around the country.
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Post by pnspeed on Nov 9, 2009 22:08:20 GMT 12
and earlier today I was scouring through my calendar trying to find a date i could utilise to sneak down to Palmy . All the positive posts about the action have me yearning for a look . Hey Macgor why don't you come down to Palmerston North on November 21st for the first round of the National Midget Series. I will save a couple of prime seats for you. We are working on a scheme to make Pickens go to the back of the field again, half way through the Feature. ;D Last year he won the race after being put to the back part way though the race. Did he drive the wheels of that Midget! An awesome drive that will have everyone back to watch him again. Not sure, at this stage, if we will run the Manawatu Superstocks Championship that night as well but a strong possibility. |
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2009 22:23:22 GMT 12
if you could weld some decent bumpers on them I'd be keen...........just kidding . I actually think the racing will be awesome . Very tempting but Stockcar teams versus Midgets is there really a choice?.....and then there are those darn team numbers to consider...decisions...decisions....decisions ....Superstock champs you say..............Think I'd better have a sleep on it    . |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Nov 10, 2009 8:03:09 GMT 12
if you could weld some decent bumpers on them I'd be keen...........just kidding . I actually think the racing will be awesome . Very tempting but Stockcar teams versus Midgets is there really a choice?.....and then there are those darn team numbers to consider...decisions...decisions....decisions ....Superstock champs you say..............Think I'd better have a sleep on it . Dont forget to wake up before the 21st LOL |
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